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While the national media worships at the feet of Patrick Mahomes, a closer examination and a more nuanced analysis reveals Allen to be the better QB. Allen “can’t beat” Mahomes (in the playoffs) simply because it’s a complete coaching mismatch on both sides of the ball. Just watch the playoff loss to KC. Allen is forced to throw darts into the smallest of targets while Mahomes is consistently throwing to wide open targets, ie the TD pass to Kelce, among others. This is not surprising, Reid is a hall of fame offensive genius while Brady is still getting his feet wet. But Allen was the better QB that day, and almost every time he has played KC

 

Whats disappointing is the coaching mis match on the defensive side of the ball. Anybody think Spagnola would have lost that lead with 13 seconds to go. He is constantly making in game adjustments while McD is like a deer in the headlights. Chris Jones ruined what would have been a go ahead TD via his pressure/hit on Allen. Jones had been moved from his DT position to DE on that play. Nice adjustments. In the meantime KC all pro guard Tuney just ate up Ed Oliver all day, but no movement or adjustment. Oliver had zero impact all day. And BTW, you don’t have to be a Reid level offensive genius to recognize & exploit the fact that AJ Klein CANNOT cover Kielce.

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I'd argue this year with throwing into tight windows was a top 3 defense at the top of its game vs AJ Klein, a severely hampered Douglass and a bunch of other injuries.

 

What AJ Klein level mismatch did the Chiefs have on their defense that the Bills could have exploited to get those wide open windows?

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3 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:

I'd argue this year with throwing into tight windows was a top 3 defense at the top of its game vs AJ Klein, a severely hampered Douglass and a bunch of other injuries.

 

What AJ Klein level mismatch did the Chiefs have on their defense that the Bills could have exploited to get those wide open windows?

I agree with you x100. No Milano, White, Bernard, Douglas…But…McDermott hate and all that. Get with the program. 

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McDermott will be back in 2024 like it or not. However, I do think Terry will make a coaching change and maybe even clean house with the Buffalo team that plays on the ice. As far as Beane and McDermott go they are safe.

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48 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:

I'd argue this year with throwing into tight windows was a top 3 defense at the top of its game vs AJ Klein, a severely hampered Douglass and a bunch of other injuries.

 

What AJ Klein level mismatch did the Chiefs have on their defense that the Bills could have exploited to get those wide open windows?

Ok. I get that. there was a mismatch.

 

But, why did it take until nearly the end of the game for McChump to adapt? It was clear as day that something different should be done and I was harping on it during the game. Get Neal out there in a double Nickel package to cover Kelce. Neal has done it before, and Johnson or Neal would b capable. Especially as we were able to successfully put Poyer in the box.

 

Let them run on us. That wasn't going to get it done. They weren't winning that game without the pass. Every game we beat them we shut down Kelce.

 

There is no excuse why McDermott did not make this change earlier in the game. NONE.

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45 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

I agree with you x100. No Milano, White, Bernard, Douglas…But…McDermott hate and all that. Get with the program. 

The flats were wide open most of the game. Once the LB went out, Gay was it? They Chiefs left the short flats for Knox or Shakir to exploit. We kept running deep and outside the hashes. That's where KC feasts.

 

The final play where Diggs was open is a good example of exploiting that short route seam left wideopen and that was up the middle.

 

The Chiefs defense successfully kept Allens eyes off the flat and looking outside or deep. This was a problem Josh had during the game. He could not find the middle. The coordination to put him in position to hit these is a problem, however the Chiefs did not let him see those lanes by clogging up the middle to eliminate vision and escape routes to run for yardage.

 

Overall, I was not happy with our offensive playcalling, either.

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1 hour ago, WIDE LEFT said:

While the national media worships at the feet of Patrick Mahomes, a closer examination and a more nuanced analysis reveals Allen to be the better QB. Allen “can’t beat” Mahomes (in the playoffs) simply because it’s a complete coaching mismatch on both sides of the ball. Just watch the playoff loss to KC. Allen is forced to throw darts into the smallest of targets while Mahomes is consistently throwing to wide open targets, ie the TD pass to Kelce, among others. This is not surprising, Reid is a hall of fame offensive genius while Brady is still getting his feet wet. But Allen was the better QB that day, and almost every time he has played KC

 

Whats disappointing is the coaching mis match on the defensive side of the ball. Anybody think Spagnola would have lost that lead with 13 seconds to go. He is constantly making in game adjustments while McD is like a deer in the headlights. Chris Jones ruined what would have been a go ahead TD via his pressure/hit on Allen. Jones had been moved from his DT position to DE on that play. Nice adjustments. In the meantime KC all pro guard Tuney just ate up Ed Oliver all day, but no movement or adjustment. Oliver had zero impact all day. And BTW, you don’t have to be a Reid level offensive genius to recognize & exploit the fact that AJ Klein CANNOT cover Kielce.

