Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) So, with the AJM signing, does it make sense that we might not go QB with the first pick or even move up? I think there's a chance Vita Vea might still be there at 12. I really think this kid is a once every 10 year draft kind of talent. Does he fill a big need on the defensive line? Or, do you think signing Star Lotulelei eliminated the Bills thoughts on D line in the first round? Edited March 16, 2018 by Houston's #1 Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) No defensive tackle out there can single handedly impact a game the way a quarterback can. This is the year to get the quarterback. We have the ammo to do it. I would hate to see the Bills do all this work just to stop short of the end goal which is finding our franchise qb who can lead us to the playoffs and beyond for the next 15 years. Edited March 16, 2018 by Zebrastripes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 It makes perfect sense if you want the team to go 8-8 every season 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 can he throw? 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 UGH! We are getting a QB...Geez!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 He doesn't offer much as a pass rusher, why pick a one dimensional player with a top 12 pick? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 No! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Unless something happens that isn't going to (Barkley / Fitzpatrick / Chubb) falling to 12, OBD is going to see a fan revolt if they don't go QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 OK - QB it is! Sorry, guys!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 It simply has ot be a bold move up for a QB.... 20+ years of sub par QB play for this franchise.. Most of us old timers can not stomach the thought of passing up a top QB for anything.. The Bills are a lot like a library book when it comes to franchise QB's... We are overdue (Anybody use libraries anymore?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: It makes perfect sense if you want the team to go 8-8 every season ...maybe a punter at #12 gets us to 9-7 then?............. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Beane's manoeuvres are all about QB IMO. Having said that they could add another DT, just not in the first and depending on whether or not they are successful in moving further up the board. With Star on board I dont see why Vita. If we keep our picks I could see D. Payne if he falls to the second round. With Star eating space Payne could turn into a good 3 tech IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: OK - QB it is! Sorry, guys!! The only way it's not a QB is if Beane and McD see something in AJM that the rest of us aren't seeing. Supposedly, Hue Jackson really wanted AJM as his starter. Maybe McD does too. Maybe he thinks AJM is our franchise QB and we don't need to look further. But that's hard to imagine. Given our lack of a proven starter - and this being the "year of the quarterback" - how do you not draft one when you have as much draft capital as the Bills? Maybe AJM is better than most NFL talent evaluators seem to think. Do you stake your team's future and your career on a "maybe"? I wouldn't. Edited March 16, 2018 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Then why would we have just backed the Brinks truck to sign Meatball and Star? McCarron would not have a contract with playing time tiers... Not going to happen even in an alternate dimension. QB guaranteed. Anything else is like: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1 odds. And if that shooting star happens to hit, I expect a lynching shortly thereafter. Edited March 16, 2018 by simool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Unless something happens that isn't going to (Barkley / Fitzpatrick / Chubb) falling to 12, OBD is going to see a fan revolt if they don't go QB. I'll "trust the process," but I want Rosen or Mayfield. I think Bean has a QB or 2 in mind and they will work to get that guy. If that guy is not available for whatever reason, I'd be fine with Vea or a LB and going w/ McCarron (seems like a lot of due diligence was done on him) and a QB later in the draft. Plus, we can always trade 2019 picks for Foles post-draft. Ideally, we get a QB in the top of the 1st round, and a DT like Tim Settle later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 How has this type of Draft strategy been working out for the Browns? How did it work for the Bills in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 the only player I think they might jump at if there at 12 is maybe LB Roquan Smith...if its DT then I'd say Da' Ron Payne...but Im pretty sure , whether they sit or move up, it'll be QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) He'd be top 3 on my list if we had to stay there. Along with Calvin Ridley and Roquan Smith. Edited March 16, 2018 by CuddyDark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollBillsRoll Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 37 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: The only way it's not a QB is if Beane and McD see something in AJM that the rest of us aren't seeing. Supposedly, Hue Jackson really wanted AJM as his starter. Maybe McD does too. Maybe he thinks AJM is our franchise QB and we don't need to look further. But that's hard to imagine. Given our lack of a proven starter - and this being the "year of the quarterback" - how do you not draft one when you have as much draft capital as the Bills? Maybe AJM is better than most NFL talent evaluators seem to think. Do you stake your team's future and your career on a "maybe"? I wouldn't. Are kids right out of college, who have never stepped on an nfl field not a "maybe"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 29 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said: the only player I think they might jump at if there at 12 is maybe LB Roquan Smith...if its DT then I'd say Da' Ron Payne...but Im pretty sure , whether they sit or move up, it'll be QB I agree with this. Roquan could be an elite MLB in McD's Defense. He's the only non-QB they'd consider at #12 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 We have two monster DT’s already. Doesn’t make much sense at 12 imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Or we can draft a kicker @12 Edited March 16, 2018 by Starr Almighty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Vea is a good