Russ Brandon - Leaving Role as President of Bills & Sabres due to workplace behavior and allegations of personal misconduct

[Taro T]

2 hours ago, TXBILLSFAN said:

This is a great day for Buffalo

 

There is some justice to Russ' victims, yes, victims.  Make no mistake, what Russ did was sexual harassment.  The men who pull that **** deserve what they get, and, yes, justice is to be celebrated, even if it ruins his life.  He doesn't deserve our pity, his victims deserve our sympathy.

 

Secondarily, it rids these organizations of the so-called marketing genius, who self-promoted himself into football positions that led to crap decision after crap decision.  One of the most overrated executives in history, not to mention an arrogant prick.

 

And, please, can we stop the "how well respected he is in football circles" and "how he single handily saved the franchise from financial ruin" --- give me a !@#$ing break.

 

This is the same guy who was responsible for "selling" our home games to Toronto, imagine if that worked the way he wanted, we might be the Toronto Bills.  The same guy high fiving in the draft room after one of the worst draft day trades when we traded to draft Watkins.  The same guy who made sure the Pegulas "got their man", good ole Rex Ryan and his **** show.  The same who used a mid 1st round pick to draft EJ.  The same guy . . . fill in the blank, we can fill pages of his bad decisions.

 

 

 

 

 Heck, he sold a Sabres home game to the Rangers THIS season.  He TOTALLY botched the marketing for the WJC in Buffalo this past year.  Great marketing Mr Wile E. Coyote Supra Marketing Genius.

 

Very glad he's gone.

[HurlyBurly51]

50 minutes ago, Billy Zabka said:

"When confronted by Kim Pegula, the sources said, Brandon denied any such relationships, but the investigation indicated he was deceitful about that and other job-related issues that were uncovered."

 

This line caught my eye...Hopefully more news forthcoming.

 

 

 

Probably some fudged expense reports.

[Mr. ChumChums]

52 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

East Resources was a 31-well shale gas drilling outfit when it was sold.    We're not talking GM or P&G here...

 

 

But it was still a company with ~$6.5 Billion in assets - we're not talking pocket change. Sure, it didn't have the scale of GM or P&G, but do you think the sale of those assets to Royal Dutch Shell and American Energy Partners could have happened without a good investor relations program that was (likely) built by Kim? As part of her role, she would have had to deal with the complex financials and operations associated with all aspects of the business.

 

Not saying she was solely responsible for this, and that it directly translates to her ability to be President of Football ops, but I think you're underselling her role, responsibilities, and accomplishments.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

[Lurker]

2 minutes ago, Mr. ChumChums said:

But it was still a company with ~$6.5 Billion in assets - we're not talking pocket change. Sure, it didn't have the scale of GM or P&G, but do you think the sale of those assets to Royal Dutch Shell and American Energy Partners could have happened without a good investor relations program that was (likely) built by Kim? As part of her role, she would have had to deal with the complex financials and operations associated with all aspects of the business.

 

Not saying she was solely responsible for this, and that it directly translates to her ability to be President of Football ops, but I think you're underselling her role, responsibilities, and accomplishments.

 

Later in that same D&C artice:

 

"The Pegulas, now married for 22 years, have three children of their own, and for most of their marriage, Kim's primary duty was being a mother. It wasn't until the children — Jessica (21), Kelly (19) and Matthew (16) — grew and became more self-sufficient that Kim began to dabble in the business."
 

By the time Terry was ready to sell, he'd brought in Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.(a private equity fund) to deal with the Wall Street aspects.   No way Kim was qualified to handle that...

[SoTier]

4 hours ago, Nitro said:

Russ was hated and now the whipping boy is gone.  Who is next for the fans to pillory?

 

How is the guy who was in charge of the Bills since the firing of Donahoe (2006) be considered a "whipping boy"? 

 

4 hours ago, Lurker said:

 

Only a matter of time.  If there's one thing Bills fans are good at, it's finding new scapegoats...

 

Cry me river for poor Russ Brandon.  The Bills had only 2 winning seasons since Brandon took over in 2006 (2014 and 2017).   Brandon ran the show, so he's responsible for the results, which stunk.  He's not a "scapegoat" or a "whipping boy" or a victim.  He failed, so he's out.

 

3 hours ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said:

 

Yeah, because that will win SuperBowls. But as long as the women are happy, that's all that matters...

