Russ Brandon - Leaving Role as President of Bills & Sabres due to workplace behavior and allegations of personal misconduct

[SoTier]

13 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

Please explain how you drew that conclusion from my post.

 

Very simply: if you had, you wouldn't be shoveling the misogynistic manure you've been shoveling in this thread.

[Rob's House]

1 minute ago, SoTier said:

 

Very simply: if you had, you wouldn't be shoveling the misogynistic manure you've been shoveling in this thread.

I was hoping you'd at least attempt to identify the "mysogynistic manure" you're speaking of, by I didn't actually expect a rational explanation. 

 

I guess the takeaway is unless you're willing to lump every guy who tries to get laid in with those who actually engage in sexual coercion you're a "mysogynist" who supports said coercion. Good to know.

[BadLandsMeanie]

Don't forget, Russ's brother is still an attorney for the team.

 

Now the Pegulas will learn a bit late in life, why that was such a bad idea. Very awkward.

 

 

[ddaryl]

WHOA !

 

well look who got caught

[Rockpile233]

I’m not interested in telling people how to live, but if you’re pursuing sex at work or within the company you leave your job at risk. I would even imagine there is probably language in their employee COC on this very matter.

 

I certainly doubt it was worth it at his pay. 

 

Soap box lectures on the stigmatization of male sexuality is irrelevant. Private businesses have rules to follow. Break them and you may lose your job. 

Edited May 2, 2018 by Rockpile233

[May Day 10]

1 minute ago, Rockpile233 said:

I’m not interested in telling people how to live, but if you’re pursuing sex at work or within the company you leave your job at risk. I would even imagine there is probably language in their employee COC on this very matter.

 

I certainly doubt it was worth it at his pay. 

 

Nope... not worth it.

 

I can say that this has been going on to some degree since the early 00's and when he was Director of Marketing.  Having gone unchecked, I could see it getting pretty bad while he ascended all the way to proxy-owner.  When new bosses were in the building, he still couldn't help himself.  

 

We arent sure what was exactly done, but the Pegulas' trust seems to have been violated.  It has to go a lot deeper than that judging by the 'tone' of the Pegulas' statement as well as the sudden 'voluntary' dismissal of the most senior exec.  

 

They should have knew better and cleaned house when they bought the team.  

[Coach Tuesday]

22 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

Unfortunately, it is the price. As Thomas Jefferson said, "...a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing...," and what you are seeing is a rebellion against inequities that have existed for a long, long time. I hate to see anyone unjustly treated as a result; however, I do understand the reasons behind what we are seeing.  

 

Yup.  Decades of our historical sins seem to be coming home to roost at this moment.  I can understand why certain folks feel like they're caught in the teeth of something they didn't cause, that they're being punished for the crimes of previous generations - where all of a sudden, the tables are tilted towards women and minorities at the expense of the white working class male, and it feels fundamentally unfair, and you have certain factions of the Left cheering all of it on, and it could push one to believe that society has conspired against them... but I believe we'll look back some day and view this era as an important social re-calibration.

[billsfan1959]

8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Yup.  Decades of our historical sins seem to be coming home to roost at this moment.  I can understand why certain folks feel like they're caught in the teeth of something they didn't cause, that they're being punished for the crimes of previous generations - where all of a sudden, the tables are tilted towards women and minorities at the expense of the white working class male, and it feels fundamentally unfair, and you have certain factions of the Left cheering all of it on, and it could push one to believe that society has conspired against them... but I believe we'll look back some day and view this era as an important social re-calibration.

The continuing, and sometimes painful, evolution of the collective consciousness

[FeelingOnYouboty]

Great news lol

[teef]

14 hours ago, thunderingsquid said:

Do you know from experience? ?

i have dated people i've worked with in the past.  it was a while back, and there was a different attitude towards it, but not one seemed to care.  i was even a superior to both, (i couldn't hire or fire them though).  

 

now that i have my own office, i would never, ever get involved with it.  my employees are literally all women, and i wouldn't want them in any way, shape or form to fell uncomfortable, and ultimately disrupt the good thing we have going on here.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

10 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

They should have knew better and cleaned house when they bought the team.  

 

That's easy to say from hindsight, but as new owners and new to the business it's not necessarily a mistake to take some time and feel your way, get to know all the personalities in the building.

 

 

[stuvian]

as a union steward I have represented  both men and women accused of such transgressions. I can tell that there is nothing in the world of romance or sex that can compensate you sufficiently for the hell your life will become

[JinxedBill1]

If these allegations prove true then good riddance.  

 

For those of you you on the other topic, all I have to say is take the red pill.  I love woman but the over correction of male sexuality and masculinity is getting old. MGTOW my friends.

 

[Big Turk]

6 hours ago, USABuffaloFan said:

NO

No Class!

No Class!

