MAJBobby Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’d agree with this as well. I think that they are looking at Groy, Bodine, Miller and Vlad on the interior and Dawkins & Mills with Newhouse as the swing tackle. I would like to see another tackle added but we will see. Watch Conner McDermott. There is a reason he stuck all year when INJ started happening his writeup. Strengths Towering left tackle. Has experience in a pro-style attack. Gets into kick-slide without much laboring. Decent pass-slide quickness. Decent hand readiness. In run game, comes off ball with flat back and uncorks his hips into target. Generates some pop with his initial contact as run blocker. Has some redirect power to stuff stunts inside. Solid cut-blocker. Athletic feet with rare background. Was finalist for McDonald's High School All-American team as a senior basketball player and won Mr. Basketball for Division II-AA in Tennessee. Weaknesses Very little bubble with below-average leg thickness. Plays too upright and with some stiff-leggedness. Lack of bend affects his ability to change direction. Hit-or-miss connection percentage on second level. Core strength is well-below desired NFL level. Bull-rushers can put him on skates and roll him back into the quarterback. Operates with weak punch in pass sets. Rare to find him land hands inside defender's frame on consecutive snaps. Doesn't trust his own foot quickness. Opens way too early in pass sets. Over-sets in race to the edge, allowing defenders to beat him inside or knock him off-balance with an inside club move. Sources Tell Us "Just not strong enough to play in our league. Unless he finds more core (strength), I can't see him being able to survive against power." -- AFC South scout Edited April 28, 2018 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Some of the high draft choice OL guys will bump a few vets off of rosters. That's where I think Beane will look for some OL help along with other teams' PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: I think its safe to expect a WR with the 1st overall pick next year. Pass Rushing End actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, BadLandsMeanie said: o line doesn't pass block in your world? Do you feel more comfortable with Lafayette Pitts getting playing time or Vlad Ducasse? The answer to that question is why we drafted Johnson. Nevermind the fact theres value at DB right now as opposed to the OL scraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Great fit. Buffalo with E.J. Gaines 2017: 8 -3 / 20 ppg allowed Buffalo without E.J. Gaines 2017: 1 - 4 / 30.4 ppg allowed Not sure if the correlation is related directly to Gaines playing in those games, but he definitely seemed to be a factor in the defenses performance. Taron Johnson has a similar skill set to Gaines and hopefully he can have a similar impact on this defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, BadLandsMeanie said: o line doesn't pass block in your world? O line pass blocks all F'ing day, and never runs the football, if the secondary can't stop the other team from passing in my world. That does 2 things: 1. Significantly increases the fatigue of the O line, thus increasing the chance for injury 2. Forces the QB and every blocking scheme, on every play, to be near perfect. While I fully understand the need/want to run the football, I also understand that running is pointless when you are down 2 TD in the 3rd qtr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’d agree with this as well. I think that they are looking at Groy, Bodine, Miller and Vlad on the interior and Dawkins & Mills with Newhouse as the swing tackle. I would like to see another tackle added but we will see. I wanted Richardson at that point, that's why I wasn't thrilled, but McBeane have shown good talent evaluation on D sooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Tyrell Cosbey OT/OG - Still there. St Brown and Cain - Still there. Perfect 5th round picks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tcali said: Matt Millen approves wasn't he indicted on "felonious impersonation of an NFL President" charges?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Take Cobbs they you might not have to pay Benjamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Perfect fit for this system. Both sides of the ball are void of talent and have huge need. I see this kid getting substantial playing time. I want offense too, but if they don't like who they see on offense I would rather land a contributor on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, njbuff said: This is the problem with predicting these picks.................. Who the heck had this kid on their radar? I am done trying to predict these things. I have no idea. Smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Steptide said: Still 3 picks to go, hopefully wide reciever and o line help Be nice to find an “Andre Reed” in 5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: Jon Scott @JonScottTV 29s30 seconds ago #Bills only have 4 cornerbacks on the roster right now: Tre'Davious White, Vontae Davis, Breon Borders, and Lafayette Pitts. This is a sneaky position of need that's filled a little by Taron Johnson And Phillip Gaines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Watch Conner McDermott. There is a reason he stuck all year when INJ started happening his writeup. Strengths Towering left tackle. Has experience in a pro-style attack. Gets into kick-slide without much laboring. Decent pass-slide quickness. Decent hand readiness. In run game, comes off ball with flat back and uncorks his hips into target. Generates some pop with his initial contact as run blocker. Has some redirect power to stuff stunts inside. Solid cut-blocker. Athletic feet with rare background. Was finalist for McDonald's High School All-American team as a senior basketball player and won Mr. Basketball for Division II-AA in Tennessee. Weaknesses Very little bubble with below-average leg thickness. Plays too upright and with some stiff-leggedness. Lack of bend affects his ability to change direction. Hit-or-miss connection percentage on second level. Core strength is well-below desired NFL level. Bull-rushers can put him on skates and roll him back into the quarterback. Operates with weak punch in pass sets. Rare to find him land hands inside defender's frame on consecutive snaps. Doesn't trust his own foot quickness. Opens way too early in pass sets. Over-sets in race to the edge, allowing defenders to beat him inside or knock him off-balance with an inside club move. Sources Tell Us "Just not strong enough to play in our league. Unless he finds more core (strength), I can't see him being able to survive against power." -- AFC South scout Completely forgot about him!! I know that the Pats wanted him (or something like that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Completely forgot about him!! I know that the Pats wanted him (or something like that). Yes they drafted him in 6th. Cut him to try and slide him thru to the PS. Bills claimed him and kept him on their 53 all