Warriorspikes51 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Don Otreply said: No worries, Just wait, it will be a safety as our first pick next week…, There isn't a Safety worth a Round 1 selection 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) Another year gone by and people are still advocating for drafting defensive line in the 1st. Just wow. Edited March 20 by Chicken Boo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, Chicken Boo said: Another year gone by and people are still advocating for drafting defensive line in the 1st. Just wow. well at the present we only have 2 NFL DT's.....and the remaining market seems pretty bare. Personally, I'd like to see Beane use a 5th or 6th to acquire a capable DT from another roster 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: There isn't a Safety worth a Round 1 selection It was sarcasm, I should have noted that, 😁👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 57 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I hope Marv does not go to the jets! Will Harbaugh make him wear a Michigan uni instead of a Chargers one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 If we are going DL, I would rather trade back to the early 2nd round, and pick up an extra 3rd or 4th rounder… 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 34 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: well at the present we only have 2 NFL DT's.....and the remaining market seems pretty bare. Personally, I'd like to see Beane use a 5th or 6th to acquire a capable DT from another roster Sounds smart. I wonder if Harrison Phillips is available? He was available at the deadline. They could trade a low pick for him and extend him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 39 minutes ago, philholbroo said: They may want to take dl, but I think one of their biggest worries will be keeping someone off chiefs. barring they don't trade up ahead of bills again. I kinda hope they do. Let them use some resources and make the decision to move back easier, grab a 3rd rounder and still get a quality WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 DT? Yes. Round 1? No 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: If we are going DL, I would rather trade back to the early 2nd round, and pick up an extra 3rd or 4th rounder… I believe there are 5 teams with two 2nds and 4 or more with two 3rds. ( Next years 1st could get us one of each.) This is the year for Beane to not only stock the cupboard, but get hopefully 5 or more starting quality players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Another year gone by and people are still advocating for drafting defensive line in the 1st. Just wow. Oliver and Rousseau. Not bad. 4 play every snap. 3-4 others historically play 40% of the snaps in our defense. They have drafted 1 edge and 1 DT. Edited March 20 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Love Sweat, I wouldn’t be upset if he was the pic as long as they grab a receiver in the second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 5 minutes ago, nosejob said: I believe there are 5 teams with two 2nds and 4 or more with two 3rds. ( Next years 1st could get us one of each.) This is the year for Beane to not only stock the cupboard, but get hopefully 5 or more starting quality players. I agree. The Bills should be able to hit free agency a little harder next year to offset the draft pick as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, The Firebaugh Kid said: Love Sweat, I wouldn’t be upset if he was the pic as long as they grab a receiver in the second. Sweat you wait until 60. At 28 you would want an inside pass rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I would actually love to see the Bills raise Oliver and Rousseau’s playing time to around the 80% range. It’s time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: There isn't a Safety worth a Round 1 selection If Cooper DeJean was there at 28 would not surprise me. Not saying that's what I want but they still need 2 FS. Definitely McD guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 29 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Oliver and Rousseau. Not bad. 4 play every snap. 3-4 others historically play 40% of the snaps in our defense. They have drafted 1 edge and 1 DT. I don't care what they've drafted in the past. I suggest "Wizard" Beane get to work and start filling these holes now. You have an elite QB, that needs the best talent possible around him to succeed. Anything less is selling this franchise short. A DT at #28 is not putting this team in the Super Bowl next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: A DT at #28 is not putting this team in the Super Bowl next year. I don’t think anything is to be honest, not at 28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Newton and Murphy would make you think real hard. With the Qbs, Wrs, Corners, and oline talent and highly reated d-lineman might be at 28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: There isn't a Safety worth a Round 1 selection Agree, unless you think Cooper DeJean ends up at safety. I think he can play corner though and if you are drafting him in round 1 I think you probably have to believe that too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Are there any WRs that would not be worth the pick at 28? Or do we just pick any WR regardless of what’s left just cause of need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 27 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I don’t think anything is to be honest, not at 28. One of these top flight wideouts with Josh and Diggs and Kincaid drawing attention... I'm leaning toward an immediate impact. 700+ yards. 8-12 TDs. Lofty expectations, I know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: One of these top flight wideouts with Josh and Diggs and Kincaid drawing attention... I'm leaning toward an immediate impact. 700+ yards. 8-12 TDs. Lofty expectations, I know. I’m just saying but that’s Gabe Davis #s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I’m just saying but that’s Gabe Davis #s. Correct, but add in the hopeful production of Curtis Samuel and improved chemistry with Kincaid as well. Gabe Davis numbers from rookie start to look damn good then. Edited March 20 by Chicken Boo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I think Johnny Newton is a steal at #28, I really do. He is a top 10 talent in this class for me. I absolutely love him. However, I will make the same point I have made over and over.... the second best and most impactful player on the Bills in 2023 was Ed Oliver. He played 70% of the snaps and when you have paid a DL that kind of money you need them to be on the field in that range. Newton is a 3T. Can he play some 1T, sure. Hell Ed Oliver played a ton of 1T his second season with the Bills when Star opted out because the other DTs sucked against the run. But that isn't where you will see him to best effect. Newton can be a stud 3T in the NFL. But I don't think the Bills can afford to spend their 1st round pick on the second most settled position on the team after Quarterback. He is two spots off the bottom of that list and yet just outplayed half those above him. I am not into trading up for him, but if Latu got to #28 I'd pick him. His point was in 7 drafts they have drafted exactly two defensive tackles - Oliver and Phillips. That is because they have spent way too many FA $$s there IMO. he can make his own point with me. that's not what he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) Jeremiah