I said I would give TT until the bye to prove himself

[100DollarBills]

That Sammy trade looks better every day...not like you need wr's in the NFL anymore. It's not like the Rams use him anymore either.

We weren't using him anyways, a WR like sammy is a waste with TT.

[Estro]

I've been down with Tyrod since the opener last yr. vs. the Ravens.

 

He's a QB that will win you 6 to 9 games depending on how the ball bounces. The clunkers, like he put up today are way too frequent to consider him anything more than a placeholder.

 

The Bills should turn to Peterman, not because we know he's better, but because we know Tyrod isn't good enough, so let's see if he can be better.

[Dr.Sack]

We've lost 2 games because of ________?

[100DollarBills]

We've lost 2 games because of ________?

QB play.

[B Fan in LA]

Good NFL QB's are expected to put the ball in the hands of the receiver while the receiver is running at full speed.

 

Tyrod does that about 20 per cent of the time.

 

Some days he's better than that, most days he's not....................

[John from Riverside]

Anyone who was not voicing this in the weeks preceding this where we were winning.....what makes you think you should be doing it now?

[Figster]

Anyone who was not voicing this in the weeks preceding this where we were winning.....what makes you think you should be doing it now?

I've been back and forth on this John because its possible Peterman is a real good fit for the Dennison O in my humble opinion.

 

Big Taylor fan , but 3 games sufficient game manager, 2 games lost, so hanging just above the 500 mark again.

 

Is it wrong to want more out of our QB? the team?

Edited October 9, 2017 by Figster

[MJS]

I'm throwing shade on a team that lost on an offense that looked flat and a QB that I gave the benefit of the doubt to, but hasn't produced much in the first five games?

 

Okay. . .I'll pass on whatever logic this is. Shade is when the team wins and people still whine about crap.

 

 

I said that after a win when TT looked like he was turning the corner, so I as optimistic. I saw last week's game as possibly a turning point because he finally had a good game. Then he returns to normal. Jesus Christ, WTF is wrong with you people? I'm supposed to throw him under the bus after a good game?

 

My BS thread, son, was stated after a win after listening to the TT haters complain all week about him. As I said, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and started to believe he was turning it around. After this week, I don't see it happening any time soon. Satisfied, or do you want to continue this idiotic sophistry?

That's pretty hilarious. You totally got called out.

[JoPar_v2]

HE did again. Can't lead a 4th Quarter comeback, can't read his progressions quickly enough, string bean arm, and can't seem to pass for over 200 yards consistently.

 

I am done with him. QB change after the break. Spend the next two weeks grooming Peterson.

Well might as well cut him right now since he didnt meet your deadline coach.

 

Another jelly roll that probably never played the game and definitely never coached. Your opinion matters. Cant wait for the next one.

Edited October 9, 2017 by JoPar_v2

[Thurman#1]

I just saw the replay of the game......

 

Clay goes out early but was making plays

 

Zay still dropping passes

 

OL letting him get swarmed play after play

 

NO deep threat receiver...who were his receivers today anyway?

 

Despite all this......the game was close and he did make plays with his arm....this was the first game in which he didnt make key late plays in games this year and they lost.

 

Not gonna win them all....did you think we were going win them all?

 

 

 

 

If there's one single symptom that you always see with bad QBs, it's excuses on the boards for him.

 

The offense has been bad. The passing game has been bad. And Tyrod has been slightly below average since about the eighth game of his first year starting. You're right that the offensive personnel does not look good. But among that group is Tyrod.

 

People here keep going on about haters. Not you, John, but you see it a lot. And there aren't any except maybe a troll here and there. What there are are a metric squat ton of unbelievers and doubters. And for very good reason. He seemed wildly unlikely to become the second QB after Gannon to make such a huge upturn so late in his career. And he simply hasn't. He's still playing like Tyrod, and it's too bad for the Bills and for he himself.

