BuffaloBillyG Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Skipped Combine and now skipping this. Wouldn't shock me if he's not the 1st WR taken after all. Great film for sure. But I think he's gonna get passed by for one of the other top 2 guys. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 not a chance he is passed over. he goes first WR and top 5. dude is a likely generational talent and worth the trade up to get 3 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 How much more do they need to see and hear from him? He's a top WR and will be drafted early. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Barring any surprises I expect him to be a Cardinal at #4. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, Gregg said: Barring any surprises I expect him to be a Cardinal at #4. i could see the cards trading out of that spot easily....like very easily. to collect a bounty of picks to use on more weapons than just 1. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 The thing is.. when you are as highly ranked as Marvin Harrison Jr., all you can do is hurt yourself by doing these extra workouts. He's already a top 5, maybe top 3 pick. I would think a physical is appropriate so teams can see he doesn't have any injury, but other than that check the video if you want to see what he can do. 1 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, boyst said: i could see the cards trading out of that spot easily....like very easily. to collect a bounty of picks to use on more weapons than just 1. True but it would have to be a hell of a deal for them to trade out of #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 well, Marv did specifically say Josh Allen as one of the QB's he'd love to play with. Didn't mention Mahomes....so I already like the guy Beane should at least explore what it would take to get to pick 4 or 6 for Harrison or Nabers The Cardinals are a dumb franchise who knows maybe it would be a favorable price. The Giants connection at 6 would make a lot of sense and likely a fair deal 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I love that he’s telling these teams to shove it regarding these workouts. Just another data point for them to critique and nit pick you on. Go look at the tape to see what he’s capable of. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: well, Marv did specifically say Josh Allen as one of the QB's he'd love to play with. Didn't mention Mahomes....so I already like the guy Beane should at least explore what it would take to get to pick 4 or 6 for Harrison or Nabers The Cardinals are a dumb franchise who knows maybe it would be a favorable price. The Giants connection at 6 would make a lot of sense and likely a fair deal I don't think the Bills have what it takes to move up that high. #28 and a package of other picks won't get it done. Unless the Bills include their 1st in 2025,2026 which Beane isn't going to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: well, Marv did specifically say Josh Allen as one of the QB's he'd love to play with. Didn't mention Mahomes....so I already like the guy Beane should at least explore what it would take to get to pick 4 or 6 for Harrison or Nabers The Cardinals are a dumb franchise who knows maybe it would be a favorable price. The Giants connection at 6 would make a lot of sense and likely a fair deal Sorry but you need to put this fantasy to bed. It would START with Bills 1st and 2nd this year PLUS next year's 1st and 2nd. Moving from 28 to 4 is a huge jump. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=buf 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Nothing to prove. He’s a true alpha and anyone that can’t see that spends too much time on the Internet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I seen some of the Mocks that had the Jets making a play for MHJ.....i do not want him in our division, nor conference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 10 minutes ago, Blank Stare said: I love that he’s telling these teams to shove it regarding these workouts. Just another data point for them to critique and nit pick you on. Go look at the tape to see what he’s capable of. Completely agree, especially for guys who know they are going in the top 10 or so. The combine is great for guys who come from small schools, who had limited playing time or tape. For guys who played at big schools who have shown out time and time again against top competition the combine and pro days are really just a way for the NFL to continue the yearlong news cycle. For a top ten guy like Harrison the risk of getting hurt or putting any sort of doubt into scouts minds by running a slow time really isnt worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 LA is a much better spot for him anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Guess Harrison already knows where he is headed and is not risking injury at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 He should just skip his NFL career and go right to the HOF 1 1 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 29 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Skipped Combine and now skipping this. Wouldn't shock me if he's not the 1st WR taken after all. Great film for sure. But I think he's gonna get passed by for one of the other top 2 guys. Folks, MHJ is one of the most overrated NFL prospects since Sam Darnold. If it wasn’t for his name, he’d be considered a borderline first rounder. Good hands and good size, but no explosiveness, no YAC ability and obviously an entitled attitude. Wouldn’t surprise me if he runs a 4.6. Anyone who takes him over Nabers or Odunze is making a huge mistake. 