CanadianFan Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 We're still #1!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 More important question-- how did you get a fire emoji to show up on the thread title?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 at the handclap thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 We're still #1!!!!! One thing I will say about this, it's very interesting that the Bengals, Panthers and Broncos are also on that list because it does provide some glimmer of hope or belief that perhaps the offense isn't as bad as it has shown since we've faced all those teams already and only play one more on that list (Dolphins). But in the end these are the type of teams we would be facing in the playoffs if we got there and also why we would have little to no chance of winning high stakes games given the current QB and offense situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 One thing I will say about this, it's very interesting that the Bengals, Panthers and Broncos are also on that list because it does provide some glimmer of hope or belief that perhaps the offense isn't as bad as it has shown since we've faced all those teams already and only play one more on that list (Dolphins). But in the end these are the type of teams we would be facing in the playoffs if we got there and also why we would have little to no chance of winning high stakes games given the current QB and offense situation. Or it shows that playing the Bills offense throws the stats off because they struggle to score against everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 One thing I will say about this, it's very interesting that the Bengals, Panthers and Broncos are also on that list because it does provide some glimmer of hope or belief that perhaps the offense isn't as bad as it has shown since we've faced all those teams already and only play one more on that list (Dolphins). But in the end these are the type of teams we would be facing in the playoffs if we got there and also why we would have little to no chance of winning high stakes games given the current QB and offense situation. Per Wawrow, the Bills have been held to under 300 yards on offense in five straight games for the first time since the 2009 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Or it shows that playing the Bills offense throws the stats off because they struggle to score against everybody. One game doesn't skew the stats that much after 5 games have been played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Per Wawrow, the Bills have been held to under 300 yards on offense in five straight games for the first time since the 2009 season. Hence the reason sadly I don't buy into the glimmer of hope and believe this team will continue to struggle even against the most porous (statistically) defenses. This offense is on well on it's way to setting many dubious marks not just in franchise history, but NFL history which is why the debate regarding a QB change is valid and has to be taking place in Orchard Park if Beane and McD truly know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Per Wawrow, the Bills have been held to under 300 yards on offense in five straight games for the first time since the 2009 season. Buffalo had 408 yards against the Jets. It's only been 4 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 One game doesn't skew the stats that much after 5 games have been played Well, on avg, a team probably scores about 25 points. If you play a single putrid team that only is expected to score 15, that decreases your svg over 5 games by 2 pts. That's enough to move a team down several places in the ranking. I'll concede the defenses we played didn't suck, but playing us likely contributed to their high ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 +8 through 5 games in turnover differential explains a lot. In other words, the low scoring/conservative risk averse offense is part of the reason for the low number of points surrendered. That doesn't mean that the defense isn't good, but it does mean that these kind of stats can't be looked at in isolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 We're still #1!!!!! thanks for the reminder of what a waste it is because the offense can't SCORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I keep waking up from a nightmare thinking it's 2014 all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Well, on avg, a team probably scores about 25 points. If you play a single putrid team that only is expected to score 15, that decreases your svg over 5 games by 2 pts. That's enough to move a team down several places in the ranking. I'll concede the defenses we played didn't suck, but playing us likely contributed to their high ranking. the only one I would consider to have an impact would be against the Panthers. 3 points drops that 18.8 a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Well, on avg, a team probably scores about 25 points. If you play a single putrid team that only is expected to score 15, that decreases your svg over 5 games by 2 pts. That's enough to move a team down several places in the ranking. I'll concede the defenses we played didn't suck, but playing us likely contributed to their high ranking. An average NFL Offense scores less than 25pts/game. Look it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Manager Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Eggplant and Peach emojis not working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Per Wawrow, the Bills have been held to under 300 yards on offense in five straight games for the first time since the 2009 season. So to re-cap: we have good defense, bad offense. It's always good one and bad other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 An average NFL Offense scores less than 25pts/game. Look it up Average is typically between 21 and 23 ppg. Right now it's the Raiders at 21.6. Last year it was the Eagles at 22.9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 More important question-- how did you get a fire emoji to show up on the thread title?! Yeah! I wonder how to do it too!... ...I think I got an idea though. This is just a test. Only a test. In the event of an... 