Harrison Phillips will be a BEAST!

[FeelingOnYouboty]

Can't believe we got him at 96 and the Redskins got Payne at 13 lol

[The Now Moment]

Give the kid time to develop before saying what his career will or won't be.  I will never understand how fans come to conclusions about player's career before they take the field for us.  The kid is playing behind a solid veteran and a great DT.  He is a very smart kid and will learn from both of them.  Hopefully, he improves and fits in like a glove, time will tell.

[John from Riverside]

One thing to note here......

 

My thoughts go back to Marcel D. here.....giving up a high 1st round pick and a huge contract that he never lived up to.......and then you have this guy that might give you that exact same production for a fraction of the cost and AT LEAST (we hope) the production.

 

It allows you to use your cap on other positions.....this is how you biuld a good team...you draft guys like this.

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

On ‎4‎/‎30‎/‎2018 at 6:41 PM, SydneyBillsFan said:

So this guy clearly has good credentials, but I am interested in what folks here think about how well he would work in tandem with the likes of Kyle and Star.

 

I happen to think he's perfect to eventually succeed Kyle, and should be part of a rotation to help keep Kyle fresh.

 

Star is a two-gapper, who clogs two lanes. Looking at the style that Pettine used for pressure, I think that Star draws the center and his guard, leaving Kyle/Phillips in a one on one. Kyle, at least as of a few years ago, kills in that matchup most of the time.

[John from Riverside]

I am excited to see what Edmunds/Milano do in a defense that keeps their jersey's clean the way those guys fly around

[LABILLBACKER]

On 4/30/2018 at 1:51 PM, JimKellyTryouts said:

We all just have no idea how he fell so far

This is the steal of our draft and it's not even close....

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

Meatball was so good at somehow figuring out snap counts. He would always be the first guy to react right as the ball was being snapped like he knew the count. Williams can shed and anchor or penetrate and push the pocket. Phillips has the same build and power as Williams but it will take him a few years to be on the same level as Meatball.

[TakeYouToTasker]

I love this kid's motor, bend, and leg drive.  If he can get better with his hands he has the potential to be a very good player.

[Billsfanatixs]

On 4/30/2018 at 4:56 PM, SydneyBillsFan said:

How the hell does a guy like this with over 100 tackles drop to pick 96? 

That's exactly what I asked my buddy who is a college football freak. I was asking if I'm missing something. The dude has a 16 minute highlight video on YouTube.

 

After 10 minutes of watching him plug guys begind the line I started wondering what is wrong with the analyst and why wasn't he in the conversation for first round or maybe even top ten.

 

If it's size, then they are dumb, there are a ton of guys with size that never amount to jack.

 

Go Bills!

[Tcali]

On 4/30/2018 at 1:54 PM, CaptnCoke11 said:

Taller and heavier than Kyle.  Style of play isn’t that similar either.  Only comparison really is they are both white which is why you see people make the comparison 

If anything Kyle is a bit heavier...In that Kyle is a lot shorter and weighs thesame.

[Punching Bag]

4 minutes ago, Billsfanatixs said:

After 10 minutes of watching him plug guys begind the line I started wondering what is wrong with the analyst and why wasn't he in the conversation for first round or maybe even top ten.

 

Supposedly his attitude changed with new staff but then he adjusted.  Will the Bills personnel frequently being replaced (and unfortunately not all who deserve it like Jim Overdorf and Juan Castillo) he needs to be able to adjust to changes in direction quickly.

[TPS]

11 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Can't believe we got him at 96 and the Redskins got Payne at 13 lol

It’s all part of Buffalo’s new attitude. Drought is over, #1 pick in the nhl draft, harry drops to 96. 

[Paul Costa]

13 hours ago, Billsfansinceday1 said:

I didn't see it posted here so here is a nice interview with Harrison by Murphy and Tasker.  He sounds like a very level-headed, thoughtful young man.  

 

http://www.buffalobills.com/video/audio/Harrison-Phillips-Im-excited-to-get-to-work/ae8e4615-6fa1-4630-9ca7-dd7cd1e8df1c

Heard this too. Ex State Champ Wrestler and Strong Christian values. McDermott’s dream profile of a player. A lot of Community Service too. He will be a fan favorite for sure. Great add to the program 

[#34fan]

Should be more than adequate as a run-stuffer, but a "beast"????  Hard to picture that...-I'd have to see it to believe it.

[Peace Frog]

2 hours ago, #34fan said:

Should be more than adequate as a run-stuffer, but a "beast"????  Hard to picture that...-I'd have to see it to believe it.

Man, your pessimistic attitude is the grocery bag in the urinal.  Have a little faith.  This defense has a chance to be something special this season.  Trent, Star, Kyle, Harrison, Jerry, Tremaine, Tre'Davious, Lorax, Micah, Jordan, etc.

Edited May 3, 2018 by Peace Frog

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Championship !!!