26 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: well, Marv did specifically say Josh Allen as one of the QB's he'd love to play with. Didn't mention Mahomes....so I already like the guy Beane should at least explore what it would take to get to pick 4 or 6 for Harrison or Nabers The Cardinals are a dumb franchise who knows maybe it would be a favorable price. The Giants connection at 6 would make a lot of sense and likely a fair deal Please stop with this nonsense. 1 1 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 37 minutes ago, boyst said: not a chance he is passed over. he goes first WR and top 5. dude is a likely generational talent and worth the trade up to get Did you watch the Chris Simms bit on the top WR’s? Not saying he’s right, but he makes a pretty good case for him being WR #3 in this draft. He looks like a man among boys, but Simms doesn’t see the same burst you get from the LSU WR’s who can just run away from the pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 15 minutes ago, mannc said: Folks, MHJ is one of the most overrated NFL prospects since Sam Darnold. If it wasn’t for his name, he’d be considered a borderline first rounder. Good hands and good size, but no explosiveness, no YAC ability and obviously an entitled attitude. Wouldn’t surprise me if he runs a 4.6. Anyone who takes him over Nabers or Odunze is making a huge mistake. Please stop with this nonsense. I’m not a fan of MHJ. Saw him in person and watched a bunch of games on tv. I can’t put my finger on what it is exactly I don’t like but I don’t think he’s going to be this all time great WR. Kind of reminds me of the hype Watkins had. I feel he will have a similar career. Edit. Just looked at Watkins stats. I think MHJ will put up better numbers but nothing crazy. Edited March 20 by Not at the table Karlos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 This is a big nothingburger. MHJ has exactly nothing to prove and this won’t affect his draft status in the least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 At this rate, I expect this to be the route most top 10 players go, who are considered to be the consensus best at their position. Unless the player is worried that someone else's pro day could result in jumping them in draft order, what do they have to prove? Now, if he was skipping interviews, that would be a problem for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 7 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: This is a big nothingburger. MHJ has exactly nothing to prove and this won’t affect his draft status in the least is a nothing burger still a burger? If not then wouldn't it just be nothing? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I don’t mind him skipping the workout, but the really important question is….how cryptic are his tweets?? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/college/football/2023/09/13/marvin-harrison-jr-max-speed-on-first-td-reception-of-2023-ohio-state-wide-receiver-brian-hartline/70842006007/ yeah he's really overrated! LMAO Considering the above and his Dad was a 4.3 guy, I'm thinking that is much closer to his time than 4.6 Edited March 20 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I understand MHJ not participating. Imo not having a Pro day hurts the program. Late rd guys or possible UDFA’s need as many chances as they can get to make an impression on somebody within an organization. Gotta have the other higher prospects working out to bring in more eyeballs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Ain't gonna happen. But, Can you imagine the Bills offense with this guy? good luck stopping them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 58 minutes ago, boyst said: not a chance he is passed over. he goes first WR and top 5. dude is a likely generational talent and worth the trade up to get Man i'm sure he is a great player i haven't seen any thing of him just his old man but actions speak louder than words !! If that be the fact in this case cancelling both of his showings that in some way indicates to me that he is saying "I am that good & don't need to show you any more" which could be translated into DIVA !! I hope i'm wrong and that he just has a good grasp on it all & like i've heard from some that he would rather be getting ready for the NFL season that lies ahead rather than what i have stated . But if mommy, Daddy, Coaches, & NFL scouts have told him for how ever long they have been that he is the best man i hop that's not a huge red flag ! Remember Kellen Winslow the second ?? Just a thought . