HailMary Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Not a secret to anyone but we'll need to get to 4 to 5 to get to 2. Get Elway on the phone Monday morning. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2770633-saquon-barkley-rumors-giants-view-rb-as-near-perfect-prospect-in-2018-nfl-draft?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 he reminds me of McCoy but heavier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Oh, so the price of the #2 pick just went up again with this declaration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 But he grew up a Jets fan Great fit for them if they take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastorMKC Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 The Browns have not interviewed or set up visits with either Barkley/Chubb that tells me we are going QB #1 (Darnold) and either Ward or a trade down with #4 ... The Giants can stay at 2 or trade down with Denver for #5 and still get Barkley ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Forget #2. Focus on 4. Sell the Browns on the need for a franchise LT (McGlinchey) to protect their recently-drafted franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Double edged sword. We don’t want them to take a QB, but we also don’t want them to love someone so much they won’t trade back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastorMKC Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 The Browns won't address OT until the 2nd rd. or later IMO they really like Coleman at LT and Hubbard who they signed from Pittsburgh at RT ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I see the perfect scenario being Giants stay put and take Barkley, we trade w the Browns for that #4 spot and get our qb AND pay a lot less than getting to #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Barkley is worth the early pick. Whether Browns take him at one and still get their QB or Ginats think Eli can carry them and want to win now.. He is going to make any team better immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 The giants have to sell that they LOVE someone. And preferably someone that would be available a couple picks back. Im sure they don’t mind taking him high but calling him near perfect screams “up those offers” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 IF this is true, the Giants should NEVER play poker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Barkley is a perfect fit in NY...I'd honestly be surpised if the Giants trade that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Good let the jets take Allen and we get Rosen at 6 or 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I think we'll trade up to #4 and I expect both Rosen and Darnold to still be available. The Giants have quite a decision ahead of them. It's either Barkley or Chubb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I believe that the giants will take a QB at 2 and Brakley will not be taken in the top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Robotulism Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 He's ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 this fuels the other thread about the Bills, Browns, and Giants doing a 3 way deal where Giants don’t drop past 4 so they don’t lose out on the chance to draft Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Augie said: Oh, so the price of the #2 pick just went up again with this declaration? Fine by me. That’s means the giants won’t take a QB. If the browns take Allen it would almost assure us of landing Darnold, Mayfield or Rosen. Beane wouldn’t let that opportunity to pass him by. He could then just trade to 4-7 and get one of the best 3 QBs in the draft. Worst case scenario for the Bills would be if the Giants loved a or a couple of the QBs. The love for Saquon is nothing but good for the Bills imo. Only thing that would make it difficult is if McBeane is only interested in 2 QBs, which I hope isn’t the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 They are crazy if they think an RB is more valuable than picks. RBs probably get injured more than any other position and have short careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Probably the safest pick in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Fine by me. That’s means the giants won’t take a QB. If the browns take Allen it would almost assure us of landing Darnold, Mayfield or Rosen. Beane wouldn’t let that opportunity to pass him by. He could then just trade to 4-7 and get one of the best 3 QBs in the draft. Worst case scenario for the Bills would be if the Giants loved a or a couple of the QBs. The love for Saquon is nothing but good for the Bills imo. Only thing that would make it difficult is if McBeane is only interested in 2 QBs, which I hope isn’t the case. Ya if the Giants are going to try to completely screw us I would rather trade with the Browns at 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Head will explode, rabbit holes gone into.....Blue Pill? Red Pill? Thankfully soon this will be over........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, NewEra said: Fine by me. That’s means the giants won’t take a QB. If the browns take Allen it would almost assure us of landing Darnold, Mayfield or Rosen. Beane wouldn’t let that opportunity to pass him by. He could then just trade to 4-7 and get one of the best 3 QBs in the draft. Worst case scenario for the Bills would be if the Giants loved a or a couple of the QBs. The love for Saquon is nothing but good for the Bills imo. Only thing that would make it difficult is if McBeane is only interested in 2 QBs, which I hope isn’t the case. I suspect the love for Saquan is exaggerated as part of a smokescreen, but who knows at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, billspro said: They are crazy if they think an RB is more valuable than picks. RBs probably get injured more than any other position and have short careers. I suppose you think taking Jamarcus russel over Adrian Peterson made sense too? Barkley is the best back to come out since Peterson. I get what you are saying. I’m against drafting RBs early in general. But when you get a special prospect (which Barkley and AP are/were) it’s a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Unless we are able to make the big trade up with the Giants I actually hope they take Rosen. If they don't, the Jets probably will. I don't want to have to deal with him for the next 10/15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 The only reason something like this gets out is because they want it to get out. Driving up the price for #2, or trying to get the Browns to get him at #1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Jets take Rosen, thankfully, Baker or Allen at 4 por favor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 