Just Jack Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 how do you think the Bills would be now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 It would be incredibly underwhelming or we would have made a SB at least once. Probably the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) We’d probably have the same amount of rings as we do with McD But I’d probably like my chances more with Rex. He made it to 2 AFC championships with Mark Sanchez. McD can’t even do that with #17. Edited April 4 by HomeskillitMoorman 4 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 We'd be getting snacks and almost have built a bully. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Most advanced statistics indicate that the teams in 2015 and 2016 were better than the 2017 playoff team. It would be exciting to see Rex coach Josh. 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Rex Ryan inherited the #2 defense in the NFL from 2014. He proceeded to then turn them into a middling group in 2015 and hired his idiot brother to coach with him in 2016. He wouldn't have gotten this team to the Playoffs multiple times in a row, more or less win multiple division titles in a row. One of the most overrated coaches of all time. 14 2 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane nelson Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Josh would be with Carolina or perhaps Arizona after failing with the Bills and one other team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amprov56 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Going to be a long off season on TBD! 1 1 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 He would have been traded to the Texans. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amprov56 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 9 minutes ago, H2o said: Rex Ryan inherited the #2 defense in the NFL from 2014. He proceeded to then turn them into a middling group in 2015 and hired his idiot brother to coach with him in 2016. He wouldn't have gotten this team to the Playoffs multiple times in a row, more or less win multiple division titles in a row. One of the most overrated coaches of all time. Seriously, he had the defense and the coordinator Schwartz who got the best out of Mario Williams and Marcel Darius, Ryans ego sank him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 If Rex Ryan was the coach the Bills would have drafted Deshaun Watson instead of trading the pick to KC in 2017. Then there would have been the double scandal of massage therapists having Watson exposing himself & rubbing against them while Ryan fondled their feet. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Far, far more interesting press conferences. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I think we would have won at least 1 super bowl. Frasier/McD's candy ass defense has killed us in the playoffs. 1 2 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 36 minutes ago, uticaclub said: Most advanced statistics indicate that the teams in 2015 and 2016 were better than the 2017 playoff team. It would be exciting to see Rex coach Josh. Really? The reason they had good advanced statistics is because they were much more talented then the 2017 team. The reason they underperformed was an unprepared, disorganized, lazy, nepotism riddled, and generally awful coaching staff. Edited April 4 by Billy Claude 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 10 minutes ago, Billy Claude said: Really? The reason they had good advanced statistics is because they were much more talented then the 2017 team. The reason they underperformed was an unprepared, disorganized awful, nepotism riddled coaching staff. More talented? We had a huge influx of talent in 2017; nailed the draft, Poyer & Hyde, and Shady was healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Seeing as how Rex was a defensive coach and we had a terrible defense under him, I think it would have gone poorly. He would have been fired eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 13 minutes ago, uticaclub said: More talented? We had a huge influx of talent in 2017; nailed the draft, Poyer & Hyde, and Shady was healthy. Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods, Stephon Gilmore, Ronald Darby. Mario Williams for at least one year. All gone before the first preseason game. Rex never developed any player with the Bills. Poyer and Hyde were unproven backups. I doubt very much they would have been as good with Rex. Edited April 4 by Billy Claude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I don't think Josh would have been the pick. His footwork was bad. No way Rex would have liked his feet. We likely end up with Rosen. Rosen screams "I get pedicures". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Overall the W/L would probably have been worse But we would have advanced further in the postseason 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) Maybe they draft Patrick Mahomes. Terry and Doug liked him we were told but there is no way that a lame duck GM gets to make the franchise altering, QB choice. That choice was clearly going to be made in 2018. I think if they hadn't lost that game to the Dolphins in OT where there were only 10 on the field after a timeout, Rex might not have been fired. Edited April 4 by JESSEFEFFER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 If McD is as bad as you all think I better see some SuperBowl posts!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 26 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Overall the W/L would probably have been worse But we would have advanced further in the postseason I actually agree with this 100% it was the first thought I had as well Edited April 4 by Mikie2times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 54 minutes ago, amprov56 said: Seriously, he had the defense and the coordinator Schwartz who got the best out of Mario Williams and Marcel Darius, Ryans ego sank him! Didn’t he have Mario pulling back and defending the pass all the time. Is he the coach who had Mario wear those stupid red contacts so he was sooo scary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 38 minutes ago, H2o said: Rex Ryan inherited the #2 defense in the NFL from 2014. He proceeded to then turn them into a middling group in 2015 and hired his idiot brother to coach with him in 2016. He wouldn't have gotten this team to the Playoffs multiple times in a row, more or less win multiple division titles in a row. One of the most overrated coaches of all time. Yes! He was a crappy HC who got lucky a couple of times and managed to get a few playoff wins. In his 6 seasons with the Jests, he had only 2 winning seasons. His offenses were god awful even with a young QB drafted in the top 5. He did NOTHING to develop Mark Sanchez, so why would anyone think that he could take a raw young QB like Allen and do anything with him? After his failure with the Jests, he mismanaged and miscoached the Bills for almost 2 seasons before being fired, leaving a talent-depleted team for McDermott. Ryan was a step up from Dick Jauron (easily one of the worst HCs in the NFL in this century), but probably a down-grade from Gailey and Marrone who had significantly less talent to work with. This one is for all you Ryan fans out there ... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Rex Ryan was in vacation mode when he coached the Bills, so I doubt it would have worked out for the better. The real question is -- how different would the last couple years have gone if the Bills replaced McDermott with Daboll after 13 seconds? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Depends on who the GM is, Whaley and Rex did not mesh which was recipe for disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 9 minutes ago, SoTier said: Yes! He was a crappy HC who got lucky a couple of times and managed to get a few playoff wins. In his 6 seasons with the Jests, he had only 2 winning seasons. His offenses were god awful even with a young QB drafted in the top 5. He did NOTHING to develop Mark Sanchez, so why would anyone think that he could take a raw young QB like Allen and do anything with him? After his failure with the Jests, he mismanaged and miscoached the Bills for almost 2 seasons before being fired, leaving a talent-depleted team for McDermott. Ryan was a step up from Dick Jauron (easily one of the worst HCs in the NFL in this century), but probably a down-grade from Gailey and Marrone who had significantly less talent to work with. This one is for all you Ryan fans out there ... Well stated. Rex is my least favourite Bills coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I would be wearing my Superbowl champions t-shirt right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 McDermott's in-game management is questionable, but he was Vince Lombardi compared to Ryan's game management. Who can forget the penalties, including one or two for 12 men on the field every game? There was a lackadaisical culture, and Rob Ryan's defenses made almost every quarterback look like Allen or Mahomes. There was no culture, and most of the more talented players were there for the paycheck. Revisionist history can make the grass seem greener, but most of us couldn't wait to see Ryan gone by the end of 2016. I know we are frustrated with being stuck in the mud as a playoff but not a Super Bowl team, but let's not forget where we were in the drought. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, uticaclub said: Most advanced statistics indicate that the teams in 2015 and 2016 were better than the 2017 playoff team. It would be exciting to see Rex coach Josh. I assume you got heat sheets to back that up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Just Jack said: how do you think the Bills would be now? I don't think we'd have had winning seasons in 2017 or 2019 and he'd have been fired. There is zero chance he'd still be Head Coach. He was ***** terrible. 11 minutes ago, Billy Claude said: Well stated. Rex is my least favourite Bills coach. And mine. And by a long, long, long, long way. The guy is a total fraud. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just now, GunnerBill said: I don't think we'd have had winning seasons in 2017 or 2019 and he'd have been fired. There is zero chance he'd still be Head Coach. He was ***** terrible. He was a really good coach who did not adjust to the new generation of the NFL At one point he was at the game and it slowly passed him up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, uticaclub said: More talented? We had a huge influx of talent in 2017; nailed the draft, Poyer & Hyde, and Shady was healthy. The 2015 roster was by a distance the best Bills roster of the drought. And played a soft as ***** schedule. And Rex went 8-8 after being 6-8 and out of the running with two weeks to go. He ***** sucked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Back to back AFCCG w Mark Sanchez Beat the dynasty mode Patriots in Foxborough along the way but yeah he sucks😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He was a really good coach who did not adjust to the new generation of the NFL At one point he was at the game and it slowly passed him up I don't think he ever tried in Buffalo. He was half assing it the moment he arrived. To be honest I always thought he wae overrated riding the coat tails of some talented defenses in Baltimore and New York. I hated the hire. When I speak to my ex we still laugh about my reaction the day he was hired. I was close to jump off a bridge territory. But we didn't even get the best Rex. We got the pay cheque collector. Edited April 4 by GunnerBill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think he ever tried in Buffalo. He was half assing it the moment he arrived. To be honest I always thought he wae overrated riding the coat tails of some talented defenses in Baltimore and New York. I hated the hire. When I speak to my ex we still laugh about my reaction the day he was hired. I was close to jump off a bridge territory. But we didn't even get the best Rex. We got the pay cheque collector. Well that's the thing.. we got the rex that stopped trying Not fat Rex who was the best defensive mind in the world... Just cuz you were the best doesn't mean you stay the best... Young hungry coaches kept adapting and he stayed stagnant Remember at the end of the day it is the Jimmy's and the Joe's not the x's and o's... You need good professional football players to buy in... Because they don't always He got professional football players to buy in to his system for a decade with top notch professional results He certainly was not overrated when he cared Edited April 4 by Buffalo716 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 We wouldn’t have been bothered by Diggs’ cryptic tweets because we’d be occupied with Rex’s weird feet tweets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 "Rex Ryan liked this tweet" Josh: WTF man?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 The first time Rex would have seen Josh run over a defender, he would have said, "See there, now that's a bully!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) @SoTier You literally have that much blind hatred for his stint in buffalo that you disagree that at one point he was one of the best defensive minds in the world? There is not one person in NFL circles who would say late 90s early 2000 rex Ryan was not a top defensive mind He was ahead of the game and his system and the numbers they put up show it His time in Buffalo has nothing to do about how good he was when his head was in the game in his early days He wasn't a good head coach in Buffalo...... But he was a tremendously good football coach at one point in his life His Oklahoma Sooners defense was very good before he went to Baltimore .. the Sooners were terrible his only year there.. and he inherited a defense that gave up 30 points a game and was one of the worst in the country... His 1 year his defense kept Oklahoma in games... And was the best part of the team He definitely started getting full of himself in New York City and that is when he was done He obviously was a joke in Buffalo @GunnerBill He certainly did not suck his way up the coaching ranks he's always maxed out talent before he stopped caring Edited April 5 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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