turftoe Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Why wait that long? Just give this up today and get it done: I get the hidden message. 2 first and 2 second rounders for pick number 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I would be interested to see how many throws Rosen actually attempted while “on the move” vs Mayfield. To my untrained eye watching them both, Mayfield ran around a lot trying to make a play after things broke down (and often did). Rosen was more inclined to stand in the pocket. I don’t think this stat is an issue if the offense is built accordingly but man he looks like he’s in quicksand moving around the pocket. If whatever offense he’s in doesn’t get it out fast, he’s going to take some hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Is there anything that would prevent a prospect from declining a team's request to work out? Can't see why a player couldn't just say no. Asking because if a player didn't want to come to Buffalo, could it be as simple as saying to Beane, "thank you for asking, but I'm not interested in working out for you" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I have a high level business meeting on the Starship with Sammy and AHMEN I will know the Bills draft plans today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meazy26 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Darnold/Rosen... buy any means necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 did the bills bring zay jones to LA to work him out? Was that why he was out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Just because I'm not sure what other thread to put this in, but per their NFL.com draft profiles: Rosen completed just 42.4 percent of his throws when forced to move. Mayfield completed 67 percent when on the move. Would not have thought there would be such a big difference between the two. I suspect one ran a pro offense (behind a crappy O-line) and the other ran a college spread offense (against crappy competition).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meazy26 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: did the bills bring zay jones to LA to work him out? Was that why he was out there? That's what popped into my brain when I read this report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I think the Bills would really like that # 2 spot, reason being that they are comfortable with either Darnold (on the off chance the Browns don't jump on him) or Rosen. Maybe like the Iggles re Goff or Wentz. And I think its quite possible they value Darnold over Rosen, tho if so it speaks to their risk appetite and projections more than demonstrated ability IMO. I think that if the Giants are not taking a QB, there is a very good chance that a deal gets done with the Bills. I'm inclined to think that they are going QB however and will not be trading down to 12. Depending on just who these teams like at the QB position, there could be the possibility of a three way trade with maybe Indy. I think its unlikely G-Men would accept #12 if they Want a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 34 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Is that a pic of our OL The hay is more mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: Is there anything that would prevent a prospect from declining a team's request to work out? Can't see why a player couldn't just say no. Asking because if a player didn't want to come to Buffalo, could it be as simple as saying to Beane, "thank you for asking, but I'm not interested in working out for you" ? Leaf didn't show up for the Colts interview at the Combine. These guys aren't slaves, they can do whatever they want to do, but if you are interviewing for the same job with a handful of companies who all talk to each other, you better be darn sure you are willing to live with the consequences if you tell one of them no without an offer in hand. 10 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: The hay is more mobile. Masters of the roll technique. Edited March 21, 2018 by Chuck Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 52 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Good. Now at the owners meeting get yourself into a position (No. 2) overall to make sure you get him. When is the owners meeting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, aristocrat said: did the bills bring zay jones to LA to work him out? Was that why he was out there? Woah. Interesting concept and I could see Zay being willing to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: It's nice to see Beane is starting to get around to evaluating the QBs. It's only been 11 months. He obviously has the scouting reports but he hasn't had 11 months to get to sit down and talk football or work them out in private. The Rams-Titans and Browns-Eagles trades in 2016 didn't happen until April of that year. I'm glad the Bills are not rushing the PROCESS! Beane and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 And they had a workout with Trubisky before last years draft, with El Pegual to boot. I'd expect they work out a bunch of QBs, so it still doesn't mean they'll have a chance to draft Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I hope we take Rosen. I'm not quite sure why people don't like him. Good accuracy and very technically polished. Great deep ball. Themain issue I have seen from him is trying to do too much and throwing into too tight of windows. I'll sign up for that weakness after a few years of Tyrod Taylor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Watch to see who comes to Buffalo on visits........I am guessing they will try to get all of the top 4 to visit. Some might not be totally willing or interested...and that will reflect in the view the Bills have of that candidate. E Manning did not want to play in San Diego post draft....hence the famous Phillip Rivers trade. Players preference will influence what happens here.........didn't Rosen say he didn't want to go to the Browns? One final comment.....even if we draft at 12....Lamar Jackson looks to be another TT type QB....if they didn't like TT, why would they even consider Jackson. So, if its #12 where they pick....it will be either Rudolph or Allen if he is still there...my choice would be Rudolph in any event at #12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 48 minutes ago, wppete said: When is the