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Allen or Jackson or Rudolph  

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  1. 1. Who do you take at 12?



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2 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said:

Wet dream Allen is there at 12. If so it will be an absolute homerun.  If Allen is gone, then you take best defender on the board at 12, maybe trade down a few spots if you can instead, and then take Rudolph at 22.  

 

Rather grab one of those later round QBs than draft Rudolph.

 

If we stay with our picks I would go: DE Marcus Davenport, LB Leighton Vander Esch

 

 

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If Allen gets past 4 I'm calling everyone between 4 and 12.  I wouldn't risk letting him fall to 12. 

 

As for staying at 12 and he falls there I'm all over him.  If he is gone I have no problem taking Rudolph there. I have Rudolph as my 3rd QB tied with Darnold. Mayfield at 1 and Allen as my 2nd.  I realise I'm not a pro but I feel Rudolph, Darnold, and Rosen are close.  I have never seen a draft with so many QBs I would spend a first on.  People say Rudolph is a system QB.  So are Brady and Alex Smith.  You just run the system they play well in. At this point I feel Darnold and Rosen have big risks.  Darnold doesn't take care of the ball and Rosen has serious injury concerns as well as other reasons I don't like him as a person.

 

Sorry I am very long winded tonight lol, trying to address the critics pre-emptively.

5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Rather grab one of those later round QBs than draft Rudolph.

 

If we stay with our picks I would go: DE Marcus Davenport, LB Leighton Vander Esch

 

 

I like Rudolph but I can't argue with those two picks.  But with Allen still there you would take a shot at the ceiling and draft a later round QB.  After all we are keeping all of our picks.  There is a part of me that would like us to stay put and also trade back into the first to make a 3rd selection on day 1.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Rather grab one of those later round QBs than draft Rudolph.

 

If we stay with our picks I would go: DE Marcus Davenport, LB Leighton Vander Esch

 

 

I have no issue with that and then see what AJ and a new OC can do.  Still think they swing for the fences but AJ and 6 high draft picks is a reasonable way to go.

1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said:

If Allen gets past 4 I'm calling everyone between 4 and 12.  I wouldn't risk letting him fall to 12. 

 

As for staying at 12 and he falls there I'm all over him.  If he is gone I have no problem taking Rudolph there. I have Rudolph as my 3rd QB tied with Darnold. Mayfield at 1 and Allen as my 2nd.  I realise I'm not a pro but I feel Rudolph, Darnold, and Rosen are close.  I have never seen a draft with so many QBs I would spend a first on.  People say Rudolph is a system QB.  So are Brady and Alex Smith.  You just run the system they play well in. At this point I feel Darnold and Rosen have big risks.  Darnold doesn't take care of the ball and Rosen has serious injury concerns as well as other reasons I don't like him as a person.

 

Sorry I am very long winded tonight lol, trying to address the critics pre-emptively.

I like Rudolph but I can't argue with those two picks.  But with Allen still there you would take a shot at the ceiling and draft a later round QB.  After all we are keeping all of our picks.  There is a part of me that would like us to stay put and also trade back into the first to make a 3rd selection on day 1.

No thanks.  If they got Allen at 12 I would be perfectly happy trading out of the first round and give up 22 for another second this year and next year.  A player at 22 or in the top 10 of the second round are just as likely to succeed but at a significant discount.   

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Can someone sell me on Allen?

 

what else does he have asides from a cannon and stature? 

 

The only qb I can think of to compare him to is Flacco, but Flacco isn’t as mobile.

 

I guess my question is, will he better or worse than Flacco? 

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I want the Baker.  Might like Rudolph over Allen, but I haven't seen enough tape. I actually (for the first time in a long time) trust the Bills FO to make the right decision and get their guy.  Jackson doesn't seem to fit the mold as much, but he's got some upside. I've never gotten the fuss over Darnold. I lived in LA and my friends are USC fanatics and they don't gush over him. Not many USC or UCLA QB's have lit up the NFL in the last few decades. 

 

The dark horses,  Lauletta, White, Ferguson.

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I take Allen. He's the best option of the 3. He's got the higher ceiling as a passer of the 3. I would take Jackson over Rudolph if someone had a gun to my head and it was between the 2. 

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Allen is a project but much higher ceiling than those two. I just don't want to have to trade up for him but if he is all that's left out of the top 4 I can imagine we will be trading up into the top 10. Jackson will most likely be the best of the bunch but he cannot "win from the pocket" which is why we got rid of Tyrod. Allen at least has a chance at being an elite pocket QB (the chances are very slim though). Rudolph is even more of a project but with a much much lower ceiling. Hopefully for him he goes to a team like the Steelers and we don't hear his name again for another 3 yrs so he has time to develop.