 

How close to winning a Super Bowl have the Bills come since 2006 when Brandon was given control of the team?

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said:

 

I'm not saying he is blameless, but he did a hell of a job considering who he had to work for.

 

See above.  As the man in charge of the Bills, Brandon sucked.  He should have been terminated because of the team's poor record when the Pegulas bought the team.

 

3 hours ago, Lurker said:

 

The late 1960s-early 1970s are calling you young man.  The Bills were today's Browns once upon a time...

 

 

I've been a Bills fans since the early 1960s, and no, the Bills have never been as bad for as long as they've been under Brandon's watch.  Even in the miserable days of the late 1960s and 1970s, the Bills occasionally managed to put together a winning season or 2 and even make the playoffs.  They never went 11 straight seasons (2006-2016) with only 1winning season and 0 playoff appearances.

 

Edited May 2, 2018 by SoTier

[Buffalo Barbarian]

7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Rumor is Lauren Hall was one of his conquests 

 

Who?

 

[Lurker]

26 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

 

I've been a Bills fans since the early 1960s, and no, the Bills have never been as bad for as long as they've been under Brandon's watch.  Even in the miserable days of the late 1960s and 1970s, the Bills occasionally managed to put together a winning season or 2 together and even make the playoffs.  They never went 11 straight seasons (2006-2016) with only 1 winning season and 0 playoff appearances.

 

 

In the 13-year stretch from 1967 to 1979 they made the playoffs once and won a total of 60 games--an average of 4.6 per year (0.322 win %).   In eight of those 13 years, they won 4 games or less. They won 7 or more games only four times over that period.

 

In the 17-year "drought" era, they won  a total of 112 games or 6.5 per year (0.412 win %).  In nine of those years, they had 7 or more victories.  They won 4 games or less only two times.

 

IMO, mediocre (2000-17) was a lot more palatable than bad (1967-79), and I too have been here through all that frustration...

 

 

Edited May 2, 2018 by Lurker

[kota]

The amount of glee people are having of this is truly pathetic.  

[Lfod]

2 hours ago, Billy Zabka said:

"When confronted by Kim Pegula, the sources said, Brandon denied any such relationships, but the investigation indicated he was deceitful about that and other job-related issues that were uncovered."

 

This line caught my eye...Hopefully more news forthcoming.

 

 

Drugs. It was probably drugs. Cocaine. 

[LABILLBACKER]

10 years too late....now the culture has officially been changed....see ya snake oil....

[vincec]

The problem with getting into a relationship with a subordinate at work goes beyond the issues it creates with that subordinate. It also affects your ability to do your job as a leader because other coworkers will question your motives for giving assignments, criticisms, raises and/or promotions to that person. This will be the perception whether there is bias there or not. In fact, it's probably impossible to even know if you're being biased because of the complete loss of perspective that this type of thing creates.

 

I get the argument that we spend most of our time at work and where are we supposed to meet people and all that, but relationships between co-workers need to be restricted to relationships between employees who are on equal footings, IMO. And even those need to be taken on with extreme caution.

Edited May 2, 2018 by vincec

[USABuffaloFan]

8 hours ago, Reed83HOF said:

John Wawrow‏Verified account @john_wawrow 34s35 seconds ago

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¶ ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) _ A person with direct knowledge of the decision tells The Associated Press that Buffalo Bills and Sabres president Russ Brandon is leaving his post in a major shake-up made by the teams' owners, Terry and Kim Pegula.

 

Edit:

http://buffalonews.com/2018/05/01/russ-brandon-resigns-from-bills-sabres-after-internal-investigation/

 

Russ Brandon has resigned as managing partner and president of the Pegula sports empire.

Kim Pegula has taken over as president.

The move comes after Pegula Sports and Entertainment conducted an internal investigation into Brandon's workplace behavior and allegations of personal misconduct, two sources told The Buffalo News.

Kim Pegula on Friday informed Brandon an internal investigation was being conducted. Two sources with knowledge of the investigation said it was triggered by allegations of inappropriate relationships with female employees.

When confronted by Kim Pegula, the sources said, Brandon denied any such relationships, but the investigation indicated he was deceitful about that and other job-related issues that were uncovered.

Anyone taking pleasure of this announcement is just SIC! Your not a true Bills fan, just a troll. We all have good and bad memories of Russ running the Bills in different capacities. I wanted him gone!!! Not like this.