 

Aww...did you get offended ❄? Have to call into work today because you laid in bed and cried yourself to sleep last night with your teddy bear clutched tightly to your chest?

[Greybeard]

14 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It's not just your opinion, John, it's standard HR guidance given to every supervisor in every major company, and grounds for termination in most, because of the legal concept that free consent is clouded by an assymetrical power relationship.  I had to sit through hours of training on this stuff when I started supervising folks.

      I am rather amazed at how many people aren't getting this.   In any situation where an employee in a relationship can say they had to do it to keep their job, it puts a company at risk.  To avoid the risk, company's simply make it a policy for dismissal.

      Also, I think some here don't really understand what "at will" employer really means with regards to job security.

[stevewin]

15 hours ago, fridge said:

 

Okay okay okay... the infidelity/workplace misconduct, fine. I'm sorry to hear that, and I'm glad he's gone.

 

But...is anyone else super excited to find out more about the other "job-related issues that were uncovered"? What wild speculation should we run with there? Meddling with the franchises beyond the scope of marketing? Internal threats? Financial shadiness? General snake-like behavior?

He lost everything on a scheme to con people on a message board so he could buy a parking garage east of Buffalo.

[colin]

lol, the hall monitors in this thread crack me up.

 

kim herself slept her way to the top, and is essentially a billionaire for it, and is now running the team.  LOL just LOL at the balance of power garbage, she knew what she was doing the whole way, and so did the woman who beane was rooting.

[billsfan1959]

1 minute ago, colin said:

lol, the hall monitors in this thread crack me up.

 

kim herself slept her way to the top, and is essentially a billionaire for it, and is now running the team.  LOL just LOL at the balance of power garbage, she knew what she was doing the whole way, and so did the woman who beane was rooting.

[gonzo1105]

3 minutes ago, colin said:

lol, the hall monitors in this thread crack me up.

 

kim herself slept her way to the top, and is essentially a billionaire for it, and is now running the team.  LOL just LOL at the balance of power garbage, she knew what she was doing the whole way, and so did the woman who beane was rooting.

 

He's not wrong.

[colin]

1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

haha, were you born in 59?  pretty sick gif boomer bills fan!  

 

shinning up your good buy badge while you sit down to pee.

[billsfan1959]

1 minute ago, colin said:

 

haha, were you born in 59?  pretty sick gif boomer bills fan!  

 

shinning up your good buy badge while you sit down to pee.

Haha!  And you do realize that evolving in your views does not turn you into a mangina? 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

7 minutes ago, colin said:

lol, the hall monitors in this thread crack me up.

 

kim herself slept her way to the top, and is essentially a billionaire for it, and is now running the team.  LOL just LOL at the balance of power garbage, she knew what she was doing the whole way, and so did the woman who beane was rooting.

 

I mean... it seems like they met.  and have been together for like 25-30 years?  It's not really comparable to the president of the company sleeping with subordinates imo.

[colin]

Just now, billsfan1959 said:

Haha!  And you do realize that evolving in your views does not turn you into a mangina? 

 

so you were always a **** then (i had to say it, you set me up)?

 

i can't help but chortle at lost irony of kim glowingly recapping her being seduced, persued, and wifed up by the billion dollar boss man (was he married when they met?  that would just be too good) in a thread where male feminists have a feel good chat about how kim is totally the person to run the team, but the girl who beane got busted doing the exact same thing with is a victim due to balance of power garbage.

[Coach Tuesday]

1 minute ago, colin said:

 

so you were always a **** then (i had to say it, you set me up)?

 

i can't help but chortle at lost irony of kim glowingly recapping her being seduced, persued, and wifed up by the billion dollar boss man (was he married when they met?  that would just be too good) in a thread where male feminists have a feel good chat about how kim is totally the person to run the team, but the girl who beane got busted doing the exact same thing with is a victim due to balance of power garbage.

 

Who raised you?

[colin]

4 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

I mean... it seems like they met.  and have been together for like 25-30 years?  It's not really comparable to the president of the company sleeping with subordinates imo.

 

so if beane marries the girl it's all ok?

 

this is literally the exact same thing, but the hypocrisy is that pegula won't let people working for him do what he did.  i mean, whatever beane sucked anyhow, but crushing quality tail being what takes him down makes me have just a sliver of sympathy for him.

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Who raised you?

 

an elderly billionaire and his asian trophy wife.

 

i'm actually the pegula's secret supreme gentleman son!

[BuffaloHokie13]

1 minute ago, colin said:

so if beane marries the girl it's all ok?

 

this is literally the exact same thing, but the hypocrisy is that pegula won't let people working for him do what he did.  i mean, whatever beane sucked anyhow, but crushing quality tail being what takes him down makes me have just a sliver of sympathy for him.

Beane has nothing to do with this. Stop the slander.

[BadLandsMeanie]

8 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

I mean... it seems like they met.  and have been together for like 25-30 years?  It's not really comparable to the president of the company sleeping with subordinates imo.

