Jobot Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Ugh... potentially large blunder, although it would have been difficult to foresee from a fans perspective, but we could have gotten some decent draft picks if this was identified before the trade-deadline. No way that McD/B first incline that Tyrod is not the future of this organization just occurred today.... Unfortunate Could have gotten at least a 3rd or a player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 trade TT = officially tanking = no hope = no ticket sales = bad idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 We could have if another team wanted to. But I doubt they knew they would bemch him then. 5-2 is alot different that 5-4 with 2 crushing offense-less defeats in the rear view mirror. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 The thing is, a new coaching staff bringing a new scheme should at least see what they have in a QB before ditching him to the curb. He could've played extremely well, unfortunately, it didn't pan out. But as a head coach, with a position like QB, you have to let him play and see what you have. Now that you know, you can move on. They still might be able to trade him for something, who knows. That's if that is the direction they want to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Link to where we were offered anything for him? Otherwise this is just more bs without any facts to back anything up. Who was giving up anything for Tyrod taylor when garrapolo was only traded for a 2nd, we probably at best could have received a 5th but that is just me talking out of my ass since I have no clue either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 WE could have cut him as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallser Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, Jobot said: Ugh... potentially large blunder, although it would have been difficult to foresee from a fans perspective, but we could have gotten some decent draft picks if this was identified before the trade-deadline. No way that McD/B first incline that Tyrod is not the future of this organization just occurred today.... Unfortunate Could have gotten at least a 3rd or a player? Yeah, we probably could HAVE received a 12th rounder for him...or maybe a box of Ace bandages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) At 5-2 going into a primetime game vs an average opponent you don't trade the QB. The last few weeks the offense has been erratic to putrid. I like that Mcdermott made the change now instead of just conceding the season first before the move is made. Edited November 15, 2017 by Mat68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, Jobot said: Ugh... potentially large blunder, although it would have been difficult to foresee from a fans perspective, but we could have gotten some decent draft picks if this was identified before the trade-deadline. No way that McD/B first incline that Tyrod is not the future of this organization just occurred today.... Unfortunate Could have gotten at least a 3rd or a player? C'mon, there is absolutely zero market for Taylor. Rex Ryan is/was the only coach who wanted Taylor as his QB and not be a backup. Where is sexy Rexy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 So, at 5-2 with the offense looking like it's finally clicking on all cylinders we should of traded Tyrod? The players and fans would've had their pitch forks out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Trade Tyrod and Dareus to Jax for Ramsey was my suggestion back in Sept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Why would the Bills trade Taylor when they had a good record at the trade deadline? Also the Bills only have two viable QB's, why trade one of them away? Injuries happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 24 minutes ago, BillsfanAZ said: Why would the Bills trade Taylor when they had a good record at the trade deadline? Also the Bills only have two viable QB's, why trade one of them away? Injuries happen. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Couple things 1. How do we know they didnt try? 2. Need to have a BU QB dont ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 you're completely and utterly wrong. it's 'could have'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) They still can trade Tyrod. He signed a 2 year deal. So he is still under contract next year. Lets not jump jump the gum here anyway. Peterman hasn't even started a game yet. I hope like crazy that Peterman grabs the starting role, does great and never looks back. But Tyrod starting again is not an impossible scenario as of right now. Plus, IMO it would have been a pretty dirty move to renegotiate his contract and then immediately trade him afterwards... and I don't think anyone was trading for him when he had that 5 year $90M (or whatever it was) contract extension. It was the right move bringing Tyrod back on that renegotiated contract. Who else did the Bills have on the roster at the time? Nobody... Edited November 16, 2017 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Sure, they could HAVE, but it makes sense that didn't. McD didn't put the C on Tyrod's jersey, the team voted for him. McD respected that and believed that if he could just take a tiny step forward, it could work. And Tyrod seemingly took that step at times, but the past 2 weeks showed it's not consistent. Either way, it's not that big of a deal. Not like we're hurting for draft picks. It was worth trying to see if Tyrod could do it. He couldn't. Moving on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 At the time it didn't make sense to do that, it's easy to say coulda woulda shoulda after the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 If you can’t form a sentence correctly how can we trust anything else you have to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Thank god.. The end of Tyrod Taylor. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 13 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: At the time it didn't make sense to do that, it's easy to say coulda woulda shoulda after the fact. Don't you mean could of...would of....should of??? 8 minutes ago, PABillsfan23 said: Thank god.. The end of Tyrod Taylor. ?? No doubt you will be calling for the ouster of Peterman after Q1 on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Wouldn't have gotten more than a conditional 6th or 7th for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 could HAVE, no such thing as "could of" and this is a dumb thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Trade him for what? Some new footballs? You would've gotten a 4th at best, probably a conditional 5 for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Oh could we have? What was offered and by whom? If I recall correctly, prior to Tyrod taking a pay cut I believe I read his agent tried to call other teams to ask about interest in his client...couldn't have been too robust a market if he still took the cut to stay here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 