 

I always looked at Russ as a family man from Rochester to Western NY. Young guy who grew up in the Bills atmosphere. With power come a enormous burden to be more moral than the next guy. That is not easy, most men don't understand and alot of woman will exploit that. I would not want to be married and live their lifes. As a single guy, never married and 52 I can tell you alot of stories of the stuff I have seen with married men at bars. Doesn't matter what I do I am single but most married men behave worse than I do as a single guy. The point is don't judge or be judged. I am sure someone has seen something at one time in your life you would not want known!!!!!!!! No one but Jesus is moral enough to cast a stone here. Russ, good luck in your life. What ever happens here, be honest with your wife and keep it between your family. Us Bills fans don't need to know and don't want to know. Take care of FAMILY. Been a tough "20" years but I don't hate it, worse that happened is we needed to bomb out some times and give up on players quicker but knew alot of good men in that time, Kelsey, Williams, Woods, Jackson, Fitz, etc... You kept Levy legacy going, you loved NY. Fix your life, be a man, power isn't everything, family is. God Bless and find peace.

9 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Clearly Russ made the decision to draft Josh Allen

No Class!

9 hours ago, Boyst62 said:

Y'all late. I dropped this before lunch. And sent messages too.

 

 

He !@#$ed too many other chicks.  #metoo

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9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

This puts Kim’s “best weekend ever” tweet into a whole new light 

No Class!

9 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

I have said it before, but got yelled down.  Amongst other things, the guy is a sleeze (close second hand knowledge)

No Class!

9 hours ago, joesixpack said:

Ha, always knew that guy was a weasel. See ya pal.

 

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9 hours ago, teef said:

looks like russ played a bit too much grab ass at work.  that **** will always get you.

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8 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

Good riddance.  Scumbag couldn't find some action at one of the area bars?  Local boy gets put in his place.  Hope to never hear from him again.  

No Class!

[Estelle Getty]

7 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said:

Anyone taking pleasure of this announcement is just SIC! Your not a true Bills fan, just a troll. We all have good and bad memories of Russ running the Bills in different capacities. I wanted him gone!!! Not like this.

 

I always looked at Russ as a family man from Rochester to Western NY. Young guy who grew up in the Bills atmosphere. With power come a enormous burden to be more moral than the next guy. That is not easy, most men don't understand and alot of woman will exploit that. I would not want to be married and live their lifes. As a single guy, never married and 52 I can tell you alot of stories of the stuff I have seen with married men at bars. Doesn't matter what I do I am single but most married men behave worse than I do as a single guy. The point is don't judge or be judged. I am sure someone has seen something at one time in your life you would not want known!!!!!!!! No one but Jesus is moral enough to cast a stone here. Russ, good luck in your life. What ever happens here, be honest with your wife and keep it between your family. Us Bills fans don't need to know and don't want to know. Take care of FAMILY. Been a tough "20" years but I don't hate it, worse that happened is we needed to bomb out some times and give up on players quicker but knew alot of good men in that time, Kelsey, Williams, Woods, Jackson, Fitz, etc... You kept Levy legacy going, you loved NY. Fix your life, be a man, power isn't everything, family is. God Bless and find peace.

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Shut up

[USABuffaloFan]

Just now, Estelle Getty said:

 

Shut up

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8 hours ago, matter2003 said:

 

Russ got some polishing from a few too many interns apparently...

No Class!

8 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Would love to see Russ Brandon out somewhere.  Would love a chance to punch him in his punk ass face.  

No Class!

[Rebel101]

Probably Pegula's wife...but whatever he needed to go anyway 

[Bill_with_it]

Thank you Kim. I appreciate your removal of one of the final holdovers of the last organization.

[USABuffaloFan]

8 hours ago, jmc12290 said:

What are you talking about?

 

A man's life is being destroyed here and we have animals cheering based on zero information.

 

Awesome.  

No matter how you feel about what Russ did, this is not how it should end. Wison is crying right now real tears, same with Butler. Sad Bills day, this doesn't help our cause!

8 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

What rules did Russ Brandon break?  And do you mean rules, or laws?  And what constitutes just law here?  Do you mean "Don't run up and grab a woman by her breasts"?  Because I think we can all agree on that one.  Or do you mean "Don't do anything that has the potential to make a woman feel briefly awkward or uncomfortable?"  Because I don't think I can agree there.