 

1) Allen threw 28 of his 39 passes within five yards of the line of scrimmage and completed zero passes of more than 15 yards (only attempted four of them) working against a KC secondary without two of their top 3 safeties (a 4th round rookie played every snap but one) and a LB corps without their best coverage linebacker (Willie Gay). Buffalo's offense went 4.7 yards per play, the lowest output other than the season opener vs the Jets (4.6 ypp), and Allen - not McDermott - was on the field late with a chance to win the game and couldn't do it. Allen very nearly fumbled the game away on a 3rd-and-10 on the final drive. 

 

2) Kelce caught only two passes the entire game vs Klein, one in the first quarter and another early in the second quarter. The first TD pass he caught was the result of busted coverage by Johnson, Hyde and Poyer (Klein was on the other side of the field). Kelce caught just five passes all game, tied for his all-time playoff low in the Mahomes era, and caught just one pass (vs Poyer) in the final 26 minutes of the game. 

 

3) Chris Jones moves to the outside regularly on passing downs. The Bills weren't caught off guard here and it certainly wasn't a coaching error. Jones just made a great play, as he has done late in games throughout his career (including the AFC title game vs Bengals last year; and the Super Bowl this year.) 

 

4) Thuney exited in the third quarter and a former 7th-round draft pick took over at LG. At what point do you hold the players accountable? Or at what point do you give credit to the elusive Mahomes, who is elite at avoiding sacks. (Josh Allen is his equal in this regard, and took zero sacks in this game also.) 

 

5) Buffalo's offense didn't score in the final 18 minutes, 23 seconds, after taking a 24-20 lead late in the third quarter. They ran 23 plays for 59 yards on their final three drives, a whopping 2.56 yards per play. Two of the three drives were 3-and-outs. The third drive required converting a 4th-and-3 and recovering an Allen fumble just to get them within range of a missed Bass field goal. 

 

6) Buffalo's defense struggled all day but did make two critical stops late in the game - forcing the Hardman fumble after KC took over a short field, and forcing a punt on the next drive after overcoming a drive-extending penalty - and the offense couldn't put points up on the board as they attempted to dink-and-dunk their way down the field. 

 

7) Spags is a great defensive coordinator, but the idea that he pitches playoff shutouts on the regular is a myth. In 12 playoff games prior to this year, KC's defense allowed 31, 24, 24, 31, 36, 27, 35 in seven of their games. This year's playoff performance was the outlier. KC has had playoff success in the Mahomes era because the Chiefs routinely score 30+ points and average 29.5 points as an offense. This was the first year the defense outplayed the offense in Mahomes' six years as starter. 

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1 hour ago, WIDE LEFT said:

While the national media worships at the feet of Patrick Mahomes, a closer examination and a more nuanced analysis reveals Allen to be the better QB. Allen “can’t beat” Mahomes (in the playoffs) simply because it’s a complete coaching mismatch on both sides of the ball. Just watch the playoff loss to KC. Allen is forced to throw darts into the smallest of targets while Mahomes is consistently throwing to wide open targets, ie the TD pass to Kelce, among others. This is not surprising, Reid is a hall of fame offensive genius while Brady is still getting his feet wet. But Allen was the better QB that day, and almost every time he has played KC

 

Whats disappointing is the coaching mis match on the defensive side of the ball. Anybody think Spagnola would have lost that lead with 13 seconds to go. He is constantly making in game adjustments while McD is like a deer in the headlights. Chris Jones ruined what would have been a go ahead TD via his pressure/hit on Allen. Jones had been moved from his DT position to DE on that play. Nice adjustments. In the meantime KC all pro guard Tuney just ate up Ed Oliver all day, but no movement or adjustment. Oliver had zero impact all day. And BTW, you don’t have to be a Reid level offensive genius to recognize & exploit the fact that AJ Klein CANNOT cover Kielce.

 

You know that was 2 years ago and that defensive coach Frazier that was calling the plays is gone ! You think maybe that could have been a huge reason why ? I'm thinking so !! McD saw what & why the Bills come up short on the D & made a move that's what good coaches do .

 

I wish y'all would let this "IT'S ALL MCD'S FAULT" thing go for crying out loud !! The only freakin thing in your post that you got right is that McD and EVERY OTHER COACH in the NFL apparently can't beat Andy Reid & Mahomes exactly like they couldn't beat BB & Brady !!

