Tipster19 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 After hearing Old Beane talking in his PC it doesn’t strike me as a guy who is looking to be over aggressive in the draft. If he does seem to settle for a 2nd/3rd tier as he indicates then I would think a veteran would be helpful as a safety net. At one point Robinson had some decent value but has fallen off in the last few years. Is he a product of getting lost in the shuffle and/or landing up with inexperienced/journeymen (Pittsburgh) QBs? I dunno know if any of that is applicable but I do think that if Beane settles for somebody like McConkey then adding a veteran would hold some value for this offense. 2 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, Tipster19 said: After hearing Old Beane talking in his PC it doesn’t strike me as a guy who is looking to be over aggressive in the draft. If he does seem to settle for a 2nd/3rd tier as he indicates then I would think a veteran would be helpful as a safety net. At one point Robinson had some decent value but has fallen off in the last few years. Is he a product of getting lost in the shuffle and/or landing up with inexperienced/journeymen (Pittsburgh) QBs? I dunno know if any of that is applicable but I do think that if Beane settles for somebody like McConkey then adding a veteran would hold some value for this offense. Downvoted but nothing personal. He's just THAT washed. He's so washed the last time I saw him on TV he was talking about his game in the past tense. Bones on the beach washed. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Nope. If Sean McVay couldn't get anything out of him 2 years ago, no one else will now. He's done. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 I understand but boy oh boy a few years back this guy was making incredible catches. I still think if Beane doesn’t make WR a huge priority in the draft then he better bring in some kind of experienced WRs to add to this group. I saw somebody mention OBJ which would be great but not if he’s looking for big money. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I think he's toast. And was never great to begin with. If he was Jerry Rice at the end of his career,take a shot. But a WR who was Never great in his career,nah. Also,I'm not sure "settle" is the right description for McConkey. I think he'll be a good/solid player in the league for many years. Just not sure that equates to a first rd pick,at least for us, considering his fit at this time with our current roster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 24 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: I think he's toast. And was never great to begin with. If he was Jerry Rice at the end of his career,take a shot. But a WR who was Never great in his career,nah. Also,I'm not sure "settle" is the right description for McConkey. I think he'll be a good/solid player in the league for many years. Just not sure that equates to a first rd pick,at least for us, considering his fit at this time with our current roster I didn’t intend to throw any shade on McConkey, I misspoke there. I was really hoping and looking forward for Beane to find a way to draft Brian Thomas Jr but at this point I’m getting the feeling that is probably just a pipe dream. I wouldn’t be unhappy if Beane does end up just taking McConkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Absolutely not, he’s completely washed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) This is the equivalent of signing Allen Robinson. Dude is burnt toast.... Edited April 19 by billsbackto81 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Downvoted but nothing personal. He's just THAT washed. He's so washed the last time I saw him on TV he was talking about his game in the past tense. Bones on the beach washed. Spot on. This ☝️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Tipster19 said: I didn’t intend to throw any shade on McConkey, I misspoke there. I was really hoping and looking forward for Beane to find a way to draft Brian Thomas Jr but at this point I’m getting the feeling that is probably just a pipe dream. I wouldn’t be unhappy if Beane does end up just taking McConkey. I gotcha bud. I'm in the same frame of mind. But I really do like McConkey. I just wonder how many "slot" WRs we can truly use and thrive. A lack of diversity might bite us in the ass eventually. I guess we'll find out soon enough👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Downvoted but nothing personal. He's just THAT washed. He's so washed the last time I saw him on TV he was talking about his game in the past tense. Bones on the beach washed. What do you know about DJ Chark? Of the FA still available, he and Hunter Renfrew interest me the most, but from what others have told me Renfrew is most productive as a slot (so I think he duplicates Samuel and Shakir). Chark: -had 1000+ yd season with Minshew and Foles throwing to him, 700 yds when it was Minshew and Glennon -fell off the map under Urban Meyer and Darrell Bevell -has had 2 ok-ish 30 catch, 500 yd seasons since with DET and CAR -last 2 seasons average 17 and 15 Y/R, but he doesn't seem to be a deep guy - it's 12 YBC and 4 YAC, so maybe more of an intermediate/short guy? I really haven't watched the guy play, interest just based on the fact that he had shown a couple good seasons and a couple OK seasons, and he's not an antique (27), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 If he is the 2nd receiver, we draft, I am okay with McConkey. He is well-rounded and should be a good player. I just believe based off of tape and physical measurables that Allen can get these guys to a higher level: Thomas, Mitchell, or Legette. And, as others have said, McConkey seems to be a repetition of what we already have as far as targets for a slot receiver (Shakir) and more of a slot type TE in Kincaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Dj Chark is a free agent I’d go after. Give him an actual qb and he can replace gabe. Just get that number one in the first round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Tipster19 said: I didn’t intend to throw any shade on McConkey, I misspoke there. I was really hoping and looking forward for Beane to find a way to draft Brian Thomas Jr but at this point I’m getting the feeling that is probably just a pipe dream. I wouldn’t be unhappy if Beane does end up just taking