He resigned not fired, statement was he was looking to leave after 20 years of service anyway. Means he was around to long and things got too comfortable. Sad but I can see this happening.

8 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

Glad that slimeball is outta here forever. He should be banned from all sabres/bills games.

No Class!

8 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Russ you should not have hit in the Pegula Women. 

No Class!

8 hours ago, The Wiz said:

Well one thing for sure,  she won't be playing grab ass on the job so about 40% of her time is freed up.

No Class!

8 hours ago, JoeF said:

Not when you are the CEO.  Its different.  You will be seen as compromised by engaging in an internal relationship.

20 years in the same place with disfunction everywhere and small success but a power position. I am hoping One Bills Drive survives, sad day!

[USABuffaloFan]

8 hours ago, dezertbill said:

Russ was a dynamic marketing mind that kept this team's season ticket and marketing afloat for decades longer than it should have.

 

And having hung out with him once upon a time, he was a really good dude.  Isn't a guy on this board that wouldn't enjoy having a beer with him.

 

Sad day. But today we live in a world (especially with a female owner) where we no longer tolerates extra marital affairs or unwelcome work misconduct.

 

Alleged misconduct. I fully understand the Pegula's distancing themselves too. But this man is not guilty of anything right now, he resigned. Even if he had affairs that makes him a bad husband, nothing else.

8 hours ago, mannc said:

It's impossible to know exactly what Brandon did, but I will say that the statement by the organization is strongly worded.  Terms like "personal misconduct" don't often get bandied about in press releases like this.  I think we're talking about something significantly worse than Russ just dating one or two girls who work for the organization.  It's also worth noting that Brandon probably was NOT an employee-at-will, so in order to constitute cause for termination, the (mis)conduct that he was accused of probably had to rise to a higher level than would justify firing your typical employee.

Pegula's brought the charges to Brandon and Brandon chose not to fight this and resign. This tells me Pegulas had good evidence but it wasn't so bad they wanted him charged. the woman must have agreed not to charge him and he resigned to stop any legality to the issues. 

[JoPar_v2]

3 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said:

Alleged misconduct. I fully understand the Pegula's distancing themselves too. But this man is not guilty of anything right now, he resigned. Even if he had affairs that makes him a bad husband, nothing else.

Maybe nothing else. But if he used his position within the organization to pressure coworkers into relationships or something similar, then he most certainly is something more than just a “bad husband.” 

 

I’ll wait till more info is out there, but it’s telling that in his texted statement to the AP he competely omitted the misconduct allegations, and offered up a completely innocent reasoning for his resignation. It’s been reported that follow up requests for comment on the allegations went unanswered.

[Turk71]

24 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said:

Anyone taking pleasure of this announcement is just SIC! Your not a true Bills fan, just a troll. We all have good and bad memories of Russ running the Bills in different capacities. I wanted him gone!!! Not like this.

 

I always looked at Russ as a family man from Rochester to Western NY. Young guy who grew up in the Bills atmosphere. With power come a enormous burden to be more moral than the next guy. That is not easy, most men don't understand and alot of woman will exploit that. I would not want to be married and live their lifes. As a single guy, never married and 52 I can tell you alot of stories of the stuff I have seen with married men at bars. Doesn't matter what I do I am single but most married men behave worse than I do as a single guy. The point is don't judge or be judged. I am sure someone has seen something at one time in your life you would not want known!!!!!!!! No one but Jesus is moral enough to cast a stone here. Russ, good luck in your life. What ever happens here, be honest with your wife and keep it between your family. Us Bills fans don't need to know and don't want to know. Take care of FAMILY. Been a tough "20" years but I don't hate it, worse that happened is we needed to bomb out some times and give up on players quicker but knew alot of good men in that time, Kelsey, Williams, Woods, Jackson, Fitz, etc... You kept Levy legacy going, you loved NY. Fix your life, be a man, power isn't everything, family is. God Bless and find peace.

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Sure buddy, Russ the serial cheat is a real class act. Good for you for having his back. I for one am glad he is gone. "Be honest with your wife and keep it between your family". Is that a joke? A little late for that, he obviously didn't give a **** about his wife or his family and flaunted his relationship in front of coworkers. Real classy how you blame the women who 'exploited' his power. Gtfoh with your holier than thou bull ****. He has nobody to blame but himself but you make him out to be a victim. No class is right.