 

End of story !! Same as it was in the NBA when Jordan was on the Bulls it's a perfect match of coaching & a once in a lifetime talent that seems to pull what ever he needs out of his bag of tricks .

 

It wouldn't surprise me if with all of the antics that Mahomes does like his shuffle passes & behind the back and no look type plays if he was to pull a Jordan and close his eyes on a play because that is the kind of player he is the Jordan of the NFL !! 

 

It in no way could be that the players drop passes that hit them right in their hands, or fumble the ball, or miss kicks, or or miss tackles or injuries to pro bowl type players, or just flat out get beat, NAH it's none of that it's just that DAM McD !!

 

AJ Klien did all he could seeing that All most their entire LBing corp was injured REALLY ??? 🙄 When your down to the 4th & 5th players that are the only ones left it's like bringing a knife to a gun fight .

 

With this analogy then every HC that lost to Mahomes in th last 5 years needs to be fired right ??

 

 

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35 minutes ago, beebe said:

 

1) Allen threw 28 of his 39 passes within five yards of the line of scrimmage and completed zero passes of more than 15 yards (only attempted four of them) working against a KC secondary without two of their top 3 safeties (a 4th round rookie played every snap but one) and a LB corps without their best coverage linebacker (Willie Gay). Buffalo's offense went 4.7 yards per play, the lowest output other than the season opener vs the Jets (4.6 ypp), and Allen - not McDermott - was on the field late with a chance to win the game and couldn't do it. Allen very nearly fumbled the game away on a 3rd-and-10 on the final drive. 

 

2) Kelce caught only two passes the entire game vs Klein, one in the first quarter and another early in the second quarter. The first TD pass he caught was the result of busted coverage by Johnson, Hyde and Poyer (Klein was on the other side of the field). Kelce caught just five passes all game, tied for his all-time playoff low in the Mahomes era, and caught just one pass (vs Poyer) in the final 26 minutes of the game. 

 

3) Chris Jones moves to the outside regularly on passing downs. The Bills weren't caught off guard here and it certainly wasn't a coaching error. Jones just made a great play, as he has done late in games throughout his career (including the AFC title game vs Bengals last year; and the Super Bowl this year.) 

 

4) Thuney exited in the third quarter and a former 7th-round draft pick took over at LG. At what point do you hold the players accountable? Or at what point do you give credit to the elusive Mahomes, who is elite at avoiding sacks. (Josh Allen is his equal in this regard, and took zero sacks in this game also.) 

 

5) Buffalo's offense didn't score in the final 18 minutes, 23 seconds, after taking a 24-20 lead late in the third quarter. They ran 23 plays for 59 yards on their final three drives, a whopping 2.56 yards per play. Two of the three drives were 3-and-outs. The third drive required converting a 4th-and-3 and recovering an Allen fumble just to get them within range of a missed Bass field goal. 

 

6) Buffalo's defense struggled all day but did make two critical stops late in the game - forcing the Hardman fumble after KC took over a short field, and forcing a punt on the next drive after overcoming a drive-extending penalty - and the offense couldn't put points up on the board as they attempted to dink-and-dunk their way down the field. 

 

7) Spags is a great defensive coordinator, but the idea that he pitches playoff shutouts on the regular is a myth. In 12 playoff games prior to this year, KC's defense allowed 31, 24, 24, 31, 36, 27, 35 in seven of their games. This year's playoff performance was the outlier. KC has had playoff success in the Mahomes era because the Chiefs routinely score 30+ points and average 29.5 points as an offense. This was the first year the defense outplayed the offense in Mahomes' six years as starter. 

And you just proved the OP's point.  Congratulations! :thumbsup:

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2 hours ago, WIDE LEFT said:

While the national media worships at the feet of Patrick Mahomes, a closer examination and a more nuanced analysis reveals Allen to be the better QB. Allen “can’t beat” Mahomes (in the playoffs) simply because it’s a complete coaching mismatch on both sides of the ball. Just watch the playoff loss to KC. Allen is forced to throw darts into the smallest of targets while Mahomes is consistently throwing to wide open targets, ie the TD pass to Kelce, among others. This is not surprising, Reid is a hall of fame offensive genius while Brady is still getting his feet wet. But Allen was the better QB that day, and almost every time he has played KC

 

Whats disappointing is the coaching mis match on the defensive side of the ball. Anybody think Spagnola would have lost that lead with 13 seconds to go. He is constantly making in game adjustments while McD is like a deer in the headlights. Chris Jones ruined what would have been a go ahead TD via his pressure/hit on Allen. Jones had been moved from his DT position to DE on that play. Nice adjustments. In the meantime KC all pro guard Tuney just ate up Ed Oliver all day, but no movement or adjustment. Oliver had zero impact all day. And BTW, you don’t have to be a Reid level offensive genius to recognize & exploit the fact that AJ Klein CANNOT cover Kielce.

