Bakin Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 We have reached pick 12. Only these 3 remain on our board. You must pick one. Who do you choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Rudolph......Noooooooooooooooooooooo. If he’s the pick at 22: I’m sad. If he’s the pick at 12, I combust instantaneously 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Josh Allen He fits what they are looking for He is not supposed to be there at 12 Most upside of any qb in this draft Will be holding a clipboard for a while.....but..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Hope we have our guy before that but of those three , Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Wet dream Allen is there at 12. If so it will be an absolute homerun. If Allen is gone, then you take best defender on the board at 12, maybe trade down a few spots if you can instead, and then take Rudolph at 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said: Wet dream Allen is there at 12. If so it will be an absolute homerun. If Allen is gone, then you take best defender on the board at 12, maybe trade down a few spots if you can instead, and then take Rudolph at 22. Rather grab one of those later round QBs than draft Rudolph. If we stay with our picks I would go: DE Marcus Davenport, LB Leighton Vander Esch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) If Allen gets past 4 I'm calling everyone between 4 and 12. I wouldn't risk letting him fall to 12. As for staying at 12 and he falls there I'm all over him. If he is gone I have no problem taking Rudolph there. I have Rudolph as my 3rd QB tied with Darnold. Mayfield at 1 and Allen as my 2nd. I realise I'm not a pro but I feel Rudolph, Darnold, and Rosen are close. I have never seen a draft with so many QBs I would spend a first on. People say Rudolph is a system QB. So are Brady and Alex Smith. You just run the system they play well in. At this point I feel Darnold and Rosen have big risks. Darnold doesn't take care of the ball and Rosen has serious injury concerns as well as other reasons I don't like him as a person. Sorry I am very long winded tonight lol, trying to address the critics pre-emptively. 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Rather grab one of those later round QBs than draft Rudolph. If we stay with our picks I would go: DE Marcus Davenport, LB Leighton Vander Esch I like Rudolph but I can't argue with those two picks. But with Allen still there you would take a shot at the ceiling and draft a later round QB. After all we are keeping all of our picks. There is a part of me that would like us to stay put and also trade back into the first to make a 3rd selection on day 1. Edited April 23, 2018 by formerlyofCtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Rudolph shouldn't be on this poll. He's not a first round pick. Or, he shouldn't be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 of the three at 12 and 22? Really shake it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I went with Rudolph, only b/c I have zero interest in the other 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Rather grab one of those later round QBs than draft Rudolph. If we stay with our picks I would go: DE Marcus Davenport, LB Leighton Vander Esch I have no issue with that and then see what AJ and a new OC can do. Still think they swing for the fences but AJ and 6 high draft picks is a reasonable way to go. 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: If Allen gets past 4 I'm calling everyone between 4 and 12. I wouldn't risk letting him fall to 12. As for staying at 12 and he falls there I'm all over him. If he is gone I have no problem taking Rudolph there. I have Rudolph as my 3rd QB tied with Darnold. Mayfield at 1 and Allen as my 2nd. I realise I'm not a pro but I feel Rudolph, Darnold, and Rosen are close. I have never seen a draft with so many QBs I would spend a first on. People say Rudolph is a system QB. So are Brady and Alex Smith. You just run the system they play well in. At this point I feel Darnold and Rosen have big risks. Darnold doesn't take care of the ball and Rosen has serious injury concerns as well as other reasons I don't like him as a person. Sorry I am very long winded tonight lol, trying to address the critics pre-emptively. I like Rudolph but I can't argue with those two picks. But with Allen still there you would take a shot at the ceiling and draft a later round QB. After all we are keeping all of our picks. There is a part of me that would like us to stay put and also trade back into the first to make a 3rd selection on day 1. No thanks. If they got Allen at 12 I would be perfectly happy trading out of the first round and give up 22 for another second this year and next year. A player at 22 or in the top 10 of the second round are just as likely to succeed but at a significant discount. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan boy '92 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 hours ago, NewEra said: Rudolph......Noooooooooooooooooooooo. If he’s the pick at 22: I’m sad. If he’s the pick at 12, I combust instantaneously Have you ever seen him play? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I personally would pick a LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Can someone sell me on Allen? what else does he have asides from a cannon and stature? The only qb I can think of to compare him to is Flacco, but Flacco isn’t as mobile. I guess my question is, will he better or worse than Flacco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I'd pick BPA and take Rudolph at 22. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Fan boy '92 said: Have you ever seen him play? Yes. It’s the reason I don’t want Mason Rudolph to be the Bills next best chance at a franchise starting qb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Wilk Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 4 hours ago, NewEra said: Rudolph......Noooooooooooooooooooooo. If he’s the pick at 22: I’m sad. If he’s the pick at 12, I combust instantaneously Rudolph best kid in draft....I'm telling ya! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Allen makes the most sense in this scenario. Just three more days. I hope we nail this draft and the legend of McDermott and Bean continue to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Not Allen. It's hard to choose between Jackson and Rudolph. I don't think any should be taken at 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) I want the Baker. Might like Rudolph over Allen, but I haven't seen enough tape. I actually (for the first time in a long time) trust the Bills FO to make the right decision and get their guy. Jackson doesn't seem to fit the mold as much, but he's got some upside. I've never gotten the fuss over Darnold. I lived in LA and my friends are USC fanatics and they don't gush over him. Not many USC or UCLA QB's have lit up the NFL in the last few decades. The dark horses, Lauletta, White, Ferguson. Edited April 23, 2018 by BillsRdue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 If I had to do nothing and Allen falls to me. Even with his flaws, I have to take the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I take Allen. He's the best option of the 3. He's got the higher ceiling as a passer of the 3. I would take Jackson over Rudolph if someone had a gun to my head and it was between the 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Allen