  

[USABuffaloFan]

Just now, JoPar_v2 said:

Maybe nothing else. But if he used his position within the organization to pressure coworkers into relationships or something similar, then he most certainly is something more than just a “bad husband.” 

 

I’ll wait till more info is out there, but it’s telling that in his texted statement to the AP he competely omitted the misconduct allegations, and offered up a completely innocent reasoning for his resignation. It’s been reported that follow up requests for comment on the allegations went unanswered.

Do you really think the Pegula's want their legacy of putting Russ in charge of President of all business relations of all his Sport Companies with a history of abuse inside the organization. This is as much their fault for not making sure all was well or much to do about nothing and a way to part ways with a bad contract. Probably something in the midlle but a obvious mistrust between Pegulas and Brandon.

1 minute ago, Turk71 said:

Sure buddy, Russ the serial cheat is a real class act. Good for you for having his back. I for one am glad he is gone. "Be honest with your wife and keep it between your family". Is that a joke? A little late for that, he obviously didn't give a **** about his wife or his family and flaunted his relationship in front of coworkers. Real classy how you blame the women who 'exploited' his power. Gtfoh with your holier than thou bull ****. He has nobody to blame but himself but you make him out to be a victim. No class is right.

  

What woman? I see no names of victims. Your not aledging Russ did something but directly accusing he did, hope you have proof! I simply said at this point it was best he leave for his family then drag this through the mud. Enough good is happening with these sport teams this will GO AWAY unless charges are drawn. You obviously are a drama queen so have at it BIG BOY!

[JoPar_v2]

Just now, USABuffaloFan said:

Do you really think the Pegula's want their legacy of putting Russ in charge of President of all business relations of all his Sport Companies with a history of abuse inside the organization. This is as much their fault for not making sure all was well or much to do about nothing and a way to part ways with a bad contract. Probably something in the midlle but a obvious mistrust between Pegulas and Brandon.

Now who’s assuming things? We have no idea when ownership found out about this. There’s no evidence of a long history of abuse (yet). I’m sure the Pegulas would rather not be associated with him if these whispers are true, but last I checked Terry was an oil man, not an oracle.

[USABuffaloFan]

1 minute ago, JoPar_v2 said:

Now who’s assuming things? We have no idea when ownership found out about this. There’s no evidence of a long history of abuse (yet). I’m sure the Pegulas would rather not be associated with him if these whispers are true, but last I checked Terry was an oil man, not an oracle.

If you read there is a investigation into their sport enterprise that has been happening for awhile from allegations that have been made. PEOPLE please read before you jump in. I have read every article and post here tonite, Speed reader! I quit posting responses after page 10 because it got nauseous. Thanks.

38 minutes ago, Rebel101 said:

Probably Pegula's wife...but whatever he needed to go anyway 

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[JoPar_v2]

17 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said:

If you read there is a investigation into their sport enterprise that has been happening for awhile from allegations that have been made. PEOPLE please read before you jump in. I have read every article and post here tonite, Speed reader! I quit posting responses after page 10 because it got nauseous. Thanks.

No Class!

So you’re getting your information from other anonymous posters in this thread and using those to refute me. Okay. So if you got the inside scoop from “speed reading” dozens of pages of this thread, answer this: what is “awhile”? Like, an actual duration of time. 

[Ol Dirty B]

The beginning of this thread is gross.

 

You guys should probably just delete your posts with the gifs and all that.

1 hour ago, Bill_with_it said:

Thank you Kim. I appreciate your removal of one of the final holdovers of the last organization.

 

It wasn't for performance.

[USABuffaloFan]

15 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:

So you’re getting your information from other anonymous posters in this thread and using those to refute me. Okay. So if you got the inside scoop from “speed reading” dozens of pages of this thread, answer this: what is “awhile”? Like, an actual duration of time. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2018/05/01/russ-brandon-bills-sabres-resigns-investigation/570708002/

 

https://www.thescore.com/news/1537872

 

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/russ-brandon-resigns-from-bills-sabres-after-internal-investigation-511162.html

 

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/russ-brandon-resigns-from-bills-sabres-after-internal-investigation-511162.html

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

The beginning of this thread is gross.

 

You guys should probably just delete your posts with the gifs and all that.

