YoloinOhio Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Edited February 10, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Never thought it was a country club atmosphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Wow laying the wood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I’ll take 5 rings. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I was listening to it. Thought it was interesting. Chris Long was on the episode before this and said he’s having way more fun as an eagle as opposed to a Pat as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 As a fan, I'll take the 5 rings over 1 and some fun... (although I'm obviously not an NFL player). I get what hes saying though. You only live once and nobody wants to be miserable for large chunks of their life (not saying Pats players necessarily are). Ive said for years though, that if not for the winning Belichick would never get away with treating players the way he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Pats take on projects as a last chance agreement, they aren’t !@#$ing around like the rest of the division for decades now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 If you can't cheat 'em, hate 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: I was listening to it. Thought it was interesting. Chris Long was on the episode before this and said he’s having way more fun as an eagle as opposed to a Pat as well. Chris Long should be having more fun. He was literally in New England to do 1 thing. I believe Bellichick only wanted him to be a 3rd down pass rusher and his snap count was dramatically reduced. But...it worked. that is why Long left. He knew he had more 3 down football in him but that wasn’t going to happen in New England. But Long knew exactly what he signed up for in New England. you don’t hear Chris Hogan saying he would prefer the Rex Ryan Fun Days do you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 But yet free agents keep signing with them for discounted rates because it seems winning fixes everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Chris Long should be having more fun. He was literally in New England to do 1 thing. I believe Bellichick only wanted him to be a 3rd down pass rusher and his snap count was dramatically reduced. But...it worked. that is why Long left. He knew he had more 3 down football in him but that wasn’t going to happen in New England. But Long knew exactly what he signed up for in New England. you don’t hear Chris Hogan saying he would prefer the Rex Ryan Fun Days do you? Lane didn’t say he preferred to have fun and not win. He said he preferred both. If he had to choose between 1 SB and happiness or 5 and misery, he picked 1. Rex Ryan type fun doesn’t figure in here, as he never even got to a SB. I hope Chris Long had fun because he played for free (donated whole year’s salary to educational equality) 5 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: But yet free agents keep signing with them for discounted rates because it seems winning fixes everything. I know Brady does (even though I’m pretty sure he’s funneling money from them through his company TB12) but what other FAs have signed for discounts? Gilmore didn’t. Edited February 10, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 The fans have fun... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I have a colleague who's a workaholic. He moonlighted as an engineer at a high-paced aerospace company while teaching college full-time. He has a patent. He wrote a textbook and he's working on another. He's got lots of money. By most "traditional" measures, he's more successful than I am. But I have more fun, and I wouldn't trade places with him for anything. Everyone's different. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, WhoTom said: I have a colleague who's a workaholic. He moonlighted as an engineer at a high-paced aerospace company while teaching college full-time. He has a patent. He wrote a textbook and he's working on another. He's got lots of money. By most "traditional" measures, he's more successful than I am. But I have more fun, and I wouldn't trade places with him for anything. Everyone's different. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 If by 'fear based' he means with high expectations, then he's probably right. At the end of the day, us regular people all have to go to work, and be there on time etc. Should 'professional' sportsmen be held to any lesser standard than we are? I don't doubt that the cheatriots players have some fun along the way, this stuff is all relative, but imho, it's like any job people do, in that there's a time and place for it, and with them, it's largely out of sight. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 i Think this thread shows that everyone looks for something different in what they would consider a satisfying work place. Some guys want to have fun and occasional success while others would rather have a more professional environment that produces more sustainable positive results. Finding the right fit ultimately is what all organizations and individuals need to reach their goals. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Zebrastripes said: But yet free agents keep signing with them for discounted rates because it seems winning fixes everything. At a certain point I'd think, if you have a nice nest egg and you've settled down with a wife and kids, winning becomes the top priority. I get what Lane is saying though. I'd much rather be in the Eagles' current environment than with the Patriots during any point of their run...well, maybe aside from their 16-0 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Chris Long should be having more fun. He was literally in New England to do 1 thing. I believe Bellichick only wanted him to be a 3rd down pass rusher and his snap count was dramatically reduced. But...it worked. that is why Long left. He knew he had more 3 down football in him but that wasn’t going to happen in New England. But Long knew exactly what he signed up for in New England. you don’t hear Chris Hogan saying he would prefer the Rex Ryan Fun Days do you? FWIW Long played 65 percent of the regular season snaps in NE. That's not exactly a 3rd down rush specialist. His role was reduced in the playoffs, so of course he had more fun in Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 We all know what he’s saying! He would rather be somewhere he can be himself vs someone he’s always worried of messing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 minute ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: We all know what he’s saying! He would rather be somewhere he can be himself vs someone he’s always worried of messing up. Country club playpen where you don’t host a playoff game for over two decades or tough love that wins multiple titles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: I was listening to it. Thought it was interesting. Chris Long was on the episode before this and said he’s having way more fun as an eagle as opposed to a Pat as well. Are any of you surprised? Belichick runs a Gestapo environment. Then the organization labels it the "Patriot Way". Team run on fear and retribution. It does produce rings or maybe just Brady produces rings? Either way I want it over.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 There is no patriot way without Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I hope they start having a great time, and losing, VERY soon. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Belichick strikes me as the type of guy that expects his players to act a certain way if you're getting paid what his players get paid. Obviously every coach expects that to a degree, but Belichick is nazi when it comes to professionalism. I follow a few Patriots players on social media, and compared to bills players, they post next to nothing and I guarantee their is restrictions on what and how much they can post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Buddo said: If by 'fear based' he means with high expectations, then he's probably right. At the end of the day, us regular people all have to go to work, and be there on time etc. Should 'professional' sportsmen be held to any lesser standard than we are? I don't doubt that the cheatriots players have some fun along the way, this stuff is all relative, but imho, it's like any job people do, in that there's a time and place for it, and with them, it's largely out of sight. I'm sure the Eagles and Doug Pederson went to work every day. Just as sure his players enjoyed themselves more. I would hate working for a company ran with a BB mindset. That mindset doesn't guarantee success either. Most the time it leaves to contempt and resentment. Having one of the best QB's of all time and the constant success has allowed him to run a system like that for so long. If he had a couple losing seasons he would lose the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 3 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Chris Long should be having more fun. He was literally in New England to do 1 thing. I believe Bellichick only wanted him to be a 3rd down pass rusher and his snap count was dramatically reduced. But...it worked. that is why Long left. He knew he had more 3 down football in him but that wasn’t going to happen in New England. But Long knew exactly what he signed up for in New England. you don’t hear Chris Hogan saying he would prefer the Rex Ryan Fun Days do you? You don’t hear Chris Hogan saying anything remotely natural or human, which is kinda the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I really don't care if the players have fun or not. They're not paid to have fun. They're paid to win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 31 minutes ago, row_33 said: Country club playpen where you don’t host a playoff game for over two decades or tough love that wins multiple titles You think Belichick is that successful without Brady? You don’t think most of those players go there cause they are gonna play with the best ever? Whether people want to believe it or not you can have it both ways. Play on an organization that doesn’t try to turn you into robots but also be all about business. Belichick is a dick, without Brady that dude wouldn’t last. 14 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I really don't care if the players have fun or not. They're not paid to have fun. They're paid to win. It’s not about having fun, which playing this game and playing in front of 80k fans every Sunday should be. It’s about being able to be yourself but also take care of business at the same time. If Tom Brady wasn’t on that team, and the Pats didn’t win 12-14 games a year, you think players would talk about how amazing it is to play for Belichick? I doubt it. Winning is everything and Brady is the reason they win. But not this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) 17 seasons under Belichick/Brady: 5 Superbowl Titles 8 AFC Championship Rings 12 AFC Championship game appearances 15 years where they made the playoffs It's nice to have fun though. Edited February 11, 2018 by Doc Brown 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 34 minutes ago, 4th&long said: There is no patriot way without Brady. Kinda pointless to scream a team wouldn’t have been champions without the Hall of Fame players that wore the uniform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: You think Belichick is that successful without Brady? You don’t think most of those players go there cause they are gonna play with the best ever? Whether people want to believe it or not you can have it both ways. Play on an organization that doesn’t try to turn you into robots but also be all about business. Belichick is a dick, without Brady that dude wouldn’t last. I would argue Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers are/were just as good as Brady and their teams didn't come anywhere near what the Patriots have done. Edited February 11, 2018 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Kraft wants to win and I can’t say the same about Ralph since 1993 or the Pegulas Phil Jackson’s worshipped triangle O didn’t win when Kwame or Melo was running it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 45 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: You think Belichick is that successful without Brady? You don’t think most of those players go there cause they are gonna play with the best ever? In the Tommy era, the Cheaters* are 13-6 without Tommy. That's with Matt Cassell, Jacoby Brisset, and Jimmy G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: I really don't care if the players have fun or not. They're not paid to have fun. They're paid to win. No, they’re paid to play a child’s game. Is finding some joy in being that lucky so wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: In the Tommy era, the Cheaters* are 13-6 without Tommy. That's with Matt Cassell, Jacoby Brisset, and Jimmy G. And most of that is the Cassel year when they had an extremely easy schedule. The Dolphins went 1-15 the year before, then 11-5 that year against the incredibly nice AFC East schedule, and then 7-9 the year after. That year was a fluke. And as you know, turns out the NFL thinks Garoppolo is pretty good too, even without being in Foxboro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 4 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Chris Long should be having more fun. He was literally in New England to do 1 thing. I believe Bellichick only wanted him to be a 3rd down pass rusher and his snap count was dramatically reduced. But...it worked. that is why Long left. He knew he had more 3 down football in him but that wasn’t going to happen in New England. But Long knew exactly what he signed up for in New England. you don’t hear Chris Hogan saying he would prefer the Rex Ryan Fun Days do you? Re: Hogan Of course not, for fear of being "eliminated" ( see N. Korea) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 54 minutes ago, row_33 said: Kraft wants to win and I can’t say the same about Ralph since 1993 or the Pegulas Phil Jackson’s worshipped triangle O didn’t win when Kwame or Melo was running it.... Maybe I'm taking this out of context, but are you suggesting that Ralph and the Peguilas didn't/don't want to win? And that Phil Jackson installed the triangle with Knicks because he didn't believe it would succeed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: And most of that is the Cassel year when they had an extremely easy schedule. The Dolphins went 1-15 the year before, then 11-5 that year against the incredibly nice AFC East schedule, and then 7-9 the year after. That year was a fluke. And as you know, turns out the NFL thinks Garoppolo is pretty good too, even without being in Foxboro. You Are what your record says you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: The fans have fun... Well, who doesn’t love a good ride on a bandwagon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 5 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: The fans have fun... You just won the internet..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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