Chaos Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) My personal opinion is that all sports franchise gms and coaches spend a considerable amount of effort to manage expectations. Thier key to personal success is not winning championships, the key to success is beating expectations. The lower one can set the expecations, the more likely one is to succeed. Another personal opinion is that the Bills organization is masterful at managing expectations. One pillar of that strategy is "we were so awful in the past, that any appearance of competence oughta be satisfactory to the fans in the cheap seat". Fans love activity in the offseason. We have been treated to a lot of activity this week. The consensus opinion about every decision seems to be "this is great" and "this had to be done". So I polling at this point, what does it all mean for 2024? Edited March 8 by Chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Schedule is brutal. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 It means we have FA and a draft to go through before anyone can set any kind or realistic expectations for the 2024 Buffalo Bills. The HOPE is a Super Bowl win, of course. But hope and expectations are 2 vastly different things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I don't think the Bills are satisfied, resting on their laurels, or trying to sell a bill of goods based on how bad they were during the drought. While not everyone on this board will agree with every decision they make, or how they go about it, I don't doubt that the Bills organization is trying to do what they think is necessary to get the team to a championship. Some decisions work out and some don't. They paid Von Miller a boatload of cash as they thought he was the missing piece to getting sufficient pressure on QBs (Mahomes in particular) in big games. Then he tore up his knee and he has not been the same player (yet). Overall, it has not worked out, but it's a move that's reflective of the team's desire to get a championship. Cleaning up a bad cap situation is also something they have to do in order to get better, even if it means taking a step back to go two steps forward. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 We’re going to win it all! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Obviously, everything depends on health. But I love the core of this team. I think w/ Brady being able to fully implement his own offense, JA w/ Kincaid in his 2nd year, Diggs healthier, Shakir really emerging, Cook & what will likely be a 1st round WR will put up a lot of points. On defense, we'll have to see how it goes - more guys are being replaced there. But younger & faster might be better in '24. I don't feel like there is much chance that we won't win the division again. From there, all we can is hope we're a little healthier than this past season, and that we get hot at the right time. I voted "win SB." 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I don't have expectations, beyond that the Bills will be good and in the playoffs. I think that's the team they are - this team will be good so long as owner-GM-HC stay together. How much more they will be, I have no expectations. If it comes together well, they can win the Super Bowl. If it doesn't, well, they'll fall short. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I expect the Bills to be a contender and to have another shot at a championship. Remember: Expectations - Reality = Dissappintment. Keep your unrealistic expectations in check and you'll enjoy your fandom much more. You can hope and believe that a championship is possible, but to EXPECT one is just foolish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 26 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Schedule is brutal. Says every fan ever season 🤣🤣👀 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, JohnNord said: Says every fan ever season 🤣🤣👀 It is. You can’t predict injuries but they have one of the hardest schedules I’ve ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: It is. You can’t predict injuries but they have one of the hardest schedules I’ve ever seen. BS…People said the same last year. And the year before. And the year before that. We don’t even know the full rosters yet or how teams will perform and you’re already annoying this the “hardest schedule ever.” Peak offseason overreaction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JohnNord said: BS…People said the same last year. And the year before. And the year before that. We don’t even know the full rosters yet or how teams will perform and you’re already annoying this the “hardest schedule ever.” Peak offseason overreaction They literally play the 4 best teams in the NFL, 49ers, Chiefs, Lions, and Ravens. I mean you can look at the opponents. Make projections. It’s brutal. Edited March 7 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: They literally play the 4 best teams in the NFL, 49ers, Chiefs, Lions, and Ravens. I mean you can look at the opponents. Make projections. It’s brutal. Don’t those teams also have brutal schedules? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Don’t those teams also have brutal schedules? I think we have the hardest schedule in the league. I guess maybe im overrating the Jets. I feel like they’re a top 10 roster. Dolphins also top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 There's a lot of fans who must enjoy pain. Masochists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I think they've kind of hit their ceiling Divisional Rd exit or earlier 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 McD told everyone we are winning the Super Bowl. Didn't he say it is not a question of if but when? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 50 percent win SB.. Sounds about right… Glass half full/ half empty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I really like that we have some good excuses in case we under-perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I’d be surprised if they don’t make the playoffs. Anything beyond that prediction is a crapshoot. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: I really like that we have some good excuses in case we under-perform. Excuses don’t work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I saw a podcast yesterday made by a Jets fan talking about yesterday‘s blood leading and how it is giving them the window to winning the AFC East We cannot allow that to happen 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 9 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I think they've kind of hit their ceiling Divisional Rd exit or earlier Not really. Their ceiling is Super Bowl champion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Not really. Their ceiling is Super Bowl champion. No that's a different house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Not really. Their ceiling is Super Bowl champion. I think that's the correct ceiling. They have been a preseason favorite to go deep in the playoffs for few years now, and nothing that's happened should change that. Josh, Diggs, Kincaid, and pretty much the whole offensive line is back. Defense has to replace a safety, a corner, and reshuffle the D line, with the best dlinemen, other than Jones, coming back. And Milano is coming back. There's no reason that we should expect the defense to be worse. Ceiling is high. Everyone has a lot of work to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) Only on TBD can the Bills lose Hyde, Poyer, White, Morse, Neal, Harty, Sherfield, trade Bates, lose Araiza to the Chiefs and sign Hack, Rapp, and Trubisky and be better than they was with no current replacements or money🤣🤣🤣. Btw other teams have draft picks too, and most of them have way more cap space including the Chiefs. I'm pretty sure everyone except Bills fans see this as quite the set back, but carry on daydreaming Edited March 8 by Gunsgoodtime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 45 minutes ago, Peter said: McD told everyone we are winning the Super Bowl. Didn't he say it is not a question of if but when? "When" includes forever. This is a fairly clever expectation setting question. Literally impossible to fall short of, unless the NFL or Bills go out of business before forever. 17 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: pretty much the whole offensive line is back Center and guard positions are both changing. I though McGovern was a good guard. But he is not a known factor at Center. By the way I agree with cutting Morse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Bills minimum should be to make the playoffs. The goal should be to win the division. Anything else is gravy. It’s a retool type of year, when some young guys might be learning on the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) AFC East Division Champions and a Division Round exit. Edited March 8 by uticaclub 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I'm sorry to be a broken record. We have a top 3 QB. If you expect anything less than the SuperBowl I really don't understand you. Please anyone that votes anything but SuperBowl win explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 It's about injuries, how many, to who and timing of them during the season. If the Bills could get plucky one season with limited injuries to starting players, the talent they've had or may have this year. They're in business. Superbowl appearance a minimum. 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I'm sorry to be a broken record. We have a top 3 QB. If you expect anything less than the SuperBowl I really don't understand you. Please anyone that votes anything but SuperBowl win explain? I want to make a millions this year, but I expect to make much less. While I don't disagree with any of the moves they have made this offseason, I have no reason to billieve McDermott will coach a team to a Super Bowl. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, Chaos said: My personal opinion is that all sports franchise gms and coaches spend a considerable amount of effort to manage expectations. Thier key to personal success is not winning championships, the key to success is beating expectations. The lower one can set the expecations, the more likely one is to succeed. Another personal opinion is that the Bills organization is masterful at managing expectations. One pillar of that strategy is "we were so awful in the past, that any appearance of competence oughta be satisfactory to the fans in the cheap seat". Fans love activity in the offseason. We have been treated to a lot of activity this week. The consensus opinion about every decision seems to be "this is great" and "this had to be done". So I polling at this point, what does it all mean for 2024? I think we are going to be better than a wild card loser but not likely a Super Bowl team injury or dumb luck of how a ball bounces could effect that but generally top 8 but not top 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11-6 and win division by tiebreaker...lol play in the AFC Championship game after that, my crystal ball gets cloudy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 9 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I'm sorry to be a broken record. We have a top 3 QB. If you expect anything less than the SuperBowl I really don't understand you. Please anyone that votes anything but SuperBowl win explain? Based on their history winning the superbowl is a goal not an expectation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 14 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I'm sorry to be a broken record. We have a top 3 QB. If you expect anything less than the SuperBowl I really don't understand you. Please anyone that votes anything but SuperBowl win explain? I think you are confusing with "what i will consider successful" with "what I actually expect" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 14 minutes ago, uticaclub said: I want to make a millions this year, but I expect to make much less. While I don't disagree with any of the moves they have made this offseason, I have no reason to billieve McDermott will coach a team to a Super Bowl. Do you have the talent to make millions? Allen has the talent to win the SuperBowl! Agree he will have to overcome McDermott though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 50 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I think that's the correct ceiling. They have been a preseason favorite to go deep in the playoffs for few years now, and nothing that's happened should change that. Either the team has vastly underperformed or the media don’t know what they’re talking about. I’m leaning towards the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, Chaos said: My personal opinion is that all sports franchise gms and coaches spend a considerable amount of effort to manage expectations. Thier key to personal success is not winning championships, the key to success is beating expectations. The lower one can set the expecations, the more likely one is to succeed. Another personal opinion is that the Bills organization is masterful at managing expectations. One pillar of that strategy is "we were so awful in the past, that any appearance of competence oughta be satisfactory to the fans in the cheap seat". Fans love activity in the offseason. We have been treated to a lot of activity this week. The consensus opinion about every decision seems to be "this is great" and "this had to be done". So I polling at this point, what does it all mean for 2024? Superbowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 5 minutes ago, 90sBills said: Based on their history winning the superbowl is a goal not an expectation. So per this thinking then losing in the playoffs is somehow acceptable? When does it become unacceptable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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