 

It wasn't for performance.

Brandon hand little but two years what happened in the locker room as GM. He did hire Levy which most Bills fans at the time were OK with. What is happening now just needs to go away unless criminal activity happened. I am sure Brandon is not that guy!

[Hurricane Marv]

9 hours ago, jmc12290 said:

Do you celebrate when bad gas station attendants get fired too? Crack open a bottle of Dom when a lawyer gets fired for poor performance after a divorce?

 

Terry and Kim thought Rex was a wise investment. When did they become infallible again?

 

Gas attendants don't get paid six figures (seven?) for not doing their job well for continuous years while simultaneously grabbing women. Things change, as frankly anybody with a job should know.

 

Just give up. Your attempts at justifying this are pathetic. He was paid well for 20! years for helping produce a mediocre product.  He'll be fine.

 

If nothing else, this is good for breaking down the typical Buffalo fan's resistance to change - deal with it. This organization has sucked for years, I wholeheartedly support this. Napalm everything and let the Pegulas build it all back up in their image. It's as if they're finally gaining some confidence - good, because they're not going anywhere.

[Ol Dirty B]

5 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2018/05/01/russ-brandon-bills-sabres-resigns-investigation/570708002/

 

https://www.thescore.com/news/1537872

 

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/russ-brandon-resigns-from-bills-sabres-after-internal-investigation-511162.html

 

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/russ-brandon-resigns-from-bills-sabres-after-internal-investigation-511162.html

 

 

 

Brandon hand little but two years what happened in the locker room as GM. He did hire Levy which most Bills fans at the time were OK with. What is happening now just needs to go away unless criminal activity happened. I am sure Brandon is not that guy!

 

I used to be an anti Brandon guy. I didn't like him as a GM, I didn't like the levy hire then. However, I will say, he is the only person employed by the Bills I have measly 2nd hand connections to. I know a lot of people who know him, and he has even been responsible for getting me tickets to games.

 

From my understanding, he didn't necessarily want to be involved with football operations and a lot of what has gone on in the past few years has weighed on him. The drought was bothering him more than you or me. Granted he was banking some big checks during that time. I've heard nothing but good things about him, but I can't confirm that.

 

With all that said, if whatever he did is that bad, I'm sure law suits are coming. I don't know his character personally. It's a very difficult situation. I'm not going to celebrate this and anyone who does is just unsophisticated. If the goal of accuser was merely to get him fired, and all of this happened in this short of time. Notified of investigation Friday, let go by Tuesday. He must have crossed some lines. I'm amazed that people as incompetent as Terrance and Kim could amass the riches they have.

 

Please don't take that last sentence as a defense of Russ, rather a lack of trust in Terrance and Kim to run an organization. 

[cd1]

8 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

So, how long will the BILLS stay at St John Fisher?

 

Why is this even a "thing"?

 

 

[Ol Dirty B]

4 minutes ago, Hurricane Marv said:

 

Gas attendants don't get paid six figures (seven?) for not doing their job well for continuous years while simultaneously grabbing women. Things change, as frankly anybody with a job should know.

 

Just give up. Your attempts at justifying this are pathetic. He was paid well for 20! years for helping produce a mediocre product.  He'll be fine.

 

If nothing else, this is good for breaking down the typical Buffalo fan's resistance to change - deal with it. This organization has sucked for years, I wholeheartedly support this. Napalm everything and let the Pegulas build it all back up in their image. It's as if they're finally gaining some confidence - good, because they're not going anywhere.

 

I'm fine with firing people for performance. This wasn't performance related. You're hijacking this to fit the narrative you want.

[JoPar_v2]

25 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2018/05/01/russ-brandon-bills-sabres-resigns-investigation/570708002/

 

https://www.thescore.com/news/1537872

 

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/russ-brandon-resigns-from-bills-sabres-after-internal-investigation-511162.html

 

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/russ-brandon-resigns-from-bills-sabres-after-internal-investigation-511162.html

 

 

 

Brandon hand little but two years what happened in the locker room as GM. He did hire Levy which most Bills fans at the time were OK with. What is happening now just needs to go away unless criminal activity happened. I am sure Brandon is not that guy!

Thanks for the random links. Where in any of them do they state the duration of the investigation into Brandon’s extracurricular activities? 

 

You’re quite the expert at avoiding people’s questions.

