Putin Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I still can't believe we got a 3rd round pick for him , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Putin said: I still can't believe we got a 3rd round pick for him , he can play the Eagles won with two nobodies that ran a perfect system, so anything can happen if you try to adapt to reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, row_33 said: he can play the Eagles won with two nobodies that ran a perfect system, so anything can happen if you try to adapt to reality That nobody was going for the league MVP before he got hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Gugny said: 8-8 7-9 9-7 (backing into playoffs) We (generally speaking) only consider this "success," because we're Bills fans. That is a crappy three seasons and I, personally, do not consider it a successful run. That's not all on Tyrod. It's a team game. And this team stunk the entire time he was here. right. it's all a matter of perspective. we were a .500 team before he arrived and we were a .500 team during his tenure. the poster who said we backed into the playoffs is correct, if not for Andy Dalton, it wouldn't have happened. now, if your Cleveland and he plays .500 ball you will view him as an overwhelming success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Putin said: That nobody was going for the league MVP before he got hurt that was a SYSTEM victory, plain and simple, any decent QB could have filled in for the Eagles, didn't even need a decent QB now the opposition will be ready for it in the season coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 No! We made the playoffs. Wait a minute.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, row_33 said: that was a SYSTEM victory, plain and simple, any decent QB could have filled in for the Eagles, didn't even need a decent QB now the opposition will be ready for it in the season coming up. Really? Your telling me Tyrod would have come in and would have done what Foles win the SB ? There's no way in hell Tyrod could have made half of the throws that Foles made system or not 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 wouldn't say it was an overwhelming success. i would say it was a moderate one. they took another teams unproven backup and then.... he won slightly more than he lost we never broke the bank for him made the playoffs and then turned said backup into the 1st pick of the 3rd round. which could potentially be ammo for the future franchise guy. i'm cool with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Made the playoffs. Wasnt great...but was a high character guy. He could have been a reason some of the new coaching staff took the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 The first 2 years were failures, the last year was a success. 33% success rate isn’t very good at all, so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 How could they not be considered a success. He was signed as a backup with upside to compete. He competed and won the starting job, and led us to the playoffs... he doesn’t have to be the long term solution for me to consider his time here a success.... I think for what he was, his time was about the best that we could have hoped for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) not a success. not a complete failure either. success would of been developing in to the franchise guy this team has lacked for far too many years to count. the playoffs may of never happened if not for the defense playing as they did early on in the season or they could very well finished 5-11/6-10 and not sniffed the playoffs. that said, he was part of the team that won enough to have an opportunity for a wild card and ended the drought and I am grateful for that. you have to also credit andy dalton and the bengals for their help in getting the bills in to the post season, made for some real excitement at the end of the season. the first year gave me hope, the second season I started to question and last season I lost all hope he would be the future. I would not really rate him as successful yet I wish him well as the browns stop gap where maybe there when their future (likely drafted rookie) is ready to take over he can accept a back up role? Edited March 12, 2018 by DaBillsFanSince1973 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, bobobonators said: How did 3 OC’s get fired? One became a HC bc of this offense. Was A Lynn retained? No. Ergo he was fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 To everyone on the fence, I deliberately didn’t add that as an option because I feel most people would choose that one. Its a tough question but you have to make a choice: success or failure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 A success. Won more than he lost ( I think), got the drought off the franchise's back. Although that took some fortuitous happenings: the Bills were 9-7 under Orton in 2014 as well but missed the posteseason. For what Taylor is, it's a ( modest ) success. The new FO realized his ceiling had been reached and moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: To everyone on the fence, I deliberately didn’t add that as an option because I feel most people would choose that one. Its a tough question but you have to make a choice: success or failure? or not vote at all. Its a mixed bag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: or not vote at all. Its a mixed bag. LOL sounds like a presidential election 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: or not vote at all. Its a mixed bag. why I did not vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Because the Bills made the playoffs, you can say the Tyrod era represented incremental progress. I would not personally characterize it as either success or failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Yes. He helped pave the path that lead the Bills to McBeane. Thank you TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I get a lot of flak for this but i think he will have a career year with Gordon and Jarvis. Browns will probably get Barkley but you have to imagine they pass play more than the bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I’m truly shocked by the number of people calling his time period a success. Just shows you how bad the suck has been since Kelly retired. