TC in St. Louis Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) It's preseason. Ok. But I just tuned in for about 10 minutes of the game. Starting with the offensive pass interference on our tight end. Even the Philly announcers thought that was a bad call. There was a punt by Philly that went out at our 11, and we got called for holding by #51, who was last seen jogging toward the action at the end of the play. Watched it 5 times, couldn't see an infraction. There was a nice 20 yard fun by Banyard eclipsed by a holding penalty on #19, Powell. Replay shows no holding WHATSOEVER. This was a span of about 10 plays. The call on our rookie #75 on the field goal attempt, which was missed, cost us the game. The guy missed, and they called our guy for half the distance for, what, trying to block a field goal? They were given first and goal and got a touchdown. Here's a picture of a play during which the Philly announcers praised the left tackle for outstanding blocking, and the running back for nearly making a first down (ended up 4th and 4). Anybody see a hold here? He's got both arms around our guy. WTF Edited August 19, 2017 by TC in St. Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Ed Hauckley is notorious for thinking he is the biggest star on the field. He gives the most drawn out explanations for the penalties because I think he just likes the sound of his own voice which is evident from him not turning the mic off multiple times. The guy is a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Ed Hauckley is notorious for thinking he is the biggest star on the field. He gives the most drawn out explanations for the penalties because I think he just likes the sound of his own voice which is evident from him not turning the mic off multiple times. The guy is a joke You mean Hochuli? Unsure if I've ever seen a name butchered worse than this one just was and I've seen a lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 You mean Hochuli? Unsure if I've ever seen a name butchered worse than this one just was and I've seen a lot... Oh please because you googled it. It's pronounced exactly as I typed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) Bogus Look for many crucial phantom calls to go against us during the regular season. Edited August 19, 2017 by Mark Vader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 You mean Hochuli? Unsure if I've ever seen a name butchered worse than this one just was and I've seen a lot... Butcher the name, he butchers the game. hate when we draw his crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 So, what you mean to be saying is that you watched a Bills game... ...par for the course. It's easy to complain about calls against us, but it is obvious that small market teams without a franchise pocket passer don't get the calls. I am numb to it by now, and one of the most important factors in a game is who is the ref. Jerome Bogus or Hackuli mean we clearly will have to beat the opponent plus a horde of zebras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 artificial intelligence time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 been sick of all the **** calls for the last 35 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 So, what you mean to be saying is that you watched a Bills game... ...par for the course. It's easy to complain about calls against us, but it is obvious that small market teams without a franchise pocket passer don't get the calls. I am numb to it by now, and one of the most important factors in a game is who is the ref. Jerome Bogus or Hackuli mean we clearly will have to beat the opponent plus a horde of zebras. Don't forget Brady's good buddy Walt Coleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Something we have to live with. The owners will not spend any money on improving the officiating. It needs a complete overhaul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I only saw a few minutes, too. And, caught the "leverage" penalty on Yarborough. Not that I care, but they could have shown another replay and explained how the rule works. Because I didn't see anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Hochuli's crew notoriously calls more borderline penalties than most officiating crews. The Bills have also seemed to become a magnet for such calls. I'm totally speculating, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills had more "block in the back" penalties than any other team. Most of them are complete B.S. Teams can embellish against us (and other teams; we're certainly not the only ones) and get the call every time. It's going to take a lot of disciplined, sanitized football to reverse that. Meanwhile, the Pats will run a pick play with about 3 offensive line holds every single down and never get called. The NFL is very much a winner-friendly or sensationalist-friendly organization, and we haven't been either for two decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Don't forget Brady's good buddy Walt Coleman Believe it or not, the Bills have a winning record when Walt Coleman officiates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Ed Hauckley is notorious for thinking he is the biggest star on the field. He gives the most drawn out explanations for the penalties because I think he just likes the sound of his own voice which is evident from him not turning the mic off multiple times. The guy is a joke Testify!!!!! Can't stand him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 You mean Hochuli? Unsure if I've ever seen a name butchered worse than this one just was and I've seen a lot... It should be Ed Hackley. The guy is such a hack of a referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Every fan base thinks bull **** calls go against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Every fan base thinks bull **** calls go against them. Are you saying all the calls against the Bills on Thursday are legit penalties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 been sick of all the **** calls for the last 35 yearshow about 52 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The NFL needs to address pass interference, badly. The inconsistency on it is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 It's preseason. Ok. But I just tuned in for about 10 minutes of the game. Starting with the offensive pass interference on our tight end. Even the Philly announcers thought that was a bad call. There was a punt by Philly that went out at our 11, and we got called for holding by #51, who was last seen jogging toward the action at the end of the play. Watched it 5 times, couldn't see an infraction. There was a nice 20 yard fun by Banyard eclipsed by a holding penalty on #19, Powell. Replay shows no holding WHATSOEVER. This was a span of about 10 plays. The call on our rookie #75 on the field goal attempt, which was missed, cost us the game. The guy missed, and they called our guy for half the distance for, what, trying to block a field goal? They were given first and goal and got a touchdown. Here's a picture of a play during which the Philly announcers praised the left tackle for outstanding blocking, and the running back for nearly making a first down (ended up 4th and 4). Anybody see a hold here? He's got both arms around our guy. WTF holding.jpg yeah they get worse and worse every