Edited May 2, 2018 by JoPar_v2

[Hurricane Marv]

Just now, Ol Dirty B said:

 

I'm fine with firing people for performance. This wasn't performance related. You're hijacking this to fit the narrative you want.

 

He was no longer doing anything positive for either organization - check

He clearly violated something and pissed off the powers that be - check

 

Get him out of here.

 

But Ol Dirty Boring smells something to argue with so the resident miserable POS is going to feign disagreement for the simple matter of...disagreeing.

 

You're boring as !@#$ dude. Follow Russ and get the !@#$ out of here.

[USABuffaloFan]

Just now, JoPar_v2 said:

Thanks for the random links. Where in any of them do they state the duration of the investigation into Brandon’s extracurricular activities? 

 

You’re quite the expert at avoiding people questions.

You seem bent on knowing an exact time frame. Since none is given outside what I have heard I am not privy to let U know this knowledge but the fact remains investigations were occuring. Your points though are completely ambiguous and pointless. My main point is Brandon needed to leave and he is not a BAD man!

[Ol Dirty B]

7 minutes ago, Hurricane Marv said:

 

He was no longer doing anything positive for either organization - check

He clearly violated something and pissed off the powers that be - check

 

Get him out of here.

 

But Ol Dirty Boring smells something to argue with so the resident miserable POS is going to feign disagreement for the simple matter of...disagreeing.

 

You're boring as !@#$ dude. Follow Russ and get the !@#$ out of here.

 

I don't even know what to do with this post but accept that I'm smarter than you.

 

If I annoy you that much, put me on ignore. I've been nothing but congenial and trying to respect women that may be victims in my responses.

 

You on the other hand come across as someone who hopes he sexually harassed women so he can be fired. 

 

You're an unintelligent, delusional being. I won't quote you again, you're not worth talking to.

 

Edited May 2, 2018 by Ol Dirty B

[JoPar_v2]

1 minute ago, USABuffaloFan said:

You seem bent on knowing an exact time frame. Since none is given outside what I have heard I am not privy to let U know this knowledge but the fact remains investigations were occuring. Your points though are completely ambiguous and pointless. My main point is Brandon needed to leave and he is not a BAD man!

I’m not bent on anything. I said I was waiting for more facts to be released regarding this. YOU claimed to know the timeframes in question, so I asked you.

 

Conveniently you can’t answer, because reasons. Oh you’re another one with “inside info” huh? Sure buddy. You’re sure this activity and investigation has been going on for a while but have nothing to substantiate it. And I guess you know from your souces what the exact behavior was that led to today as well? That’s how you’re certain Russ isn’t a baaaaad man? You’re FOS. And Russ may really be a bad man, I’ll wait for the actual reporters to find out before I pass judgment however. Run along troll. 

 

By the way it’s “root for” not “rout for”.

[USABuffaloFan]

18 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

I don't even know what to do with this post but accept that I'm smarter than you.

 

If I annoy you that much, put me on ignore. I've been nothing but congenial and trying to respect women that may be victims in my responses.

 

You on the other hand come across as someone who hopes he sexually harassed women so he can be fired. 

 

You're an unintelligent, delusional being. I won't quote you again, you're not worth talking to.

 

Not sure this helps but I back you up 100%, I like your posts.

15 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:

I’m not bent on anything. I said I was waiting for more facts to be released regarding this. YOU claimed to know the timeframes in question, so I asked you.

 

Conveniently you can’t answer, because reasons. Oh you’re another one with “inside info” huh? Sure buddy. You’re sure this activity and investigation has been going on for a while but have nothing to substantiate it. And I guess you know from your souces what the exact behavior was that led to today as well? That’s how you’re certain Russ isn’t a baaaaad man? You’re FOS. And Russ may really be a bad man, I’ll wait for the actual reporters to find out before I pass judgment however. Run along troll. 

 

By the way it’s “root for” not “rout for”.

Might be a bad husband but he represented the Bills for 20 years well, not great. I will not explain myself too you, don't need to. The sources provided show that it isn't a "fake" resource of info. Pegula's did not want this to happen. Would rather Brandon have just walked away. Sources were leaked and this is what comes of that. A known problem for the Bills.

13 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

If Brandon needed to leave and wasn't a bad man, leaving under the guise of sexual harassment is certainly not the way to do it. Especially now.