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 27 minutes ago, Augie said: Did you watch the Chris Simms bit on the top WR’s? Not saying he’s right, but he makes a pretty good case for him being WR #3 in this draft. He looks like a man among boys, but Simms doesn’t see the same burst you get from the LSU WR’s who can just run away from the pack. Odunze is who i'd secretly trade up for because MHJ is too much to get. 34 minutes ago, mannc said: Folks, MHJ is one of the most overrated NFL prospects since Sam Darnold. If it wasn’t for his name, he’d be considered a borderline first rounder. Good hands and good size, but no explosiveness, no YAC ability and obviously an entitled attitude. Wouldn’t surprise me if he runs a 4.6. Anyone who takes him over Nabers or Odunze is making a huge mistake. Please stop with this nonsense. mike evans rana 4.53 and was scouted similarly to MHJ. I think MHJ completes a career similar to Moulds or Evans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, boyst said: Odunze is who i'd secretly trade up for because MHJ is too much to get. I think Simms had him as #4. I’d obviously love to have any of them, but it’s too rich for our situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: well, Marv did specifically say Josh Allen as one of the QB's he'd love to play with. Didn't mention Mahomes....so I already like the guy Beane should at least explore what it would take to get to pick 4 or 6 for Harrison or Nabers The Cardinals are a dumb franchise who knows maybe it would be a favorable price. The Giants connection at 6 would make a lot of sense and likely a fair deal Ignore the “realists” lol…. I’d love to believe into existence that the Bills are doing everything in their power to give Allen a MHJ, it’s fun to think of the possibilities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 29 minutes ago, Augie said: Did you watch the Chris Simms bit on the top WR’s? Not saying he’s right, but he makes a pretty good case for him being WR #3 in this draft. He looks like a man among boys, but Simms doesn’t see the same burst you get from the LSU WR’s who can just run away from the pack. He is all about size, speed and twitch. I think this take he will eventually want back. Nabers ok. Thomas jr. though is not the prospect Harrison Jr is. Thomas looks the part and is the most impressive athlete at the positions this year. Harrison is just so smooth and steady. He reminds me of Larry Fitz. Not the crazy speed or twitch but will have a 10 plus year career no doubt. As much as his name brought him hype it also brought him pressure. He surpassed it all. Job on the line, bullet to your head Harrison is the most sure thing at a position in awhile and that is why he goes wr 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 6 minutes ago, julian said: Ignore the “realists” lol…. I’d love to believe into existence that the Bills are doing everything in their power to give Allen a MHJ, it’s fun to think of the possibilities. Diggs and 60. I wouldnt give up Diggs and a first. It will take more but that is too much. Best case he produces like Diggs. Diggs is a top 10 wr right now. Your buying age and price so understand the kicker for both with Diggs but I wont sell the farm for another wr. KC and before that NE proved that to be faulty roster construction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Nabers is the guy I would love for us to trade up for. Not happening but it would get me really excited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Troy Franklin to Skip Leg Day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) Another red flag 🚩 for this guy…. Refused to workout at the combine, was the only guy at the combine that didn't take questions from the media, antisocial, refused to workout at his pro day. all combined a first…. I think Nabers is the best WR in this draft. Edited March 20 by wppete 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 If my kid was a consensus top 5 pick, I would advise him to do the same. What's the point? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 43 minutes ago, boyst said: mike evans rana 4.53 and was scouted similarly to MHJ. I think MHJ completes a career similar to Moulds or Evans Evans is an interesting comp, but I don't think Harrison is nearly as big as Evans. Evans is just a huge WR, and obviously, he's an absolute dog. It remains to be seen whether Harrison can even run a 4.5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, mannc said: Evans is an interesting comp, but I don't think Harrison is nearly as big as Evans. Evans is just a huge WR, and obviously, he's an absolute dog. It remains to be seen whether Harrison can even run a 4.5. No it doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, mannc said: Folks, MHJ is one of the most overrated NFL prospects since Sam Darnold. If it wasn’t for his name, he’d be considered a borderline first rounder. Good hands and good size, but no explosiveness, no YAC ability and obviously an entitled attitude. Wouldn’t surprise me if he runs a 4.6. Anyone who takes him over Nabers or Odunze is making a huge mistake. Please stop with this nonsense. Not that I think he is terrible but he is ooooooooooooooverrated. He has issues tracking the ball which will be more problematic in the NFL than they were in college.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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