owners meeting? Next week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Good. Now at the owners meeting get yourself into a position (No. 2) overall to make sure you get him. No thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 54 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Leaf didn't show up for the Colts interview at the Combine. These guys aren't slaves, they can do whatever they want to do, but if you are interviewing for the same job with a handful of companies who all talk to each other, you better be darn sure you are willing to live with the consequences if you tell one of them no without an offer in hand. Masters of the roll technique. Real space eaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Why wait that long? Just give this up today and get it done: This looks like Dwight Schrute farms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 This is promising, I kinda like Rosen. A little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, bigK14094 said: Watch to see who comes to Buffalo on visits........I am guessing they will try to get all of the top 4 to visit. Some might not be totally willing or interested...and that will reflect in the view the Bills have of that candidate. E Manning did not want to play in San Diego post draft....hence the famous Phillip Rivers trade. Players preference will influence what happens here.........didn't Rosen say he didn't want to go to the Browns? One final comment.....even if we draft at 12....Lamar Jackson looks to be another TT type QB....if they didn't like TT, why would they even consider Jackson. So, if its #12 where they pick....it will be either Rudolph or Allen if he is still there...my choice would be Rudolph in any event at #12. None of the players drafted by the Bills in 2017 were brought in for visits. The vast majority of Whaley picks were brought in, but things are done differently at OBD now. Lamar Jackson might " look" like Tyrod Taylor. He's a very different QB and a much better passer overall. They didn't like TT because he has never improved from his College days and has hit his ceiling as a pro. I wouldn't take Rudolph at all. He's a middling prospect and not worth a pick imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 48 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: None of the players drafted by the Bills in 2017 were brought in for visits. The vast majority of Whaley picks were brought in, but things are done differently at OBD now. Lamar Jackson might " look" like Tyrod Taylor. He's a very different QB and a much better passer overall. They didn't like TT because he has never improved from his College days and has hit his ceiling as a pro. I wouldn't take Rudolph at all. He's a middling prospect and not worth a pick imo. Different GMs but also a different Position. They absolutely are going to bring in their future face of the fanchise and talk to these QB prospects as much as they can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 #icey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Don't worry guys, "Trappdaddy123" has confirmed that we are trading up for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Don't worry guys, "Trappdaddy123" has confirmed that we are trading up for sure. Who is Trappdaddy? And better yet, why are you following him on Twitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, kdiggz said: Who is Trappdaddy? And better yet, why are you following him on Twitter? No kidding... *follows @trappdaddy123 on Twitter* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Who is Trappdaddy? And better yet, why are you following him on Twitter? I choose to believe that he's a rock solid source... Please happen. I think Rosen is a franchise changer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Who is Trappdaddy? And better yet, why are you following him on Twitter? Also here's MOAR speculation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Also here's MOAR speculation "Thanks for the #2 pick. Nice doing business with you." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I don’t have a lot of Bills info usually. But I have info on Rosen from a college connection who heard about his Bills workout. Just a small thing. Fwiw the Pegulas love him. They are REALLY into tennis and feel it’s a huge benefit for him as a pro QB. And Rosen really likes the culture of the team and the minority female owner. They got along really well. That’s all I know. Peace! 2 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t have a lot of Bills info usually. But I have info on Rosen from a college connection who heard about his Bills workout. Just a small thing. Fwiw the Pegulas love him. They are REALLY into tennis and feel it’s a huge benefit for him as a pro QB. And Rosen really likes the culture of the team and the minority female owner. They got along really well. That’s all I know. Peace! Rosen loves the underdog and wants to take down the Pats. It's the perfect fit! Plus McD will like that he went to Catholic school. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I thought Rosen was Jewish. 6 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Rosen loves the underdog and wants to take down the Pats. It's the perfect fit! Plus McD will like that he went to Catholic school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Well I love Rosen, so let's will this to be true and go get our guy!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, turftoe said: I thought Rosen was Jewish. He is but he did attend a catholic school at one point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, TOboy said: Well I love Rosen, so let's will this to be true and go get our guy!!!! I was so pissed when they cancelled this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, turftoe said: I thought Rosen was Jewish. He's atheist. His ancestry is Jewish but he personally doesn't believe in God. He went to St John Bosco which is the best football program in the country and which also happens to be a Catholic high school. He said he enjoyed the masses and seeing a different perspective to his own beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, turftoe said: I thought Rosen was Jewish. You don't need to be Catholic to attend a Catholic school. You just need $$$$$$$$$$$$$ to afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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