Edited October 9, 2017 by Thurman#1

[Overseas Bills Fan]

That's pretty hilarious. You totally got called out.

 

And that and a $1.50 will buy coffee. Don't care honestly. If calling out total strangers on a message board gives people's lives meaning, I'm glad to do so. Other than that, save it for someone who gives a tinker's damn.

Well might as well cut him right now since he didnt meet your deadline coach.

 

Another jelly roll that probably never played the game and definitely never coached. Your opinion matters. Cant wait for the next one.

 

Here it is. . .spending time arguing with someone you will never meet on a message board really shows a lack of a life. Use a dime and buy one.

[billsfan1959]

 

And that and a $1.50 will buy coffee. Don't care honestly. If calling out total strangers on a message board gives people's lives meaning, I'm glad to do so. Other than that, save it for someone who gives a tinker's damn.

 

Here it is. . .spending time arguing with someone you will never meet on a message board really shows a lack of a life. Use a dime and buy one.

Says the guy arguing with people he will never meet on a message board...

 

Interesting...

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

We've lost 2 games because of ________?

NOT the defense.

[Buffalo Boy]

May have a strong arm, but his passes are Chad Pennington speed getting out there. I have rarely seen him do a lightning strike pass. They all seem to float.

My sentiments exactly.

His long ball, which is supposed to be his strength, doesn't nose over but often falls down. Sometimes this is an appropriate throw but not when you are trying to hit a guy down field in a particular spot..

Culpepper looked good because of Moss. Delhome because of Smith and Watkins made TT's long ball look like a strength. He throws it to a general area and expects the receiver to bail him out. Again, that is SOMETIMES an appropriate throw. But not always.

Edited October 9, 2017 by Buffalo Boy

[lifefan]

If TT's mobility is his strength, why do the play calls keep him in the pocket? Especially when there are questions about the O-line's play, calling plays that ask him to drop straight back don't appear to make sense. At least give him a chance to run away from trouble by design by rolling him out.

[xRUSHx]

You absolutely do not know that

Just like you absolutely don't know that but under a opinion.....

I would give it a shot with Peterman rather then do the bang the head against a rock trying to prove Tyrod is more then what he is like Chan did with Fitz.

 

I honestly truly think Peterman could have easily duplicated what Tyrod has done this season. In fact I think he would have already had a 300 game or 2 as well.

Edited October 9, 2017 by xRUSHx

[KDIGGZ]

Tyrod is who he is. he is a gimmick and not a real QB. sandlot type player where he can occassionally make big plays but he can't make simple plays. you ever play football in the backyard? nobody throws a 5 yard hitch, they want to scramble around and then launch it down the field and make a spectacular play. that's Tyrod. he will get lucky every so often and make a great play. but he can't lead a drive down the field consistently and put points on the board. that's what a QB does. Tyrod is something else entirely. now everyone is hyped up about how great our defense is. we are going to win 7-9 games like always and pick 15-25 in the draft and not get a QB. rinse and repeat every year for eternity because we never draft high enough to get a franchise QB and we never win enough to be a contender. mediocrity for life

[quinnearlysghost88]

Everyone's to blame. Maybin's 3rd down PI led to a TD. Thomas' hold wiped out a 44-yard run. Those are game-changers.

[Epstein's Mother]

 

Will they bench a guy who's 2-16 in games we fall behind by even a point in the 4th quarter?

 

Aaron Rodgers 0-35 when trailing by more than 1 point entering 4th quarter (through 2016 season).

[T master]

HE did again. Can't lead a 4th Quarter comeback, can't read his progressions quickly enough, string bean arm, and can't seem to pass for over 200 yards consistently.

 

I am done with him. QB change after the break. Spend the next two weeks grooming Peterson.

 

Ain't gonna happen !!

[PromoTheRobot]

TT will be the starter, barring injury, for the rest of the season. If the Bills are eliminated late Peterman might start the last game.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

Aaron Rodgers 0-35 when trailing by more than 1 point entering 4th quarter (through 2016 season).