Seron Neal has been on this team for 6yrs why can't he start at LB instead of AJ DeKlein ? Why couldn't Dodson wear the green dot helmet he did it be before in games? I agree we didn't adjust and on top of that we will could've won the game but didn't finish either

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34 minutes ago, beebe said:

 

1) Allen threw 28 of his 39 passes within five yards of the line of scrimmage and completed zero passes of more than 15 yards (only attempted four of them) working against a KC secondary without two of their top 3 safeties (a 4th round rookie played every snap but one) and a LB corps without their best coverage linebacker (Willie Gay). Buffalo's offense went 4.7 yards per play, the lowest output other than the season opener vs the Jets (4.6 ypp), and Allen - not McDermott - was on the field late with a chance to win the game and couldn't do it. Allen very nearly fumbled the game away on a 3rd-and-10 on the final drive. 

 

2) Kelce caught only two passes the entire game vs Klein, one in the first quarter and another early in the second quarter. The first TD pass he caught was the result of busted coverage by Johnson, Hyde and Poyer (Klein was on the other side of the field). Kelce caught just five passes all game, tied for his all-time playoff low in the Mahomes era, and caught just one pass (vs Poyer) in the final 26 minutes of the game. 

 

3) Chris Jones moves to the outside regularly on passing downs. The Bills weren't caught off guard here and it certainly wasn't a coaching error. Jones just made a great play, as he has done late in games throughout his career (including the AFC title game vs Bengals last year; and the Super Bowl this year.) 

 

4) Thuney exited in the third quarter and a former 7th-round draft pick took over at LG. At what point do you hold the players accountable? Or at what point do you give credit to the elusive Mahomes, who is elite at avoiding sacks. (Josh Allen is his equal in this regard, and took zero sacks in this game also.) 

 

5) Buffalo's offense didn't score in the final 18 minutes, 23 seconds, after taking a 24-20 lead late in the third quarter. They ran 23 plays for 59 yards on their final three drives, a whopping 2.56 yards per play. Two of the three drives were 3-and-outs. The third drive required converting a 4th-and-3 and recovering an Allen fumble just to get them within range of a missed Bass field goal. 

 

6) Buffalo's defense struggled all day but did make two critical stops late in the game - forcing the Hardman fumble after KC took over a short field, and forcing a punt on the next drive after overcoming a drive-extending penalty - and the offense couldn't put points up on the board as they attempted to dink-and-dunk their way down the field. 

 

7) Spags is a great defensive coordinator, but the idea that he pitches playoff shutouts on the regular is a myth. In 12 playoff games prior to this year, KC's defense allowed 31, 24, 24, 31, 36, 27, 35 in seven of their games. This year's playoff performance was the outlier. KC has had playoff success in the Mahomes era because the Chiefs routinely score 30+ points and average 29.5 points as an offense. This was the first year the defense outplayed the offense in Mahomes' six years as starter. 

You failed to mention that when the KC defense came out of its shell Allen threw 3 bombs that were dropped. You dink and dunk until the D abandons its shell then you hit them deep. Of course, you actually have to catch the ball. To throw out stats like Allen only averaging small amount of yards per completion, without even a mention of the dropped long passes is classic.

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Reid is the uncrowned GOAT.

 

Nuggies and BBQ are the only things that could stop him from holding every single HC wins/titles record by the time he retires. 

 

He's currently 5 playoff wins away from tying Belichick for most playoff wins all-time as a HC. That's 2 playoff runs. 

 

That said, McDermott has definitely shown the desire and ability to adapt and become WAY less conservative. The guy called a fake punt inside his own 30 yard line in a divisional playoff game. 