What's important at this point is that the Bills get a good "read" on Peterman... I don't expect him to set the world on fire immediately... He is a "rookie"... Let's not forget that and let's not forget that the OL is in a state of flux as well... And as I have stated several times here as well dating back to the preseason is that this is a "rebuild"... Some people here argued with me about that... Let's just take the rest of this season as it comes and hope to see the team and Peterman in particular progress from week to week... We still have a big decision to make in the offseason as to how high we should go to draft another QB... Even if Peterman shocks us and plays lights out football the rest of the way we still need to draft another QB at some point in the next draft... And I do wish TT the best wherever he ends up next season... He seems like an overall good guy and team player... There is a big difference between being a so called "hater" and simply concluding by observation that TT isn't good enough to be the starting QB on a playoff calibre team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 25 minutes ago, Bakin said: Don't you mean could of...would of....should of??? No, I meant could have...would have...should have...If you're going to correct my spelling, at least do it correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jobot said: Ugh... potentially large blunder, although it would have been difficult to foresee from a fans perspective, but we could have gotten some decent draft picks if this was identified before the trade-deadline. No way that McD/B first incline that Tyrod is not the future of this organization just occurred today.... Unfortunate Could have gotten at least a 3rd or a player? The correct move at the trade deadline was not to trade TT. We were firmly in the playoff hunt and TT was a part of that road at that point. The difference was, when we were at the trade deadline, we had a top 10 defense. Since the trade deadline we have plummeted to bottom of the league in just about every defensive measurable. TT is not capable of carrying the load, and with a struggling run game and terrible D, this team has been pathetic because TT isnt close to good enough to offset those struggles. I would also note, the biggest issue has been the DL being manhandled and gashed since then. And at the trade deadline we traded Dareus to the worst run defense in the NFL. Since the trade, our defense has plummeted to among worst in NFL, and its worst unit as been DL by a mile, and the Jaguars run D has skyrocketed up and been a top 5 unit since the arrival of Dareus. And making it worse, all we got was a 6th which will NOT help replace Dareus and now we will be forced to use at least one pick in the first 2 rounds to TRY and replace him, which in itself has a losing percentage as more draft picks in the first 2 rounds bust or under perform to expectations than hit to be good to great starters. Edited November 15, 2017 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 a third ? noway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillsfanAZ said: Why would the Bills trade Taylor when they had a good record at the trade deadline? Also the Bills only have two viable QB's, why trade one of them away? Injuries happen. Same reason we got rid of Sammy Watkins and Darby and Jonathan Williams and Marcel Dareus and all the other 'talent' on our team.... The coaching staff took calculated risks based on what these guys true value was.... Just shows how the coaching staff was prematurely patting themselves on the back at 5-2 instead of realizing that Tyrod was dispensable at the time. Edited November 15, 2017 by Jobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Jobot said: Ugh... potentially large blunder, although it would have been difficult to foresee from a fans perspective, but we could have gotten some decent draft picks if this was identified before the trade-deadline. No way that McD/B first incline that Tyrod is not the future of this organization just occurred today.... Unfortunate Could have gotten at least a 3rd or a player? We can still trade him this offseason or the draft, and maybe we get more then. 2 hours ago, Buffalo30 said: The thing is, a new coaching staff bringing a new scheme should at least see what they have in a QB before ditching him to the curb. He could've played extremely well, unfortunately, it didn't pan out. But as a head coach, with a position like QB, you have to let him play and see what you have. Now that you know, you can move on. They still might be able to trade him for something, who knows. That's if that is the direction they want to go Truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 We were 5-2 and coming off a decisive win against the Raiders at the trade deadline. You really think we should’ve traded Tyrod at that point? This is seriously what you’re thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 hours ago, papazoid said: trade TT = officially tanking = no hope = no ticket sales = bad idea I'd say the tickets are already sold for this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Buffalo30 said: No, I meant could have...would have...should have...If you're going to correct my spelling, at least do it correctly Technically he was correcting your grammar, not your spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Bakin said: Don't you mean could of...would of....should of??? No doubt you will be calling for the ouster of Peterman after Q1 on Sunday. Nah.. doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinatraSinger Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I think this front office will listen to any trade offer for any player on this team. No one is off limits. So more than likely FO did try to see if there were any potential trade partners and there wern't any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 *have 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 You lost me at "of". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 3 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Technically he was correcting your grammar, not your spelling. Two Shea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 6 hours ago, Jobot said: Ugh... potentially large blunder, although it would have been difficult to foresee from a fans perspective, but we could have gotten some decent draft picks if this was identified before the trade-deadline. No way that McD/B first incline that Tyrod is not the future of this organization just occurred today.... Unfortunate Could have gotten at least a 3rd or a player? Yeah and I could be a billionaire if I had only invested in Google's IPO. FFS talk about an exercise in futility... Never look back, you are not headed in that direction. Definitely make note of screw-ups YOU have made, or things within YOUR control that could have been handled differently; outside of that you are wasting your time and energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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