Wagon Circler Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Glad his first visit was Buffalo. But there will be others. It would probably take 3 years for 10 million to sign him today. can't see offering him that. We will be a running team this year. So why give that money to a 2nd tight end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Glad his first visit was Buffalo. But there will be others. It would probably take 3 years for 10 million to sign him today. can't see offering him that. We will be a running team this year. So why give that money to a 2nd tight end? Yo can't run if you don't have a good threat of a passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Leroi just said Beane is working behind the scenes. FWIW Okay and that would absolutely be against league rules of beane is helping us without being on our staff. Leroi nailed the trade up for Zay Jones. He has more trust than anyone in local or national media as far as I'm concerned. And this is what I've been assuming was happening. If these disclosures are true, I'd begin to question where Leroi is coming from or who he is. First disclosing the Bills Board, now using his influence to try to break news that Beane is working unofficially for the Bills? At best a LAMP poster dishing on his organization for "glory", and at worst out to hurt the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 If these disclosures are true, I'd begin to question where Leroi is coming from or who he is. First disclosing the Bills Board, now using his influence to try to break news that Beane is working unofficially for the Bills? At best a LAMP poster dishing on his organization for "glory", and at worst out to hurt the team. What is LAMP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 he also sometimes says ridiculous things on purpose to mess with people. so while he definitely is on the inside - you definitely still have to weigh what hes saying with a certain level of skepticism. especially when its that another teams employee is working for us. To mess with which people? Maybe throwing his employer (or former employer) off his trail? What is LAMP? Look at me post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Glad his first visit was Buffalo. But there will be others. It would probably take 3 years for 10 million to sign him today. can't see offering him that. We will be a running team this year. So why give that money to a 2nd tight end? Where did you get this figure from? Because he was not going make close to that mark before being released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy McFiddish Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 This would be an awesome pick up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offsides#76FredSmerlas Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Yo can't run if you don't have a good threat of a passing game. How do you explain the last two years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 How do you explain the last two years? How well did the run game go when TT & top WRs were out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 If these disclosures are true, I'd begin to question where Leroi is coming from or who he is. First disclosing the Bills Board, now using his influence to try to break news that Beane is working unofficially for the Bills? At best a LAMP poster dishing on his organization for "glory", and at worst out to hurt the team. fully agree. Leroi has been a little off recently. Unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Must be for the GM role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 McDermott knows Barnidge as they spent 2 years in Carolina together in 2011 and 2012. This would be an excellent signing and I feel confident that MC will get this done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Where did you get this figure from? Because he was not going make close to that mark before being released. His previous contract was 3 years and $12M FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 It should be? Give complete autonomy to a guy who has 0 games logged as a head coach? He might end up panning out but giving someone with that lack of experience complete control doesn't seem like the prudent move. Agree. I'm not totally sold on the idea of McD having 100% authority from the get go, he's just too green. Simply having the owner's blessing isn't the same as a fully staffed and functional front office to support a new HC. I think they need to figure out the management structure stat. And I like Barnidge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offsides#76FredSmerlas Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) How well did the run game go when TT & top WRs were out? If you think that Tyrod was a good threat to throw the ball then you must have been watching a different team. We were #1 the last 2 years in rushing and Tyrod hasn't been out of the line up much. To make your opinion even more invalid, Watson has missed 11 games in 2 years and we still ranked #1. Edited May 3, 2017 by offsides#76FredSmerlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Is it the 9 TD in a season Barnidge that is visiting? Or is it the 44 receptions in his first 6 years Barnidge that is visiting? I hope it's the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Leroi nailed the trade up for Zay Jones. He has more trust than anyone in local or national media as far as I'm concerned. And this is what I've been assuming was happening. I don't remember him commenting during the draft? Was that in the shoutbox or an actual post about Zay Jones? Never saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) I don't remember him commenting during the draft? Was that in the shoutbox or an actual post about Zay Jones? Never saw it. I believe the 2nd round discussion thread. Edit: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/193573-your-favorite-targets-44-tomorrow/?p=4352383 Edited May 3, 2017 by CNY315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I definitely saw folks in the shoutbox saying Leroi said we were trying to trade up for Jones on Friday afternoon. I missed Leroi's actual post or shoutbox message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Sign him and then sign Blount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 He's reliable for the most part. He said a trade back was in play, as was Mahomes. We traded back. He said we were trading up for Zay, we traded up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Sign him and then sign Blount.that'd be my hope I'd also be open to a few other vets for nothing, and Boston. Blount is decent on special teams but has the whole character issue. Loved him out of niu. But he's not anything more than a 3rd back and that's