44 minutes ago, JimBob2232 said: I suppose you think taking Jamarcus russel over Adrian Peterson made sense too? Barkley is the best back to come out since Peterson. I get what you are saying. I’m against drafting RBs early in general. But when you get a special prospect (which Barkley and AP are/were) it’s a different story. I would much rather have three first round picks if I was them. I don't really get your QB point. They could probably get both of our first rounds this year and a first round next year. When you factor in the cap it makes it even worse picking a RB. They would have Barkley for four years, with a very expensive 5th year option. Then they would probably have to pay him over 17 million per season after that if he becomes a special player. I would much rather have 3 first round picks even if I was guaranteed he would be as good as Peterson. Almost all of the Super Bowl Champions the past decade run a RB by committee approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, PirateHookerMD said: The only reason something like this gets out is because they want it to get out. Driving up the price for #2, or trying to get the Browns to get him at #1. Everyone just assumes the Giants can trade out of 2 and get a bounty of picks because of the Bills. Beane isnt going up to 2 unless his preferred QB is there. Giants are letting Cleveland know they aren’t getting Barkley at 4. Darnold is probably the only QB that teams will give up a bounty to the giants for. This signals to me that the Giants want to trade out of 2, but it takes 2 to tango and their potential trade partners want Darnold. Edited April 16, 2018 by BuffaloRebound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 hours ago, billspro said: They are crazy if they think an RB is more valuable than picks. RBs probably get injured more than any other position and have short careers. With guys like Zeke and Fournette busting out the last few years it makes Barkley enticing. Toss in once Manning moves on and I don't think they bring Beckham back they'll need a new face of the franchise. Barkley could be that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 going #2 overall means he's in the Eric Dickerson/Ladanian Tomlinson category. Is it really so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Barkley isn't a Peterson or Fournette level prospect. He's closer to a McCafferty. The overall quality of this draft at the top just isn't as good as years past and Barkley is the player that gets the hype with all the QB flaw discussion. The treasure trove for #2 is better for the Giants, who completely overhauled a front office the second they entertained not sticking with Eli. Darnold is the consensus number 1 and the Giants have to make sure the Browns actually take him before they trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFront_USAF Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 If we can't get to #2 for a reasonable price, the Giants taking Barkley would help us. Assuming qbs go 1 and 3 then, we could swing a cheaper trade for 4 or 5, maybe even later and still have our pick of 2 of the 4 quarterbacks. If the Broncos pass on one as well, that opens us up to move to 6 for our guy. If the rumors are even somewhat correct, and Allen and Mayfield go to the Browns and Jets, we could have our choice of the top 2 guys without paying a stupid amount of picks. I would be ecstatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 7 hours ago, tannins said: Not a secret to anyone but we'll need to get to 4 to 5 to get to 2. Get Elway on the phone Monday morning. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2770633-saquon-barkley-rumors-giants-view-rb-as-near-perfect-prospect-in-2018-nfl-draft?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national It is indeed a secret ... to everyone, including the writer of the article, who is saying that IF they don't trade down and IF they don't go QB then they would go Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 5 hours ago, JimBob2232 said: I suppose you think taking Jamarcus russel over Adrian Peterson made sense too? Barkley is the best back to come out since Peterson. I get what you are saying. I’m against drafting RBs early in general. But when you get a special prospect (which Barkley and AP are/were) it’s a different story. Barkley is the safe pick but doesn't mean it's the right pick. If the Giants truly believe in Eli and think he will be able to play at a high level for at least three more years then you could make a case for Barkley. AP was a great running back, probably the best back to come out in the last 20 years or so. But even with that being the case how many playoff games did the Vikings win with him? One? Hitting on a QB can get you to multiple Super Bowls. It's worth the risk even if you end up busting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 7 hours ago, tannins said: Not a secret to anyone but we'll need to get to 4 to 5 to get to 2. Get Elway on the phone Monday morning. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2770633-saquon-barkley-rumors-giants-view-rb-as-near-perfect-prospect-in-2018-nfl-draft?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national we won't need to go up that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 4 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: Everyone just assumes the Giants can trade out of 2 and get a bounty of picks because of the Bills. Beane isnt going up to 2 unless his preferred QB is there. Giants are letting Cleveland know they aren’t getting Barkley at 4. Darnold is probably the only QB that teams will give up a bounty to the giants for. This signals to me that the Giants want to trade out of 2, but it takes 2 to tango and their potential trade partners want Darnold. There's no reason to think that Beane doesn't have two or even three or four QBs he would take at #2 if he could get there. He wouldn't have so consistently assembled draft capital this last year if there was only one guy he wanted and that guy might well be gone at #1. Agreed that the Giants want the Browns to want to trade up right along with the teams that want a QB there. The more suitors the bigger the dowry stands a chance of being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Doc said: Forget #2. Focus on 4. Sell the Browns on the need for a franchise LT (McGlinchey) to protect their recently-drafted franchise QB. More like Nelson, 4 is too high for McGlinchey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 13 hours ago, Virgil said: Double edged sword. We don’t want them to take a QB, but we also don’t want them to love someone so much they won’t trade back. Because the more we give up the higher the odds our guy succeeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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