McConkey. I don't think we have any clue as to what Beane will do, honestly. He left the strong impression that he's not enthused about giving up what he'd have to to move into the top 10, but he didn't rule it out, either. And he may not have to - in 2020, for example, when people were predicting IIRC that receivers would go high and 2 were projected to go in the top 10 by several boards, the 6 who were drafted in the 1st round were scattered from pick 12 to pick 25. The best 2 were arguably the 3rd and 5th drafted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 He averaged 2 catches and 20 yards more per game than me last year. The good news is that we caught the same amount of TDs on the season. Is this a serious question? That guy sucks. He’s done. Of course he isn’t worth a roster spot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I was so big on Robinson at one point, but he's done now. Add him to the list of great talents like Greg Jennings and Kenny Golladay, that sacrificed their prime years for money. Oh, what could have been... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 35 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: I gotcha bud. I'm in the same frame of mind. But I really do like McConkey. I just wonder how many "slot" WRs we can truly use and thrive. A lack of diversity might bite us in the ass eventually. I guess we'll find out soon enough👍 Ladd lined up at slot very little in college. He line up outside >70% of the time. Ladd, Shakir, and Kinkaid playing off each other would be great. Josh isn’t an anticipation thrower, he throws when he sees someone open. Nobody separates better than Ladd in this draft, including the big 3. His yac is great too. Weakness is getting away form bump and run, but that can be aleviated through motion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 No.. its all about the rookies now.. And yes.. I think we double dip on Wr's 1. in the 1st and one in the 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 You could do worse than Robinson as far as kicking the tires on a player but greater than 95% chance he is washed. He's not had a productive season since his very good 2020 season. He's been on 3 teams since 2020 and while he's not ancient at just 31 years old he is not young either. He also comes with a big injury history. My only optimistic case for him would be that he is coming off a fairly healthy season and at age 31 he may have a year left in the tank, plus as a camp body for the minimum deal you could do way worse. I would also say that while his numbers were garbage in 2023 despite staying healthy and starting 17 games, he was mired in a really bad Steelers offense with bad QB's and not the best schemes. Maybe if he is better health wise and in a better passing attack he can rebound? I doubt it, but like I said you are brining him in to be a camp body and maybe a PS vet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 He quit on the bears. I never want a player like that on the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 25 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Ladd lined up at slot very little in college. He line up outside >70% of the time. Ladd, Shakir, and Kinkaid playing off each other would be great. Josh isn’t an anticipation thrower, he throws when he sees someone open. Nobody separates better than Ladd in this draft, including the big 3. His yac is great too. Weakness is getting away form bump and run, but that can be aleviated through motion. I agree with this, I just think his projected role is slot,with flex outside at the next level. But that's exactly what Shakir and Samuel do. It'd be an interesting rotation for sure. Imagine the pre snap motions! I do however believe we need a true "x" ,and servicable blocker to contribute consistently as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Kelvin Benjamin v2 10 hours ago, BuffAlone said: I gotcha bud. I'm in the same frame of mind. But I really do like McConkey. I just wonder how many "slot" WRs we can truly use and thrive. A lack of diversity might bite us in the ass eventually. I guess we'll find out soon enough👍 McC can play the outside as well, not just slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 26 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: Kelvin Benjamin v2 McC can play the outside as well, not just slot. Yes,I know. But he's not a big bodied blocking type WR. That said,I'd be thrilled to have him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I forgot he was even in the league the last two seasons, as he's completely invisible these days. Give me a Mike Thomas or OBJ if adding a veteran to add to the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 7 years ago, yes. Now? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86poker Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Sign Chark Jr, draft Mcconkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 They'll be adding a vet WR post 6/1 I'd guess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: They'll be adding a vet WR post 6/1 I'd guess I agree. Hoping for OBJ on a decent 1 year deal to pare with a 1st round WR, Shakir and Kincaid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Logic Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 If we're doing WR reclamation projects, I'd rather kick the tires on Hunter Renfrow (28) or DJ Chark (27). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 12 hours ago, BuffAlone said: I agree with this, I just think his projected role is slot,with flex outside at the next level. But that's exactly what Shakir and Samuel do. It'd be an interesting rotation for sure. Imagine the pre snap motions! I do however believe we need a true "x" ,and servicable blocker to contribute consistently as well It would be interesting to see. Honestly, if they’d have resigned Gabe I could see Shakir sliding into Diggs old role, and McConkey taking up that old Beasley roll in last years offense. I’m not exactly sure how Brady is going to change things moving forward though, so it’s going to be guess as to how they see each of these players fitting into the offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Given Beane's penchant for bringing in end of life WRs, someone needs to stop this in its tracks... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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