It is exactly like that. Even worse because she herself hinted that he hired her because he was charmed by her. 

 

It is just that the rules were different then. It wasn't considered automatically predatory for Terrence Pegula to do that if she was agreeable as well, which she obviously was.

[colin]

slander?  i'm the only person saying at least beane went down for something cool and exciting.

 

did kim not get romanced by the most powerful person in the entire organization, and profit beyond anyone's wildest dreams for it?

[LabattBlue]

Maybe the Pegula daughters can be promoted from running their smoothie shop(funded by Mommy and Daddy), into key front office roles with the Sabres and Bills.  Can they do any worse in terms of results than Mom & Pop?

[BuffaloHokie13]

Just now, colin said:

slander?  i'm the only person saying at least beane went down for something cool and exciting.

 

did kim not get romanced by the most powerful person in the entire organization, and profit beyond anyone's wildest dreams for it?

Beane is in no way involved in this story and is still the GM for the Buffalo Bills. Please try reading and comprehending before you post again.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, colin said:

slander?  i'm the only person saying at least beane went down for something cool and exciting.

 

did kim not get romanced by the most powerful person in the entire organization, and profit beyond anyone's wildest dreams for it?

 

Beane didn't go down for anything.  That's the slander part.  Brandon is the one who was let go.

[teef]

12 minutes ago, colin said:

lol, the hall monitors in this thread crack me up.

 

kim herself slept her way to the top, and is essentially a billionaire for it, and is now running the team.  LOL just LOL at the balance of power garbage, she knew what she was doing the whole way, and so did the woman who beane was rooting.

slept her way to the top?  as far as i know, kim met terry at a restaurant, not when she was employed under him.  don't get me wrong...i don't have any problems with people meeting in the work place as long as it's within company policy, but she certainly didn't use sex to increase her status in the work place.

[colin]

lol, i got their names mixed up!

 

i honestly only knew brandon as Russ, and i still think our coach is named mcbean.

 

i blame the ongoing memes on this message board.  there is an uneven balance of power here!

[teef]

19 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

He's not wrong.

yeah.  he's very wrong.

[K-9]

3 minutes ago, colin said:

slander?  i'm the only person saying at least beane went down for something cool and exciting.

 

did kim not get romanced by the most powerful person in the entire organization, and profit beyond anyone's wildest dreams for it?

Get a grip on your Brandons. Constantly citing the wrong one makes you look like you aren’t informed and don’t know what you’re talking about. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

3 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said:

It is exactly like that. Even worse because she herself hinted that he hired her because he was charmed by her. 

 

It is just that the rules were different then. It wasn't considered automatically predatory for Terrence Pegula to do that if she was agreeable as well, which she obviously was.

 

That's all well and good... but you don't really know the nature of KP & TPs relationship (IE they could have been dating before she started), or the nature of Brandon's indiscretions (he may have just had a consensual relationship with one person, or he could have done something completely different and inappropriate).  So it's a tad of a stretch and generalization.

[colin]

Just now, teef said:

slept her way to the top?  as far as i know, kim met terry at a restaurant, not when she was employed under him.  don't get me wrong...i don't have any problems with people meeting in the work place as long as it's within company policy, but she certainly didn't use sex to increase her status in the work place.

 

i hear you, but the point is the silly idea of women being beyond reproach, victims to these evil powerful men using their status to take advantage, but also super competent go getters is clearly internally conflicted, and ignores some very obvious realities.  it's particularly funny to me when in this thread there is the story of how the current president of the bills got that position by marrying her old boss.

[teef]

1 minute ago, colin said:

 

i hear you, but the point is the silly idea of women being beyond reproach, victims to these evil powerful men using their status to take advantage, but also super competent go getters is clearly internally conflicted, and ignores some very obvious realities.  it's particularly funny to me when in this thread there is the story of how the current president of the bills got that position by marrying her old boss.

it can be a very fine line, which is why most places have just prohibited it all together.  sometimes it's the easiest way to avoid conflict.  

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, colin said:

 

i hear you, but the point is the silly idea of women being beyond reproach, victims to these evil powerful men using their status to take advantage, but also super competent go getters is clearly internally conflicted, and ignores some very obvious realities.  it's particularly funny to me when in this thread there is the story of how the current president of the bills got that position by marrying her old boss.

 

I mean - we don't even know what Brandon did.  There could be very justifiable reasons.

[eball]

7 hours ago, kota said:

The amount of glee people are having of this is truly pathetic.  

 

No, what was pathetic was Russ the GM, Russ the snake oil salesman, and Russ the promoter of Whaley and Rex.  Only last season -- when Russ was finally and rightfully moved to the sidelines -- did the culture change.  I bought into the "Russ doesn't really make football decisions" line of thinking for a good while, until he screwed this franchise over for another two years with the Rex fiasco.  Good freaking riddance.