SEE Packers Cowboys.

[Billsmovinup]

 

Well played.

Not really.

[buffalobloodfloridahome]

How many times have we watched great QB's (Manning, Brady, Rodgers) make WR's that were no names with bad QB's become superstars. Wes Welker was only a return man before Brady started throwing to him. I wonder how many of those guys would disappear on a bad team. Our WR core looks barren. These guys all made it into the NFL were all stand outs in college and can all catch a well thrown ball. Zay has dropped some passes and it may be in his head at this point but one of his best traits out of college was great hands I feel he'll come around. We can debate all day about the drop in Carolina an L is an L.

 

For all the people defending Tyrod I understand completely and I wanna see the guy be successful and great. I'm just getting tired of having to cater to all of his flaws. Making him roll out and only read half the field. I just wanna see a passer that when down late in the game can be the architect of a game winning drive consistently (Rodgers). I wanna see less 3 and outs. Yesterday it was very important to let our banged up secondary rest and we didn't do that.

 

Having a winning record 5 games in and losing a stinker in Cincinatti before our bye should not be grounds enough for Tyrod's job to be safe. Having the Patriots with the same record and the lowly Jets tied with us should be cause for concern. We have won two statement games back to back because of our defense. Not because we are offensive juggernauts. There is always room for improvement and I have no idea if Peterman would be an improvement or not. It's not an if its a when.

[Pbomb]

 

Will they bench a guy who's 2-16 in games we fall behind by even a point in the 4th quarter?

most unclutch qb ever

Who is he throwing to today?

what about last year when he had sammy woods clay and goodwin and still couldnt do anything

Peterman will not play in 2017, unless Tyrod is injured. Get over it. This board is complete garbage.

 

why are u here then

[row_33]

He doesnt have it but he is the only option until he gets hurt or the season nosedives. But it looks like a year where 5-7 will be in the thick of it.

Edited October 9, 2017 by row_33

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

He doesnt have it but he is the only option until he gets hurt or the season nosedives. But it looks like a year where 5-7 will be in the thick of it.

He is not the only option especially if 5-7 wins is the result.

 

I'd rather suck with the other guy than suck with TT.

[dlonce]

The change in offensive scheme has hurt this running game.

 

Tyrod isn't a pocket QB,he's too short and lacks a quick release. Having Tyrod taking 3,5 or 7 step drops in the pocket,going through progressions isn't his game,he needs to move the pocket often and use his feet. Dennison is trying to change players to fit his scheme,that is why Ducasse started,because of system awareness. Lack of a passing game is killing the running game and vice versa.

 

The argument about having bad receivers is valid if you have a QB that actually targets them. Look at Tyrods history,his looks to the wideouts were minimal,even with Watkins and Woods. The loss of Clay is devestating because that's the guy Tyrod clicks with.

We do miss Watkins on deep patterns, and Dennisons system seems to be very conservative with very few deep patterns. Ask the Denver fans about this guy,they couldn't wait until he left.

 

This is the opposite of what happened with Rex,change the D to attempt to run his scheme,but without the proper personnell it didn't work and Dennisons offense will not work here with the players we have.

McDermott has made an error in hiring him,he should have looked for someone to keep the offense intact,but we know how coaches think.

 

The only way to get this turned around is for the OC to change his game planning or to find a QB who fits what they are trying to accomplish. Otherwise it's going to be a long season.

[Koko78]

Not really.

 

Eh, the setup was nice. The OP fell into the trap, and the payoff worked.

 

I'd say it was well played.

Edited October 9, 2017 by Koko78

[Gugny]

This board is complete garbage.

 

Why do you come here so often, then?

[Buffalo Boy]

He is not the only option especially if 5-7 wins is the result.

 

I'd rather suck with the other guy than suck with TT.

It's not Sucking if a rookie is learning.....

It is sucking if TT is just continuing to suck.