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenInLight Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I call it yes. He was likely the best QB we have had on the roster since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Only measure of success is a SB title IMO. So, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) I wouldn't exactly call scoring 3 points in the Playoffs, then being traded to the worst team in the NFL a success. I wouldn't call it a complete failure either. Tyrod instead of still being a backup, got to start for a borderline playoff team. Then on his last year with that team, the cards played out to actually favor the Bills and they crawled into the Playoffs making him look interesting to a few teams so he could continue on. The Bills pulled a 3rd rounder and snuck into the Playoffs and that was a win. It wasn't being successful because we are now in transition from it. If Tyrod had a successful year with Bills they wouldn't of traded him. Tyrod can have flashes of being good. I think he actually can win some games for you. I also think he can manage a stalled out offensive games and do nothing to win it for you. I seen that at least a few times last season. I think Tyrod can win some games for the Browns. I also think if other teams defensive plans get in his head he will run some stalled out games. Edited March 12, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Dude... we broke a 17 year playoff drought. Of course it was... duuuuuuhhhhhh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 5 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: Tyrod’s record as a starter was 23-22. This stat includes playoffs which means after 17 years without a QB that could say this, it WAS a success IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 You have to define "success" for the conversation to have any meaning. If measured by whether or not we had a chance to win the Superbowl, no, Tyrod was never successful. We never even had a chance to win a playoff game with him, let alone a Superbowl. Some of us were saying that for the entirety of his stay in Buffalo. His ceiling is what it is and lucking backwards into a wildcard berth for a playoff loss is about as far as Tyrod is going to take you. No way that can be considered "successful". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 It was definitely a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 51 minutes ago, Mark80 said: Only measure of success is a SB title IMO. So, no. So Kelly’s H.O.F. Career was a failure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Dude... we broke a 17 year playoff drought. Of course it was... duuuuuuhhhhhh..... THE TEAM DID sorry caps lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: This stat includes playoffs which means after 17 years without a QB that could say this, it WAS a success IMHO. Not success Looked worse than Tj Yates, Brock Osweiler, and Tim Tebow did. Edited March 12, 2018 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, TigerJ said: Because the Bills made the playoffs, you can say the Tyrod era represented incremental progress. I would not personally characterize it as either success or failure. 8-8 to 7-9 to 9-7 (backing into playoffs) is not quite incremental progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 No. Mediocrity is not success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Wins and losses are a function of the team, so I'll leave that out of the discussion. I voted for failure for one simple reason that everyone keeps beating around the bush about. Taylor was incapable of carrying the team on his back when the team needed him to do exactly that. There were many games where the Bills defense and special teams absolutely stymied opposing teams offenses and Taylor did nothing. When teams schemed to make him beat them as a passer, he couldn't do it. Some QB's aren't good at the two minute drill. Tyrod looks inept whether under the constraint of the clock or not. At his position, I can't rate him as anything other than failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 It’s hard to label anyone who had to play within the Rex Ryan Clown Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 For me, no. It was not a success. We were no better than we were during any of the years in the drought. We were just as mediocre as before: not bad enough to get a good draft pick but not good to have a realistic shot at the superbowl. The definition of mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 If mediocrity equals success, yes. If not, no. Im a lose the battle win the war type guy and TT only won about half his battles, except in the playoffs where he won and will win zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Negative. The Tyrod Taylor era is the same as the Rex Ryan era - a big waste of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Of course it was a success. The Bills broke the drought and he left the team in much better shape than when he got here. There is a process in sports that teams go through (sorry to use that word). You usually don’t go from out of the playoffs to champion (I realize that just happened). You usually have to be tested some. The Bills are AT LEAST a step ahead of where they were when he joined the team. I don’t know how that can be considered anything but successful? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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