is a project but much higher ceiling than those two. I just don't want to have to trade up for him but if he is all that's left out of the top 4 I can imagine we will be trading up into the top 10. Jackson will most likely be the best of the bunch but he cannot "win from the pocket" which is why we got rid of Tyrod. Allen at least has a chance at being an elite pocket QB (the chances are very slim though). Rudolph is even more of a project but with a much much lower ceiling. Hopefully for him he goes to a team like the Steelers and we don't hear his name again for another 3 yrs so he has time to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I take Lamar but I think Buffalo would cry tears of joy if Allen fell to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) At 12 the risk of Allen is low, reward is high. You have to take him. He has more upside than Manuel. He can sit behind AJ. Lamar Jackson I really like. I have him rated higher but I don't see the Bills taking him. Edited April 23, 2018 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Allen without hesitation at that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Domdab99 said: Rudolph shouldn't be on this poll. He's not a first round pick. Or, he shouldn't be. Agreed. Allen shouldn't be in the poll either since he won't be available by #12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 one is generally agreed to be worthy of the number 1 overall pick and has once a decade phisical talent and the other 2 are borderline 2nd plus rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I find it unlikley Allen makes it out of the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 The fact that Mason Rudolph has 21 votes makes me sad. How does this happen? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Rudolph doesn't belong in the conversation at 12 or even 22 IMO. If forced to pick, I'd take Jackson because he has shown much better in reading defenses, going through progressions, and delivering from the pocket. In addition he brings an addition threat to the run game. Allen has a bigger hill to climb in terms of NFL readiness. Still hoping for a trade up to grab one of Rosen or Darnold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan boy '92 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 4 hours ago, NewEra said: Yes. It’s the reason I don’t want Mason Rudolph to be the Bills next best chance at a franchise starting qb Honestly, your Rudolph comment doesn't make any logical sense at all if you've seen any of his tape. The guy, after assessing the field unnaturally quickly, without hesitation throws to all parts of the field, hitting receivers in stride, with very few picks. His receivers rarely need to adjust to his throws. In fact, balls are placed where the receiver has the best chance to catch them at all levels of the field. His deep throws look like other passers' medium, his mediums look like their short. He does it consistently. He rarely has a down moment. It's pedal to the metal at all times, usually deciding games before the half. That's why some posters and nfl guys are saying he may be the best of the bunch. Just sayin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Personally I wouldn't take any of them at 12, but I could see the Bills grabbing Allen at 12 if he fell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 8 hours ago, Domdab99 said: Rudolph shouldn't be on this poll. He's not a first round pick. Or, he shouldn't be. I wouldn't choose any of the 3 till at least #22 But i view all 3 of these QBs as day 2 or 3 picks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, Fan boy '92 said: Honestly, your Rudolph comment doesn't make any logical sense at all if you've seen any of his tape. The guy, after assessing the field unnaturally quickly, without hesitation throws to all parts of the field, hitting receivers in stride, with very few picks. His receivers rarely need to adjust to his throws. In fact, balls are placed where the receiver has the best chance to catch them at all levels of the field. His deep throws look like other passers' medium, his mediums look like their short. He does it consistently. He rarely has a down moment. It's pedal to the metal at all times, usually deciding games before the half. That's why some posters and nfl guys are saying he may be the best of the bunch. Just sayin... Could not agree more with this statement. I would be super excited if we got Mason Rudolph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Bakin said: We have reached pick 12. Only these 3 remain on our board. You must pick one. Who do you choose? I wouldnt draft any of those 3...... If forced it would be a toss up between Jackson and Allen. Probably take Jackson, but would rather take BPA instead of overdrafting a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 35 minutes ago, Fan boy '92 said: Honestly, your Rudolph comment doesn't make any logical sense at all if you've seen any of his tape. The guy, after assessing the field unnaturally quickly, without hesitation throws to all parts of the field, hitting receivers in stride, with very few picks. His receivers rarely need to adjust to his throws. In fact, balls are placed where the receiver has the best chance to catch them at all levels of the field. His deep throws look like other passers' medium, his mediums look like their short. He does it consistently. He rarely has a down moment. It's pedal to the metal at all times, usually deciding games before the half. That's why some posters and nfl guys are saying he may be the best of the bunch. Just sayin... No. The offense primarily gave him one read and throw decisions with lots of open receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Not knowing as much as the professionals, I'm torn between Allen and Rudolph. I voted Allen as he is the higher prospect, but if I'm GM and my scouts are pushing for Rudolph I could be swayed. Just a big no on Jackson, not even an option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Rudolph doesn't belong in the conversation at 12 or even 22 IMO. If forced to pick, I'd take Jackson because he has shown much better in reading defenses, going through progressions, and delivering from the pocket. In addition he brings an addition threat to the run game. Allen has a bigger hill to climb in terms of NFL readiness. Still hoping for a trade up to grab one of Rosen or Darnold. I predict Mason Rudolph will end up with the Better NFL career over Darnold and Rosen based on there play during there NFL career. Bills should stay put and draft Rudolph at 12 and use there draft capitol. This is my opinion not sure what Mcbean will do. It’s been reported that they have scouted Rudolph hard for the last year. Edited April 23, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: I predict Mason Rudolph will end up with the Better NFL career over Darnold and Rosen based on there play during there NFL career. Bills should stay put and draft Rudolph at 12 and use there draft capitol. This is my opinion not sure what Mcbean will do. It’s been reported that they have scoured Rudolph hard for the last year. He looks like a spot starter who will primarily be a backup at the NFL level so I 100% disagree. Rosen and Darnold are simply better prospects who have shown more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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