Watching Peterman progress while we are getting a better draft pick is preferable to watching TT

Edited October 9, 2017 by Buffalo Boy

[billsfan60]

It's not Sucking if a rookie is learning.....

It is sucking if TT is just continuing to suck.

Watching Peterman progress while we are getting a better draft pick is preferable to watching TT

This makes way too much sense. Everybody on the planet know what you're going to get with Twoyard. Damn near shut off the game yesterday before the last drive. Knew just what was coming.

[Captain Murica]

We've lost 2 games because of ________?

The other team had a total of points that were greater than ours at the end of the 4th quarter.

 

Boom.

[Jobot]

HE did again. Can't lead a 4th Quarter comeback, can't read his progressions quickly enough, string bean arm, and can't seem to pass for over 200 yards consistently.

 

I am done with him. QB change after the break. Spend the next two weeks grooming Peterson.

 

Did you also say you would take away any and all of his top receiving targets???

 

I bet you're angry that clouds live in the sky....

[Cripple Creek]

 

And that and a $1.50 will buy coffee. Don't care honestly. If calling out total strangers on a message board gives people's lives meaning, I'm glad to do so. Other than that, save it for someone who gives a tinker's damn.

 

Here it is. . .spending time arguing with someone you will never meet on a message board really shows a lack of a life. Use a dime and buy one.

Ouch, overseas is smarting. Put a band-aid on that ouchie. You're out of your mind.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...IF TT is not part of the long term QB plan, why is Dennison so hell bent on his "system" and forcing Taylor to be in the pocket more often that not?.......what not become more versatile and take advantage of his mobility.......we do it and then abandon it......his reads/progressions take too long and OL protection collapses......guess I missed the memo as usual....seems like forcing the "round peg into a square hole" when the "peg" is likely to be gone in 2018.......

[JM2009]

most unclutch qb ever

what about last year when he had sammy woods clay and goodwin and still couldnt do anything

why are u here then

With those WRs Taylor put up good numbers. The offense was top ten in scoring. Imagine that. A good WR group TT does pretty well. A bad group he does not. And he shouldn't-he isn't in the elite status of QBs.

This makes way too much sense. Everybody on the planet know what you're going to get with Twoyard. Damn near shut off the game yesterday before the last drive. Knew just what was coming.

How come he led the NFL with passes over 20 yards in 2015, or was close,-Watkins. QBs need WRs, mediocre ones even more so. You wouldn't want a HOF QB to be stuck with our WR group, yet that's just an excuse for TT.

[ctk232]

Won't happen. No way the coaches bench a guy who's 3-2

You're right, but that decision should never be based on record. TT isn't the reason we're 3-2. Def played a role, but without our defense we're not 3-2. That's not TT's record

[Dragonborn10]

Get over it. TT is the best QB they have had since Kelly.

Peterman is closer to Tuel time than he is a competent starter. He has minimal arm strength and no athleticism.

Honestly I hope TT gets the flu one week and Peterman gets to start. Would love to see Peterman on the road against KC defense.

This board is the same year after year. The back-up QB is great until he plays and shows he sucks.

They are 3-2 with a **** show for an offensive line and no WR.

You want to put a rookie QB with no arm strength behind this offensive line with no WR than can separate from even an average NFL DB????

Clay was the only viable receiving threat and TT was using him perfectly. Yes TT should have gotten him the ball more the last two years. But without Clay, they have no one that can get open and catch the ball.

So please tell us why Peterman should start on a team that is 3-2, has a win over Denver, and a QB that has thrown one bad interception and has had more drops than errant throws?

 

[1st Ammendment NoMas]

This team should be 5-0 though.

YES!!! I'm with you. I like TT but he just is not getting it done. He needs to play to his strengths and is not doing it. Watching Rogers whoop up on the Cowgirls made me jealous for what a real QB can do.

We've lost 2 games because of ________?

offense, Tyrod, O-line.