season because they knew he would not get to their PS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I think the plan on offensive line is Dion Dawkins at left guard newhouse/McDermott left tackle groy/Bodine center nickel cornerback is a huge need brady hasn't retired our best chances this year elite defense hold opponents down score just enough next year build the offensive side of the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Free agent talent. This is the worst pick so far. I don’t like small corners. This guy is a depth play, might be able to play slot but why so early? They should gone WR or offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFreeman22 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, JinxedBill1 said: Ok wondering when the oline gets help. Like this kid though, I think we could have got him later tho. this what drives me crazy, think we could have drafted him later, ok , i'll bite what make you think they could have drafted hum later,. just give me one iota of proof to back up your statement. thought so, you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Pass Rushing End actually Not if they keep Hughes, he's signed through 2019, and Murphy is effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 A 4th round CB will likely make more of a difference than a OL. If there was an OL prospect that was thought to be able to play he would have been drafted already. A CB can be a situational guy that can help win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, MURPHD6 said: Not if they keep Hughes, he's signed through 2019, and Murphy is effective. Draft looks to be full of top end pass rushing talent....Top pass rushers should be a high pick after QB...WRs not so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mopreme said: Free agent talent. This is the worst pick so far. I don’t like small corners. This guy is a depth play, might be able to play slot but why so early? They should gone WR or offensive line. Well... we’re coming up to our pick again and nobody has really taken any WRs or OL between 121 and now so... Slot guys are on the field a lot and are usually found in the middle rounds if you want a competent one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just saw a graphic on Twitter that lists the two players to whom Teron Johnson compares athletically and based on measurables: EJ Gaines and Tre'Davious White. Soooo....it seems McDermott has a type when it comes to CBs! Johnson should be an immediate CB4 and special teams contributor, with the upside to be a long term starter at nickel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Draft looks to be full of top end pass rushing talent....Top pass rushers should be a high pick after QB...WRs not so much Maybe they should, but they already invested too much in Allen not to double down. They have to pair him with a potential number 1 that he can develop chemistry with long term. If the value isn't there, I would expect a trade back again. Having a QB who has the strongest arm in the NFL means very little if you don't have a buner at WR who can stretch the field. Allen isn't a finesse passer, and he may never be. And without a deep threat he will be easy to stop. We desperately need a speedster with size who can track the ball, a number 1 like AJ Green with all the tools. Without that kind of help, he may never develop. Edited April 28, 2018 by MURPHD6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Watkins101 said: What do we know about him? Nothing,unless somebody in here has season tickets to the Weber St. games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I'm sure he's fine but how about Guard Wyatt Teller or DE Okoronkwo? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, MattM said: Me, too—that or Richie coming back. I heard that Joeckel was having a good comeback year last year before getting hurt. I still think Richie is coming back...add a few more million to a restructured contract and he'll be at SJF.We all know...money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 24 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: Maybe they should, but they already invested too much in Allen not to double down. They have to pair him with a potential number 1 that he can develop chemistry with long term. If the value isn't there, I would expect a trade back again. Having a QB who has the strongest arm in the NFL means very little if you don't have a buner at WR who can stretch the field. Allen isn't a finesse passer, and he may never be. And without a deep threat he will be easy to stop. We desperately need a speedster with size who can track the ball, a number 1 like AJ Green with all the tools. Without that kind of help, he may never develop. If we take a step back, get a high pick and Collin Johnson puts it all together; he could be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 42 minutes ago, Rufridr101 said: I think the plan on offensive line is Dion Dawkins at left guard newhouse/McDermott left tackle groy/Bodine center nickel cornerback is a huge need brady hasn't retired our best chances this year elite defense hold opponents down score just enough next year build the offensive side of the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 hours ago, dgrochester55 said: Looks like the waiver wire for added o-line depth and WR, it can be done, just hope that it is the right mix. You have to have any depth to have added depth Ok not even sure we can field a full set of WRs or a full OLINE with what's on the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Team captain so fits the process culture. Could also probably wrestle in a pinch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CSBill Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 hours ago, njbuff said: This is the problem with predicting these picks.................. Who the heck had this kid on their radar? I am done trying to predict these things. I have no idea. good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Bills like subpar athleticism in a group of their picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will-GM-for-food Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 hours ago, inaugural balls said: Pipe down Sometimes it helps to reduce stress 3 hours ago, Returntoglory said: Thank you Coach! ? You're welcome ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davealan74 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Blokestradamus said: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000000919574/Football-hits-Taron-Johnson-in-the-head-during-gauntlet-drill At least we know he can bat a ball down with his face. Now that is skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: wasn't he indicted on "felonious impersonation of an NFL President" charges?..... he absconded with millions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spielman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Should’ve just resigned L. Johnson instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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