BuffAlone Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 O-line is a disgrace. Why sign Groy and start Ducasse? Why is Mills in the NFL? If the wanted to rest Glenn until Tampa then why dress him this week? Dawkins is much much worse than CK. The run scheme blows too. Every NFL coach disagrees with you. Dawkins is obviously not much much worse than CK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 They definitely purged talent. That's undeniable. At the same time it's a big picture type of approach. They are a little ahead of schedule. They shouldn't have hired Castillo and they should use guys to their strengths. They have done that on the defensive side and to an extent with Tyrod. The design of the running game doesn't fit the personnel and the OL is being wasted. The pass catchers are the worst in the league. They hate Dareus even though he makes plays when he's out there. Lastly, Tre White is the only draft pick that we can feel good about at this time. At the same time they are a big upgrade from Rex. They need to do some things right and check their arrogance a little (i.e. Glenn may not be starting). In general 3-2 is about what we could have hoped for but this team has some major issues. Maybe they will be able to address some over the break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Watkins is on a team with multiple downfield threats. That contributes to the season that Gurley is having, as he's facing fewer 8 and 9 man fronts than he did last year. While the Rams receiving group is dividing the targets, their running game is taking advantage and making plays and scoring points. The Bills don't have the down field threat to take the heat off the running game. Watkins, or a receiver like him, would help the offense immensely, because he would move defenders out of the box. Not having Watkins, or a speedy downfield threat to replace him, is a hole for the offense. And since the defense looks as though it's ready to win now, not addressing the lack of speed on offense is frustrating to fans who value wins over draft picks. This is a good point. The problem though with watkins specifically is that elite receivers aren't just decoys alone. Guys like Julio, Dez, AB, Green-- they seem to show up most weeks with really solid to exceptional production. I would expect watkins to have similar production. As I type this, he has 0 Catches and only 2 of the team's 21 targets in their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Can we fire the OC yet? Worked in our favor last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 6 players now have a catch for Goff today. Watkins 1 target 0 catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Way too many people are failing to trust the process today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Steelers lost to the Jags, its called the NFL. The jets which is even worse imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWinPlease Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Every year the problem (to many fans) is the WR's...but maybe it's just that the QB we have isn't any good.Anybody who watches him and thinks he's a QB who could win playoff games, let alone a Super Bowl, is downright delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I like the team comes 1st concept , but its very possible Buffalo is 5 - 0 with Sammy IMO. .jury is out as to whether his QB would find 'em.....the yipsters about zero WR talent are getting old....a good QB makes use of who he has to work with...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 The downside for me was losing Watkins for possibly nothing. We got Gains and a second for him. They definitely purged talent. That's undeniable. At the same time it's a big picture type of approach. They are a little ahead of schedule. They shouldn't have hired Castillo and they should use guys to their strengths. They have done that on the defensive side and to an extent with Tyrod. The design of the running game doesn't fit the personnel and the OL is being wasted. The pass catchers are the worst in the league. They hate Dareus even though he makes plays when he's out there. Lastly, Tre White is the only draft pick that we can feel good about at this time. At the same time they are a big upgrade from Rex. They need to do some things right and check their arrogance a little (i.e. Glenn may not be starting). In general 3-2 is about what we could have hoped for but this team has some major issues. Maybe they will be able to address some over the break. Glenn has been hurt, saying he won't start isn't a big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Was that the FO out there throwing the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 .jury is out as to whether his QB would find 'em.....the yipsters about zero WR talent are getting old....a good QB makes use of who he has to work with...... Tate looked good on the TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 We're on to the bye week.Trust the process.This staff has personally earned enough of my respect that they will figure it out. Two straight at home also helps tremendously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I like mcBeane. A lot. Still do after this game. But they made several miscalculations that bit them in the ass. McBeane made some bad decisions too and I like them a lot. We went into the game with four CBs total. No one does that. One of the four was signed two days ago. He gets a horrible pi penalty late, was guy that missed containment on Cincinnati last TD and dropped late Int. Tough play but he shouldn't have been playing. They also inexplicably started ducasse who sucked all preseason, had not played one game, and he sucked the whole game. Plus they didn't get a new WR. All correct. Today was you get what you pay for day at OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 don't trade for anyone, this is not a superbowl winning team a WR does not put us over the top.Not with a QB like Tyrod he won't see him open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 6 players now have at least 2 catches for Goff. Watkins 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Relying too much on the run game is a problem. Shady is great but he will not carry the team. This is a WR league, not a RB league. I realize TT isn't the QB that most people want, but he's better than he looked today. Almost no passes to WR's, and a TE with a huge bandage on his hand (O'Leary) was one of the best weapons. Run, run, pass, punt. No good. FO or OC, something isn't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 7 players now have a catch for Goff. Watkins still 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Im not defending TT play today. But you cant defend the WR group put out there today. They simply are not competitive at WR. They had Zay triple covered on the last play because they were not worried about anyone else. Yes Brady the greatest QB of all time can win with this,group of WRs. My guess with these OTs he wouldn't make it past week 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I like mcBeane. A lot. Still do after this game. But they made several miscalculations that bit them in the ass. McBeane made some bad decisions too and I like them a lot. We went into the game with four CBs total. No one does that. One of the four was signed two days ago. He gets a horrible pi penalty late, was guy that missed containment on Cincinnati last TD and dropped late Int. Tough play but he shouldn't have been playing. They also inexplicably started ducasse who sucked all preseason, had not played one game, and he sucked the whole game. Plus they didn't get a new WR. They did but they cut him three days after signing him to bring up Mabin. I dont get the moves sometimes. And Ducasse shouldn't even be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 7 players now have a catch for