🔥 Hey I did it! Success! (You wanna know how I did it... Gonna cost you $2.99/mo JR....) Free Hint: Watch the movie "Quest for Fire"...If you can make it through the first 2 minutes. Then, maybe this will give it away, copy-&-paste is your best friend. :-) 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Okay... Now, I am just being a smartazz. You think this is how Henry Ford felt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I was down after yesterday's loss, but I really feel better now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Or it shows that playing the Bills offense throws the stats off because they struggle to score against everybody. You could not hit the nail on the head any harder if you tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 One thing I will say about this, it's very interesting that the Bengals, Panthers and Broncos are also on that list because it does provide some glimmer of hope or belief that perhaps the offense isn't as bad as it has shown since we've faced all those teams already and only play one more on that list (Dolphins). But in the end these are the type of teams we would be facing in the playoffs if we got there and also why we would have little to no chance of winning high stakes games given the current QB and offense situation. The Bengals were there for the taking .... the offense gets the ball at the 12 and comes away with three??? That's not a playoff caliber offense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Just think of what the def would be with an offense that can consistently move the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Just think of what the def would be with an offense that can consistently move the ball. Yeah, rested too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The Bengals were there for the taking .... the offense gets the ball at the 12 and comes away with three??? That's not a playoff caliber offense... Pretty much, we basically played for a field goal with starting field position on the 12 yard line. We get the TD there and at worse we go to overtime with the Bengals. And what scares me is this truly 'McDBall' and he's another 'play not to lose' and 'hang around until the 4th quarter and find a way to win' type of coach which is a losing proposition in today's NFL. You play to win in all 4 quarters, not just show up, play close and try to win in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Per Wawrow, the Bills have been held to under 300 yards on offense in five straight games for the first time since the 2009 season. Yikes. Further proof that we are really struggling on offense. If our defense wasn't creating so many turnovers our PPG would be dead last or very close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 And what scares me is this truly 'McDBall' and he's another 'play not to lose' and 'hang around until the 4th quarter and find a way to win' type of coach which is a losing proposition in today's NFL. Scares me too. In a perfect the world this might be a workable strategy. But it's not a perfect world and we play on the NFL and we're the Bills which means mysterious flags will fall late. Or obvious infractions are ignored (Sherman holding Woods or whoever it was on EZ). Glamour teams get the calls and schmucks like us don't. The only way to break through is for us to be far enough ahead so it doesn't matter. Easier said than done, but what we should be trying to do IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Just think of what the def would be with an offense that can consistently move the ball. We had that offense last season with a below average defense. I keep waking up from a nightmare thinking it's 2014 all over again. 9-7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I was down after yesterday's loss, but I really feel better now! Umm, exactly my feeling. If only our damn defense could score more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Love our D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 We had that offense last season with a below average defense. 9-7. I hope. 9-7 would be a 2 game improvement over last year and maybe even good enough for playoffs. I want better, but 9-7 would good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) We had that offense last season with a below average defense. 9-7. Please dont remind me of what rex screwed up. And even last year the offense had many 3 and outa. Edited October 9, 2017 by CircleTheWagons99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Or it shows that playing the Bills offense throws the stats off because they struggle to score against everybody. The best defense is a bad offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Itd be a shame to waste such a special defense another year with a putrid offense hopefully they can get things figured out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Itd be a shame to waste such a special defense another year with a putrid offense hopefully they can get things figured out Sounds like the 1999 season all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Love our D And I hate our O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 In my opinion, I think opposing offenses may not be TRYING to score more points because they know how bad our offense is which skewers the stats a bit. Don't get me wrong, the D looks good, but I think teams realize they don't have to score much to win and play conservatively. This would make our D look better than it is. Everything needs to be seen in context, right? Bottom line, we need more firepower on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 In my opinion, I think opposing offenses may not be TRYING to score more points because they know how bad our offense is which skewers the stats a bit. Don't get me wrong, the D looks good, but I think teams realize they don't have to score much to win and play conservatively. This would make our D look better than it is. Everything needs to be seen in context, right? Bottom line, we need more firepower on offense. There's a black lining in every cloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 +8 through 5 games in turnover differential explains a lot. In other words, the low scoring/conservative risk averse offense is part of the reason for the low number of points surrendered. That doesn't mean that the defense isn't good, but it does mean that these kind of stats can't be looked at in isolation. Yup. Scoring is much more of a team stat than people like to admit. Yards isolate the offense and defense much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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