year. It's basically unwatchable now. Especially when Ed Hoc's crew is officiating. They are one of the worst if not the worst in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Hochuli was in the middle of the pack last year in terms of penalties per game. In a League where some say you can call a penalty on just about every play, I, too, wonder how some teams seem to get flagged repeatedly for things others don't get flagged at all for. New England's* O-line holding and pick plays immediately come to mind. http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/227621/2016-nfl-officiating-awards-best-and-worst-calls-most-penalized-player-and-more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The NFL needs to address pass interference, badly. The inconsistency on it is pathetic. Also need to go to the college model. Spot foul or 15 yards, enough of this chuck it as far as you can and hope for PI crap. The reward far outweighs the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaz Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I can't stand Hochuli, he always calls phantom penalties against the Bills. However, the idiots that are called for a block in the back during punt returns need to be fined or receive some other punishment. That is the most obvious penalty in all of football. I watched two of our players close on the gunner and knew the flag was coming. If you can see the name on the jersey you're going to get flagged. Tate did a great job for the most part and the idiots continued to give the team horrible field for most of the game!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Are you saying all the calls against the Bills on Thursday are legit penalties? Not at all. Every team has bull **** called on them, we just see more, because our players are undisciplined on top of the usual BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Replacel them all with robots, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 It's not just the Bills, it's every game. The rules have become way too complex, the scrutiny on every play by everyone causing officials to err on the side of making a call, the overengineering of the game. All this has caused these officials to throw the flag WAY too much. It's really getting difficult to watch a game. IMO this is a much bigger factor to football potentially losing appeal down the road than concussions. It's very very difficult to watch games these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 those that don't think we get the bulk of the bad calls against us must not break down the games afterward. I watch each game 2-5 times. Slow-mo and rewind the penalties against both teams. The amount of defensive penalties called against the bills on 3rd down to extend drives seems to at least triple or quadruple the opposition. The amount of phantom offensive holding/illegal block our offense es called for after completing a 3rd conversion is at least double the opposition. While I admit the Bills are undisciplined, many of these calls are penalty free. I don't know where the collusion comes from (the NFL, the refs, certain referee crews) there's isn't anyone that can tell me that it doesn't exist. No, it doesn't occur every game against us, but the majority of the games no doubt. I realize bad calls happen in every game, it's not just a conspiracy vs the Bills......but we get **** on more than 90% of the NFL if not 100%. My buddy who at he's every bills game with me and is a 49er fan think s it's comical. Every big play we make on O or D I celebrate. His response to every big play "don't get too happy, wait for the flag". Then the flag comes out 3 seconds after the play is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The worst thing that's happened is the trend towards holding penalties on running plays. In the old days that was never called. Holding was a pass protection penalty. If they're going to call them I'd suggest that the NFL consider changing holding on a running play to a FIVE yard penalty. Getting a ten yard penalty on a typical three yard running play is slowing the game down and way over blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Oh please because you googled it. It's pronounced exactly as I typed it Actually it would hawkulee if you were going the sound it out route, which brings me to how hard is it to look the guy's name up before you type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Im sick of getting rid of your best WR and CB and then blaming everything else for the misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 There were some bad calls for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Actually it would hawkulee if you were going the sound it out route, which brings me to how hard is it to look the guy's name up before you type? Don't be that guy. Who cares, honestly? You just want to correct people, and it's not a good color on you. I'm not even going to get into the hilarity that your "phonetic" spelling of Hochuli isn't even the correct pronunciation. I'll give it a shot (hok-you-lee), at least it's more accurate than your "correction". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The most annoying thing with the refs was the absence of calls on Philly for the same crappy ticky tack stuff they were calling on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Actually it would hawkulee if you were going the sound it out route, which brings me to how hard is it to look the guy's name up before you type? I usually post on here from my phone either while watching the game or while taking a #2. If I have to google everything first I'm going to get hemorrhoids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 If you can't watch a game without yelling about the refs on every play, time to move on, those with you in the room want you to shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Ed Hauckley is notorious for thinking he is the biggest star on the field. He gives the most drawn out explanations for the penalties because I think he just likes the sound of his own voice which is evident from him not turning the mic off multiple times. The guy is a joke Real sht tho. Also hoculi always turns his horns at the bills. The crucial soul crushing game ending penalties always come against us from hoculi. I think he was the one with the phanton pi call vs the jags in the london debacle Bogus Look for many crucial phantom calls to go against us during the regular season. Sad but true, wearing my tin foil hat, im starting to think ralph didnt wanna sell his soul to the powers that be in the 90s which have the nfl screwing the bills over repeatedly to prove a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The easiest sport for refs to manipulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The NFL needs to address pass interference, badly. The inconsistency on it is pathetic. I'm interested to know how many drives have been stopped due to O holding. It hurts the entertainment level of the game in my humble opinion. O holding should be reduced to a 5 yard penalty IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Life is too short to B word about officiating in a pre-season NFL game. It's summer. Crack open a beer and relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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