Goff. Watkins still 0.I saw two of the targets. One Sammy just gave up on. Didn't think pass was coming. I think those are inexcusable. One in first half he was open deep. Good pass is a long completion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Only in Buffalo is anyone making a big deal about who our starting rt guard is. That is not going to make a bit of difference. Our QB can not thrown the football down the field. Simple as that. He is lousy. His accuracy is questionable and he can't read a defense. Get Peterman ready for our next game. Give him a chance. McDermott's schemes are good. You won't get more out of this marginal roster (LB's are average at best, no depth anywhere, and the offense is putrid) than what he has done so far. The man is the ultimate competitor. But we don't have the ammo to win with any scheme. Keep these schemes and get some talent on offense and at LB and this team will be tremendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I saw two of the targets. One Sammy just gave up on. Didn't think pass was coming. I think those are inexcusable. One in first half he was open deep. Good pass is a long completion. Yes inexcusable. Sammy is still a hof wind sprint runner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Be honest now. Did you think this was a playoff team at the beginning of the season? Before you saw how good the defense was? Did you honestly think this team had potential? Be honest. I thought that this team was a playoff team the last two seasons. Seriously, Rex and Rob's mishandling of the defense was total malpractice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Give McDermott and Beane credit for fixing the defense faster than anyone could imagine. Some of it is just getting rid of Ryan but still the FO should get the credit. But, going into the game with a rookie WR that can't catch as the only viable WR is inexcusable. Even with Mathews they are a below average to bad group. They must make a trade. They need a true deep threat or they will never get the running game going. So would you be happy if we kept Sammy Watkins? He has zero catches today for the Rams even though Goff looks decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 8 players now have at least 1 catch for Goff. Watkins 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 So would you be happy if we kept Sammy Watkins? He has zero catches today for the Rams even though Goff looks decent. I'd been happy if they kept Sammy or replaced him with a legitimate downfield threat. It was a mistake to leave a gap like that on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I thought that this team was a playoff team the last two seasons. Seriously, Rex and Rob's mishandling of the defense was total malpractice.Appreciate the honesty. They're still in it. D played well again today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 At the end of the day, the defense is worlds better, and the offense is back to being broken. We had the #1 rushing attack for 2 straight years. And now where do we rank? Im afraid to look. Shady has one 100yd rushing game. Tyrod is barely running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) D line was pretty bad today too. Never got pressure really on dalton. When they did squeeze the pocket they never really were able to hit him or actually pressure him. There were times when the defense really could've clamped down and sealed the game with sack ending drives but didn't and allowed dalton to throw all over the secondary Edited October 8, 2017 by VaMilBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I like the team comes 1st concept , but its very possible Buffalo is 5 - 0 with Sammy IMO. Without Gaines? Hell no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 At the end of the day, the defense is worlds better, and the offense is back to being broken. We had the #1 rushing attack for 2 straight years. And now where do we rank? Im afraid to look. Shady has one 100yd rushing game. Tyrod is barely running. For two straight years they did have the #1 rushing offense, and for two straight years they had a bad defense. I would love to see the rushing game from last season paired with McDermott's defense. That combination could get the Bills a home playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I'd been happy if they kept Sammy or replaced him with a legitimate downfield threat. It was a mistake to leave a gap like that on the roster.Again, career high pass attempts for Goff and zero catches for Watkins. Is he an upgrade? That being said, Woods looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Mainly offense. Defense got 3 TOs today. Got to take better advantage of that. The 1 TD was great, and if it wasn't for that TO, we more than ,we probably don't get into the end zone at all today. Agree though that not starting Groy and not doing anything at the WR position had a big part also. AJ Green went off, as I expected anyways, but the D did great to come away with all those TOs today. Offense and play calling put the nail in the coffin though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Way too many people are failing to trust the process today.if the process is to pound the ball into 8 man fronts, single cover AJ Green and mismanage the offensive to the point where a below average defense can disrupt our offense all day, then I do not trust the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) if the process is to pound the ball into 8 man fronts, single cover AJ Green and mismanage the offensive to the point where a below average defense can disrupt our offense all day, then I do not trust the process. Cinci is far from a below average defense. They came into the game 3rd in scoring defense. They are 2nd in passing defense. Not sure where you get the below average stuff from. Edited October 8, 2017 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 if the process is to pound the ball into 8 man fronts, single cover AJ Green and mismanage the offensive to the point where a below average defense can disrupt our offense all day, then I do not trust the process. Werent the bengals ranked in the top 5 on defense?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Again, career high pass attempts for Goff and zero catches for Watkins. Is he an upgrade? That being said, Woods looks good. You're also assuming that the Bills and Rams would use the Watkins the same way. The Rams have Woods, Kupp, Austin, Watkins, and Higbee. Gurley also gets looks in the passing game. Watkins isn't playing an AJ Green or Julio Jones role in the offense. The key focal point has been Gurley. It looks like Watkins takes the deep routes and tries to open things up underneath. Would the Bills use him the same way? Probably not, since the Bills don't have much other support in the WR corps. Watkins would get more looks with the Bills. But even if they feel that they HAD to get rid of Watkins, not adding a down-field threat other than Watkins thru the draft or FA is hurting the team right now. There's is not a whole lot of room at the line of scrimmage for the running game to succeed. Having a guy to take the top of the defense would be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 ya bunch a babies. this team is performing so much better than we thought they'd be Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 O-line is a disgrace. Why sign Groy and start Ducasse? Why is Mills in the NFL? If the wanted to rest Glenn until Tampa then why dress him this week? Dawkins is much much worse than CK. The run scheme blows too. When you're right, you're right. And you're right on this. McD is a defense coach. Is it possible he's simply allowing Rico and Juan to make the personnel decisions? If so, it's time to take control of the O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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