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Rudolph doesn't belong in the conversation at 12 or even 22 IMO.   If forced to pick, I'd take Jackson because he has shown much better in reading defenses, going through progressions, and delivering from the pocket. In addition he brings an addition threat to the run game.  Allen has a bigger hill to climb in terms of NFL readiness.  Still hoping for a trade up to grab one of Rosen or Darnold.

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4 hours ago, NewEra said:

 

Yes.  It’s the reason I don’t want Mason Rudolph to be the Bills next best chance at a franchise starting qb

Honestly, your Rudolph comment doesn't make any logical sense at all if you've seen any of his tape. The guy, after assessing the field unnaturally quickly,  without hesitation throws to all parts of the field, hitting receivers in stride, with very few picks. His receivers rarely need to adjust to his throws. In fact, balls are placed where the receiver has the best chance to catch them at all levels of the field. His deep throws look like other passers' medium, his mediums look like their short. He does it consistently. He rarely has a down moment. It's pedal to the metal at all times, usually deciding games before the half. That's why some posters and nfl guys are saying he may be the best of the bunch. Just sayin...

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8 hours ago, Domdab99 said:

Rudolph shouldn't be on this poll. He's not a first round pick. Or, he shouldn't be. 

 

I wouldn't choose any of the 3 till at least #22

 

But i view all 3 of these QBs as day 2 or 3 picks

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33 minutes ago, Fan boy '92 said:

Honestly, your Rudolph comment doesn't make any logical sense at all if you've seen any of his tape. The guy, after assessing the field unnaturally quickly,  without hesitation throws to all parts of the field, hitting receivers in stride, with very few picks. His receivers rarely need to adjust to his throws. In fact, balls are placed where the receiver has the best chance to catch them at all levels of the field. His deep throws look like other passers' medium, his mediums look like their short. He does it consistently. He rarely has a down moment. It's pedal to the metal at all times, usually deciding games before the half. That's why some posters and nfl guys are saying he may be the best of the bunch. Just sayin...

Could not agree more with this statement. I would be super excited if we got Mason Rudolph. 

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9 hours ago, Bakin said:

We have reached pick 12. 

Only these 3 remain on our board. 

You must pick one. 

Who do you choose?

I wouldnt draft any of those 3...... If forced it would be a toss up between Jackson and Allen. Probably take Jackson, but would rather take BPA instead of overdrafting a QB

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35 minutes ago, Fan boy '92 said:

Honestly, your Rudolph comment doesn't make any logical sense at all if you've seen any of his tape. The guy, after assessing the field unnaturally quickly,  without hesitation throws to all parts of the field, hitting receivers in stride, with very few picks. His receivers rarely need to adjust to his throws. In fact, balls are placed where the receiver has the best chance to catch them at all levels of the field. His deep throws look like other passers' medium, his mediums look like their short. He does it consistently. He rarely has a down moment. It's pedal to the metal at all times, usually deciding games before the half. That's why some posters and nfl guys are saying he may be the best of the bunch. Just sayin...

 

No. The offense primarily gave him one read and throw decisions with lots of open receivers.

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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Rudolph doesn't belong in the conversation at 12 or even 22 IMO.   If forced to pick, I'd take Jackson because he has shown much better in reading defenses, going through progressions, and delivering from the pocket. In addition he brings an addition threat to the run game.  Allen has a bigger hill to climb in terms of NFL readiness.  Still hoping for a trade up to grab one of Rosen or Darnold.

I predict Mason Rudolph will end up with the Better NFL career over Darnold and Rosen based on there play during there NFL career. Bills should stay put and draft Rudolph at 12 and use there draft capitol. This is my opinion not sure what Mcbean will do. It’s been reported that they have scouted Rudolph hard for the last year. 

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1 minute ago, Thurmanator 12074 said:

I predict Mason Rudolph will end up with the Better NFL career over Darnold and Rosen based on there play during there NFL career. Bills should stay put and draft Rudolph at 12 and use there draft capitol. 

This is my opinion not sure what Mcbean will do. It’s been reported that they have scoured Rudolph hard for the last year. 

 

He looks like a spot starter who will primarily be a backup at the NFL level so I 100% disagree.  Rosen and Darnold are simply better prospects who have shown more.

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