Really wasn't his choice when you have Billionaires Sport Enterprise being under investigation.

13 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

If Brandon needed to leave and wasn't a bad man, leaving under the guise of sexual harassment is certainly not the way to do it. Especially now.

Also, What do you consider a bad man?

18 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

I don't even know what to do with this post but accept that I'm smarter than you.

 

If I annoy you that much, put me on ignore. I've been nothing but congenial and trying to respect women that may be victims in my responses.

 

You on the other hand come across as someone who hopes he sexually harassed women so he can be fired. 

 

You're an unintelligent, delusional being. I won't quote you again, you're not worth talking to.

 

My original post to this site:

 

"Anyone taking pleasure of this announcement is just SIC! Your not a true Bills fan, just a troll. We all have good and bad memories of Russ running the Bills in different capacities. I wanted him gone!!! Not like this.

 

I always looked at Russ as a family man from Rochester to Western NY. Young guy who grew up in the Bills atmosphere. With power comes a enormous burden to be more moral than the next guy. That is not easy, most men don't understand and alot of woman will exploit that. I would not want to be married and live their lifes. As a single guy, never married and 52 I can tell you alot of stories of the stuff I have seen with married men at bars. Doesn't matter what I do I am single but most married men behave worse than I do as a single guy. The point is don't judge or be judged. I am sure someone has seen something at one time in your life you would not want known!!!!!!!! No one but Jesus is moral enough to cast a stone here. Russ, good luck in your life. What ever happens here, be honest with your wife and keep it between your family. Us Bills fans don't need to know and don't want to know. Take care of FAMILY. Been a tough "20" years but I don't hate it, worse that happened is we needed to bomb out some times and give up on players quicker but knew alot of good men in that time, Kelsey, Williams, Woods, Jackson, Fitz, etc... You kept Levy legacy going, you loved NY. Fix your life, be a man, power isn't everything, family is. God Bless and find peace."

Edited May 2, 2018 by USABuffaloFan

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, USABuffaloFan said:

Alleged misconduct. I fully understand the Pegula's distancing themselves too. But this man is not guilty of anything right now, he resigned. Even if he had affairs that makes him a bad husband, nothing else.

Pegula's brought the charges to Brandon and Brandon chose not to fight this and resign. This tells me Pegulas had good evidence but it wasn't so bad they wanted him charged. the woman must have agreed not to charge him and he resigned to stop any legality to the issues. 

 

Charged with what?  You’re implying that something criminal occurred.  Maybe we should tap or even slam on the brakes on that.  I haven’t seen anything to indicate that Brandon’s conduct went beyond immorality and deceit. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, USABuffaloFan said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2018/05/01/russ-brandon-bills-sabres-resigns-investigation/570708002/

 

https://www.thescore.com/news/1537872

 

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/russ-brandon-resigns-from-bills-sabres-after-internal-investigation-511162.html

 

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/russ-brandon-resigns-from-bills-sabres-after-internal-investigation-511162.html

 

 

 

Brandon hand little but two years what happened in the locker room as GM. He did hire Levy which most Bills fans at the time were OK with. What is happening now just needs to go away unless criminal activity happened. I am sure Brandon is not that guy!

 

No fan I know supported the levy hire.

[USABuffaloFan]

7 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Charged with what?  You’re implying that something criminal occurred.  Maybe we should tap or even slam on the brakes on that.  I haven’t seen anything to indicate that Brandon’s conduct went beyond immorality and deceit. 

"But this man is not guilty of anything right now, he resigned."

 

You need to read everything!

6 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

No fan I know supported the levy hire.

It was big when it happened. I remember the draft and Losman, McCargo we all thought Buffalo was on it's way back. McCargo got hurt in camp but Losman looked like something. 2 years later, opps!

12 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Charged with what?  You’re implying that something criminal occurred.  Maybe we should tap or even slam on the brakes on that.  I haven’t seen anything to indicate that Brandon’s conduct went beyond immorality and deceit. 

"Pegula's brought the charges to Brandon and Brandon chose not to fight this and resign. This tells me Pegulas had good evidence but it wasn't so bad they wanted him charged."

What this means is the investigations in Pegula's Sport agency wasn't just Brandon but he was the highest figure so it was best things get changed. Why would the Pegula's want this to linger any farther, sexual harassment charges are serious if they go to court, the individual and company have a stake!