[ExiledInIllinois]

9 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

Man, your pessimistic attitude is the grocery bag in the urinal.  Have a little faith.  This defense has a chance to be something special this season.  Trent, Star, Kyle, Harrison, Jerry, Tremaine, Tre'Davious, Lorax, Micah, Jordan, etc.

[#34fan]

18 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

Man, your pessimistic attitude is the grocery bag in the urinal. 

 

And you're the guy who p_sses in it anyway... Sure hope those homer pom-poms are still bouncing in November.

[BullBuchanan]

On 4/30/2018 at 3:46 PM, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

My favorite pick of the draft. 

 

Same

[Bring it]

On 4/30/2018 at 6:15 PM, NewEra said:

Thanks.  I don’t think Phillips gets off the snap nearly as fast as Kyle.  Not many DTs ever have.  That’s his best attribute imo.  

I agree. He isn’t slow off the ball but he doesn’t have Kyles quickness at the snap. However I think he will be much stronger than KW against the run. Phillips is definitely a one tech. nose tackle. He will be hard to keep off the field imo.

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, Bring it said:

I agree. He isn’t slow off the ball but he doesn’t have Kyles quickness at the snap. However I think he will be much stronger than KW against the run. Phillips is definitely a one tech. nose tackle. He will be hard to keep off the field imo.

Isn’t that what Star plays in this D?   

[Peace Frog]

5 hours ago, #34fan said:

 

And you're the guy who p_sses in it anyway... Sure hope those homer pom-poms are still bouncing in November.

You're done.  Welcome to ignore, Negative Pollyanna.

[Soda Popinski]

If he does his job in this defense, Edmunds and Millano will look like the beasts.   But the kid knows what it means to do the grunt work in order to win games.   Love the pick.  Kyle Williams he's not.  But as a rotational run stuffing DT, well our run defense was pretty bad last year.   

[TigerJ]

On 4/30/2018 at 4:54 PM, CaptnCoke11 said:

Taller and heavier than Kyle.  Style of play isn’t that similar either.  Only comparison really is they are both white which is why you see people make the comparison 

Kyle Williams has quicker explosion off the LOS. That's the factor that has allowed him to be disruptive in the backfield over the years.  They're both good at hand fighting in order to shed blocks.  I think that's where Harrison's wrestling background gives him a leg up on some DT prospects.

[ddaryl]

15 hours ago, Paul Costa said:

Heard this too. Ex State Champ Wrestler and Strong Christian values. McDermott’s dream profile of a player. A lot of Community Service too. He will be a fan favorite for sure. Great add to the program 

 

Diddling little boys is also a christian value. So is televagelism etc.. Very ugly values IMO.

 

Please tell me McDermott is not a bigott, because I am constatly reading form posters how he chose this guy or that because of their Christian values.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mat68]

On 4/30/2018 at 4:51 PM, JimKellyTryouts said:

We all just have no idea how he fell so far

 Not overly athletic, a tweaner(too small for nose, not quick enough for 3 technique) and motor.  A knock was he didnt chase down the field plays so looks poorly on film.  The response to the motor is that he played nearly every defensive snap over 95%, so he had to be calculated with his energy.  Mcdermott likes to maximize effort and energy of his dline so that wont be an issue here.  

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, Soda Popinski said:

If he does his job in this defense, Edmunds and Millano will look like the beasts.   But the kid knows what it means to do the grunt work in order to win games.   Love the pick.  Kyle Williams he's not.  But as a rotational run stuffing DT, well our run defense was pretty bad last year.   

There was a point where Kyle Williams was not Kyle Williams.

 

I still remember when we drafted him....in what...the FIFTH round...

 

What was the knock on him at that time.....short arms I think.

 

I know this....when we drafted Adolphus Washington I was VERY concerned about the talk that he was  not stout against the run and his pass rush ability was being promoted...first and foremost a DT has to CONTROL THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.......I think we found that with this guy.

[947]

Phillips is a future pro bowler in this Defense. He's not just a doubleteam eating 1-tech, he can penetrate- as shown by 100+ tackles last year. He'll be a rotational guy in year 1, but will really take off post-Kyle.

[Logic]

I'll say this: With Phillips and Star in the middle and Edmunds behind him, teams will NOT be running straight up the gut against the Bills like they did last year.

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

I'll say this: With Phillips and Star in the middle and Edmunds behind him, teams will NOT be running straight up the gut against the Bills like they did last year.