where he need to be. Barnidge in 12-16 snaps a game is perfect. Boston as insurance to one of the dbs not getting it and as a coach is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 If you think that Tyrod was a good threat to throw the ball then you must have been watching a different team. We were #1 the last 2 years in rushing and Tyrod hasn't been out of the line up much. To make your opinion even more invalid, Watson has missed 11 games in 2 years and we still ranked #1. Over the last two years Bills have averaged 160 yds/game on the ground. Without TT the average goes to 105 yds/game. TT contributed about 35 rush yds/game, while EJ accounted for almost 30 yds/game. So TT's sheer presence adds another 25 yds per game, which you can attribute to the threat of him running or believe it or not passing the ball on scrambles (where he prefers RBs or TEs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 that'd be my hope I'd also be open to a few other vets for nothing, and Boston. Blount is decent on special teams but has the whole character issue. Loved him out of niu. But he's not anything more than a 3rd back and that's where he need to be. Barnidge in 12-16 snaps a game is perfect. Boston as insurance to one of the dbs not getting it and as a coach is great Blount carred the ball 299 times last year to the tune of 1,161 yards and 18 TDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) If these disclosures are true, I'd begin to question where Leroi is coming from or who he is. First disclosing the Bills Board, now using his influence to try to break news that Beane is working unofficially for the Bills? At best a LAMP poster dishing on his organization for "glory", and at worst out to hurt the team. Based on your last sentence, I believe we have pretty solid evidence that Leroi is, in fact, Russ Brandon Edited May 3, 2017 by JM57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 @jfowlerESPN Former Browns TE Gary Barnidge, who's visiting #Bills today, has two more visits planned next week, after attending the Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 @jfowlerESPN Former Browns TE Gary Barnidge, who's visiting #Bills today, has two more visits planned next week, after attending the Derby. Winning off the field?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 @jfowlerESPN Former Browns TE Gary Barnidge, who's visiting #Bills today, has two more visits planned next week, after attending the Derby. DraftDiamonds who comes here said he had 12 visits lined up. That seems kind of strange. I do think if he leaves without signing it may be tough to wrap him up. He will be in demand. He may want to play for a guaranteed winner at 31 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 @jfowlerESPN Former Browns TE Gary Barnidge, who's visiting #Bills today, has two more visits planned next week, after attending the Derby. He'll probably be there dressed like twins with Tom Brady and Julien Edelman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 DraftDiamonds who comes here said he had 12 visits lined up. That seems kind of strange. I do think if he leaves without signing it may be tough to wrap him up. He will be in demand. He may want to play for a guaranteed winner at 31 though.I know that he has "a few" but not sure of the number. I don't think that it's 12 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go-Bills Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 A must sign player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Must be for the GM role Ha! I laughed. As for Barnidge at TE, I'm all for it, because I've heard of him. Anyone know if he can block and/or play on the line? He's 6'5", 247 lbs., which could go either way. If he can play on the line, then it's great, because he'd serve as both depth in case Clay gets hurt (likely), and a potentially dangerous matchup in 2-TE sets. If he's only more of an H-back type, then he'd lose the depth appeal, but probably still worth it. It seems like we're on our 3rd or 4th straight O-coordinator who says he loves TEs and multi-TE sets, yet our TEs have been some of the worst in the league for years. Clay is fine, and Chandler was basically fine before him, but who's the last decent backup TE we had? McKellar? Potential negatives for signing Barnidge: He's already 31 - maybe he's losing athleticism or his body is starting to break down. He did nothing his first 6 years in the league, then came out of nowhere to put up monster numbers in 2015. Last year his numbers were okay, but a huge nosedive from 2015 - maybe he's turning back into a pumpkin? Barnidge has interest from multiple teams, so he won't be signing a super-cheap deal. I'm sure he won't break the bank, but it's still possible given the above doubts that he'll make more than he's worth. All in all, I think it's absolutely worth going for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I know that he has "a few" but not sure of the number. I don't think that it's 12 though. That dude gets on the phone and calls up agents. 12 seems ridiculous as far as visits go but I wouldn't doubt that 12 teams called his agent to see if there was interest. He's just a solid vet that as a two TE or backup would be a nice player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Mike GarafoloVerified account @MikeGarafolo 2m2 minutes agoMore Veteran TE Gary Barnidge, recently released by the Browns, is visiting the Buffalo Bills today, source said. what happened to that dude? Had an elite year with nobody at QB with them a few years ago and then disappeared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 what happened to that dude? Had an elite year with nobody at QB with them a few years ago and then disappeared Coleman and Pryor, they had nobody in 2015. Pryor and Coleman came on the scene and started taking his targets away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Coleman and Pryor, they had nobody in 2015. Pryor and Coleman came on the scene and started taking his targets away. Even still, you usually don't get rid of a productive player. Especially when you're not near the salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Blount is decent on special teams but has the whole character issue. Loved him out of niu. But he's not anything more than a 3rd back and that's where he need to be. NIU?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 NIU?? I am a duck and I'll punch you in the face after the game if you say otherwise, Bronco. - Blount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 NIU?? got him mixed up with garret wolf. no idea how. ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) Hearing he's hoping for Jax Edited May 3, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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