player, but teams continue to get burned drafting guys like him and Danny Shelton early. I think he is going to be very good player, but I'm not sure if he's a once in a lifetime guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I give it a 90% chance that they take a QB with their first pick and 10% chance that they make sure they get Tremaine Edmunds or Roquon Smith. I can't see them going in any other direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Is there any chance that the trade up to 12 is the only trade up that Beane wanted to get his QB? I have a sneaky suspicion that Mason Rudolph is the guy they are targeting, and they feel he wouldn't be there at 21, as Arizona may take him or Pittsburgh (they had tons of reps at his Pro Day, which could be a smokescreen). I thought the knock on him was his arm, but I read an article by Greg Gabriel that said he had a strong arm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elltrain22 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Doug Whaley is that you?? Sorry, but this organization isn't privy to anything but a top QB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 If you're the #1 bills fan in houston, I weep for the Bills fans in houston. Turrble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, PIZ said: Is there any chance that the trade up to 12 is the only trade up that Beane wanted to get his QB? I have a sneaky suspicion that Mason Rudolph is the guy they are targeting, and they feel he wouldn't be there at 21, as Arizona may take him or Pittsburgh (they had tons of reps at his Pro Day, which could be a smokescreen). I thought the knock on him was his arm, but I read an article by Greg Gabriel that said he had a strong arm? No way that Rudolph goes in the top 20 IMO. I'd be very shocked. I could maybe get the argument if Lamar was their guy; he could potentially get taken in the top 20, but I doubt Buffalo is taking either of them at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 hour ago, ddaryl said: (Anybody use libraries anymore?) I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I do. Freak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Sorry, no fat $#*^s until Day 2 at earliest. Day 1 is reserved for a phenom QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Dude there is zero chance we aren't moving up for a franchise qb. You get one shot every ten years to get a top guy without giving away future 1st rounders and tons of other things. Beane and McD are fired in three years max if they don't produce, and the only way to do that is-- well everybody knows what that is. Vea is a monster for sure, and the combine confirmed it. The next Ngata, would love to have him, we just won't be picking in that middle range where he'll go. Funny I saw a mock that had him dropping to us and us passing on him with both picks, he went like 24 or 25. It happened with Wilfork, he was ranked top 10 overall picks and dropped to the Pats at 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Man I remember early mocks having Vita fall to the 20s. Fun while it lasted. Would love him on our team, but there is no way we are taking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: So, with the AJM signing, does it make sense that we might not go QB with the first pick or even move up? I think there's a chance Vita Vea might still be there at 12. I really think this kid is a once every 10 year draft kind of talent. Does he fill a big need on the defensive line? Or, do you think signing Star Lotulelei eliminated the Bills thoughts on D line in the first round? Great topic! thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) How many Super Bowls did Marcus Stroud and John Henderson win? Got to go for a QB at 12. Edited March 16, 2018 by NewDayBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 What if Cleveland, NY and the Colts draft QB's? I'm guessing the Bills like two guys from this draft, if both are gone I don't want them taking Jackson or Allen just to take a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, NewDayBills said: How many Super Bowls did Marcus Stroud and John Henderson win? Got to go for a QB at 12. Somebody mentioned Ngata a bit earlier...even him was not the key for BAL winning a S Bowl, in MHO it was acombaintion of the ¨lights shut off¨ cooling SFR DST and non-call interference on SFR in the EZ , otherwise almost everybody would´ve acknowledged the importance of a QB (Kaep) winning a Lomabrdi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaLoko said: Somebody mentioned Ngata a bit earlier...even him was not the key for BAL winning a S Bowl, in MHO it was acombaintion of the ¨lights shut off¨ cooling SFR DST and non-call interference on SFR in the EZ , otherwise almost everybody would´ve acknowledged the importance of a QB (Kaep) winning a Lomabrdi... Let's hypothetically say that we don't go QB at 12 (highly unlikely), but let's pretend. Rashaan Evans is my favorite non-QB prospect in the entire draft. Forget Haloti Ngata, I want Ray Lewis. Guy is intense, incredibly explosive, he will be the best LB in the draft and he would fill a huge void on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, NewDayBills said: Let's hypothetically say that we don't go QB at 12 (highly unlikely), but let's pretend. Rashaan Evans is my favorite non-QB prospect in the entire draft. Forget Haloti Ngata, I want Ray Lewis. Guy is intense, incredibly explosive, he will be the best LB in the draft and he would fill a huge void on defense. I like that scenario too, if they for some reason ranging from too steep of a price to trade up to ¨their guy¨@QB taken too early, need to stay put at 12, they better get a freakish Defensive guy right there. If you account for ~ 5 QBs, ~ 1 RB , ~ 2DL, ~ 1DB, (in bold I highlight positions which we don´t need any more) taken before 12, we are talking about getting one of the 2 top LBs! which has to be a monster pick to me!!! things looking up for our guys!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 9 hours ago, ddaryl said: It simply has ot be a bold move up for a QB.... 20+ years of sub par QB play for this franchise.. Most of us old timers can not stomach the thought of passing up a top QB for anything.. The Bills are a lot like a library book when it comes to franchise QB's... We are overdue (Anybody use libraries anymore?) What the hells a library?.....can I google it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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