Im starting to get very excited about this defense

 

- DT is set......and if you need pass rush in the middle you can flip Shaq Lawson inside to pair with Meatball on certain packages.....Star and Phillips should clog the run nicely

 

- LB's much more athletic...not just Edmunds but keep in mind Milano goes into his second year and was a STUD when they finally let him play...he was everywhere

 

- The secondary is total quality

 

- They addressed pass rush.....you can flip Lorax out to rush the passer also

 

I am expecting a big jump on D this year (which jumped from last year from the previous year) possibly top 5

 

 

[Kmart128]

Can't wait to see our goalline defense with Harrison

 

DE: Shaq Lawson

DT: Kyle Williams

NT: Star Lotulelei

DT: Harrison Philips

DE: Trent Murphy

SLB: Lorenzo Alexander

MLB: Tremaine Edmunds

WLB: Matt Milano

CB: Vontae Davis

S: Jordan Poyer

CB: Tre White

 

Good luck trying to run on that stout run stuffing defense line with those huge athletic Linebackers behind them

Edited May 3, 2018 by Kmart128

[#34fan]

4 hours ago, Peace Frog said:

You're done.  Welcome to ignore, Negative Pollyanna.

 

Welp, -so much for peace.

[Dr. Who]

4 hours ago, Soda Popinski said:

If he does his job in this defense, Edmunds and Millano will look like the beasts.   But the kid knows what it means to do the grunt work in order to win games.   Love the pick.  Kyle Williams he's not.  But as a rotational run stuffing DT, well our run defense was pretty bad last year.   

Good to hear from you, Soda.  Excellent point.

[Soda Popinski]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

There was a point where Kyle Williams was not Kyle Williams.

 

I still remember when we drafted him....in what...the FIFTH round...

 

What was the knock on him at that time.....short arms I think.

 

I know this....when we drafted Adolphus Washington I was VERY concerned about the talk that he was  not stout against the run and his pass rush ability was being promoted...first and foremost a DT has to CONTROL THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.......I think we found that with this guy.

I remember Kyle Williams being Kyle Williams from day 1 week 1 practice 1.   They didn't want to admit McCargo was a mistake because Kyle was doing every thing better than he was but Kyle could always play. 

[Elite Poster]

On 4/30/2018 at 4:28 PM, billspro said:

I think he will end up being the best DT in the class. It is unheard of for a DT to lead his team in tackles. He was named 1st team over Vea who is a very good player in his own right.

 

Um

[John from Riverside]

5 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said:

I remember Kyle Williams being Kyle Williams from day 1 week 1 practice 1.   They didn't want to admit McCargo was a mistake because Kyle was doing every thing better than he was but Kyle could always play. 

My point being when we took Kyle he was a 5th round pick....and we didnt know much about him at the time like the Rook

 

Now to be fair here.....the rook is stepping in behind a multi pro bowler sure fire wall of famer in the Meatball and NOT that loser John McCargo.

 

but both were late round picks and unknowns to start..that is all I am saying.

 

My feeling if he gets anywhere close to Kyle Williams in play we scored

[Soda Popinski]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

My point being when we took Kyle he was a 5th round pick....and we didnt know much about him at the time like the Rook

 

Now to be fair here.....the rook is stepping in behind a multi pro bowler sure fire wall of famer in the Meatball and NOT that loser John McCargo.

 

but both were late round picks and unknowns to start..that is all I am saying.

 

My feeling if he gets anywhere close to Kyle Williams in play we scored

I agree I think getting him in the late 3rd was an absolute homerun for this draft.   He will come in here like a sponge and soak up a lot of knowledge from both Kyle and Star.  I expect a heavy rotation from our Dline finally now that we have guys worth rotating.   I'd like to see Adolphus Washington step it up too because I feel like he should be doing the 3 tech behind Kyle while Phillips should be backing up Star at the nose, but wherever they put them I expect a better run defense this year vs last year.   Add a much faster LB in Edmunds and a 2nd year LB in Millano and our front 7 should be improved.  

[Alphadawg7]

On 4/30/2018 at 11:43 AM, HoserE said:

I live out here is PAC-12 country and will tell you that this kid is a beast.  He was the middle anchor of a very good Stanford defense.  Smart, instinctive, tough, physical, hard worker.  The second coming of Kyle.  

 

I concur

[Kmart128]

1 hour ago, Soda Popinski said:

I remember Kyle Williams being Kyle Williams from day 1 week 1 practice 1.   They didn't want to admit McCargo was a mistake because Kyle was doing every thing better than he was but Kyle could always play. 

 

Not really... I remember not liking Kyle Williams. I wanted us to start McCargo. He seemed like he played better early on in their careers but staff seemed to love Kyle Williams and I couldn't figure out why... Boy was I wrong.

[Soda Popinski]

Just now, Kmart128 said:

 

Not really... I remember not liking Kyle Williams. I wanted us to start McCargo. He seemed like he played better early on in their careers but staff seemed to love Kyle Williams and I couldn't figure out why... Boy was I wrong.

I was biased for Kyle from the start for one simple reason. I played with #95 in junior high and that was my number so I was all in on Kyle from the get go.   I also had a Sam Adams Jersey that i recycled as well.   Still have it.   Still have my Dareus error jersey that I'm probably going to recycle as well.