describes the pick as a "slightly undersized" DT. If there's a big space eater that can wreck havoc with the offensive line and blow up the line of scrimmage consistently like a Chris Jones then I'm all in on DT. But such a player wouldn't last until 28. At 28 best WR prospect available and fill in the defense in the 2nd and later. Edited March 20 by All_Pro_Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 29 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Are there any WRs that would not be worth the pick at 28? Or do we just pick any WR regardless of what’s left just cause of need. 90% of the people here are going to be outraged because the Bills didn’t take a WR in the first round - or they’re going to be outraged by the WR the Bills took in the first round. Then within two weeks those same 90% will have talked themselves into believing that the player the Bills drafted was 100% the correct decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nedboy7 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 15 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: 90% of the people here are going to be outraged because the Bills didn’t take a WR in the first round - or they’re going to be outraged by the WR the Bills took in the first round. Then within two weeks those same 90% will have talked themselves into believing that the player the Bills drafted was 100% the correct decision. It’s hard to remain in a state of outrage. But we do a decent job on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 18 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: It's not the preferred choice by me or most fans. But it's not an "AWFUL" idea. Right now we have Ed Oliver and Daquan Jones at DT and that's literally it. And we use a heavy rotation there. DT will probably be one of our first 2 picks. And there's an argument to be made with how deep WR is and how thin top prospect D-Line talent is that it makes more sense to take the DT first and trade up in Round 2 for a WR. I'd rather we didn't do that. But to say there isn't merit in the idea or that it's "AWFUL" isn't true. If you waste a first round pick on a player you plan to not start and rotate in for less than 50% of defensive snaps, it should be grounds for immediate firing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 The issue I see. The two DT projected to go in the first round would be back ups to Oliver. In the 2nd round there’s projected 3, that I see making an immediate impact as back ups. I could see getting a 2nd round DT and then doubling down in the 4th or 5th. It’s not the best DT draft, a lot of lighter guys that could never fill Jones’ spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Like most fans I'm onboard with taking a receiver with our first pick at #28. The Bills O could really do with an X who can reliably stretch the field. Subject to finding a power back in FA of the draft (A. Estime?), adding that skillset would complete the weaponry for Allen and Brady and put the onus on them because there would be plenty of offensive talent. I have a feeling that the Bills could well go defence (DT or secondary)or edge at 28 depending on how the board looks and try to move down from 60 for probably Franklin or maybe Leggette in the second. Or they may trade down and look to get one of those guys with their first pick. If Thomas or AD Mitchell was available at 28 I'd just take either, recognizing that neither is a perfect can't miss prospect. Wouldn't want to see those guys with PM in KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 It is all going to come down to perceived value, supply, and demand. A run on receivers or d-tackles might force Beane in one direction. It could also be a situation where a player drops and is the best value on the board. We won't know for sure until the draft unfolds. I am confident that having 5 or 6 teams taking QB's before pick 28 will guarantee that some really good value will be available. As free agency unfolds; WR, Safety, and d-tackle appear to be the most important needs. And to a lesser degree, they also need to add at CB and IOL. Because of the concentration of positional needs and the number of picks, Beane will be able to trade picks to move around and still pick more than one in some of these position groups. It's no surprise to me that Beane has himself in a great position going into the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, nedboy7 said: Are there any WRs that would not be worth the pick at 28? Or do we just pick any WR regardless of what’s left just cause of need. It is highly probable that a WR worthy of pick 28 will be available. There are also a large number of receivers that make sense for a day two pick and should not be selected in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 19 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: /wrist Good Lord, this would be an AWFUL idea McDermott effect, the guy will never learn that your not getting to the Super Bowl investing most of your prime resources into your defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 14 minutes ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said: It is highly probable that a WR worthy of pick 28 will be available. There are also a large number of receivers that make sense for a day two pick and should not be selected in the first round. The problem with that strategy is that seemingly every year, there is major run on WRs early in the second round. The year we drafted Cook was an example. I think Beane really wanted one of the WRs, but they were all gone by the time our number came up and Beane kept trading back...I suspect guys like Leggette, Franklin, Worthy, McConkey and Coleman will get snapped up by midway through round 2, if they don't go in the first. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 11 hours ago, Bookie Man said: Edge and DT, whether we like it or not are just as big a need as WR. Tell me why they aren't as big a need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, BarleyNY said: 90% of the people here are going to be outraged because the Bills didn’t take a WR in the first round - or they’re going to be outraged by the WR the Bills took in the first round. Then within two weeks those same 90% will have talked themselves into believing that the player the Bills drafted was 100% the correct decision. Nothing truer has been spoken on this board. If it’s not a WR or a big one or the fastest guy they’ll B word. The outrage of the Kincaid pick was laughable last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Tell me why they aren't as big a need. I think they are. I was wanting a shot at Brian Thomas. But looking at it, smart move go DL 1st, WR 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 21 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: It's not the preferred choice by me or most fans. But it's not an "AWFUL" idea. Right now we have Ed Oliver and Daquan Jones at DT and that's literally it. And we use a heavy rotation there. DT will probably be one of our first 2 picks. And there's an argument to be made with how deep WR is and how thin top prospect D-Line talent is that it makes more sense to take the DT first and trade up in Round 2 for a WR. I'd rather we didn't do that. But to say there isn't merit in the idea or that it's "AWFUL" isn't true. Please don’t discuss logic in the face of an emotional knee jerk reaction. After all there is 100% success with WR’s taken in late rd#1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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