 

NOW we need McDermott to get behind loading up the offense with weapons. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, WIDE LEFT said:

While the national media worships at the feet of Patrick Mahomes, a closer examination and a more nuanced analysis reveals Allen to be the better QB. Allen “can’t beat” Mahomes (in the playoffs) simply because it’s a complete coaching mismatch on both sides of the ball. Just watch the playoff loss to KC. Allen is forced to throw darts into the smallest of targets while Mahomes is consistently throwing to wide open targets, ie the TD pass to Kelce, among others. This is not surprising, Reid is a hall of fame offensive genius while Brady is still getting his feet wet. But Allen was the better QB that day, and almost every time he has played KC

 

Whats disappointing is the coaching mis match on the defensive side of the ball. Anybody think Spagnola would have lost that lead with 13 seconds to go. He is constantly making in game adjustments while McD is like a deer in the headlights. Chris Jones ruined what would have been a go ahead TD via his pressure/hit on Allen. Jones had been moved from his DT position to DE on that play. Nice adjustments. In the meantime KC all pro guard Tuney just ate up Ed Oliver all day, but no movement or adjustment. Oliver had zero impact all day. And BTW, you don’t have to be a Reid level offensive genius to recognize & exploit the fact that AJ Klein CANNOT cover Kielce.

 

With the amount of injuries our defense suffered, this is a completely unfair comment. Without any play by Willie Gay, Nick Bolton, Trent McDuffie and L'Jarius Sneed DO THE CHIEFS WIN THE SUPER BOWL??? NOPE.

 

The Chiefs have to be the luckiest team we've ever seen over the last 4 years when it comes to injuries.

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35 minutes ago, WIDE LEFT said:

You failed to mention that when the KC defense came out of its shell Allen threw 3 bombs that were dropped. You dink and dunk until the D abandons its shell then you hit them deep. Of course, you actually have to catch the ball. To throw out stats like Allen only averaging small amount of yards per completion, without even a mention of the dropped long passes is classic.

 

Josh had TWO completions beyond six yards the entire game. One of them was a spectacular catch by Shakir for a touchdown. There were for sure a few catches that should have been made - that need to be made - downfield. But the Chiefs' banged-up defense, playing without four starters and two backup safeties, turned an elite quarterback into Russell Wilson. 

 

 

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I wish it was just one thing that needed to be fixed.  McDermott is far from perfect.  But one game It could be coaching, or play calling, execution, bad decisions, a dropped pass, missed FG, a turnover at the worst time, a gust of wind at the wrong time.  For whatever reason, there's still a collective mindset in place that somehow, some way this team will find a way to blow the game.  And in the big spotlight they fail to disappoint.   

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1 hour ago, boyst said:

Ok. I get that. there was a mismatch.

 

But, why did it take until nearly the end of the game for McChump to adapt? It was clear as day that something different should be done and I was harping on it during the game. Get Neal out there in a double Nickel package to cover Kelce. Neal has done it before, and Johnson or Neal would b capable. Especially as we were able to successfully put Poyer in the box.

 

Let them run on us. That wasn't going to get it done. They weren't winning that game without the pass. Every game we beat them we shut down Kelce.

 

There is no excuse why McDermott did not make this change earlier in the game. NONE.

There’s not reason why he ever thought Klein being out there was a good move anyway. He was an “oh crap” signing as it is. Break glass in case of even bigger emergency. Yet there he was, getting significant playing time in the biggest game of the year. Against the toughest opponent. Against their best pass catcher. You want him in the game because you have no one else, fine. Then put someone on him that actually had a chance as covering him. Hell, I would have ran Williams out there against him, he likely makes a bunch of mistakes, but at least he’s physical enough to keep up with Kelce. Live and die with that decision. Or any other one that included the guy covering their best receiver, the best TE in the league, was a guy that was on his cough a few weeks prior, planning a family vacation. 

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We were one throw away from beating the Chiefs with our defense completely decimated by injuries.  Amazing how this just gets glossed over constantly.  We had AJ freaking Klien trying to cover Kelce.  AJ Klien.  And still almost won.  The chiefs, on the other hand, were basically completely healthy on D to start the game and then lost 1 LB during the game.

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27 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Reid is the uncrowned GOAT.

 

Nuggies and BBQ are the only things that could stop him from holding every single HC wins/titles record by the time he retires. 

 

He's currently 5 playoff wins away from tying Belichick for most playoff wins all-time as a HC. That's 2 playoff runs. 

 

That said, McDermott has definitely shown the desire and ability to adapt and become WAY less conservative. The guy called a fake punt inside his own 30 yard line in a divisional playoff game. 

 

NOW we need McDermott to get behind loading up the offense with weapons. 

 

 

 

 

 

A fake punt within his own 30 yard line, not with JA, not with Cook, not even Diggs.......with Hamlin.

 

And.....nothing more needs to be said here.

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Just now, Sweats said:

 

 

 

A fake punt within his own 30 yard line, not with JA, not with Cook, not even Diggs.......with Hamlin.

 

And.....nothing more needs to be said here.

 

yeah, not a great decision there for sure

 

That's the weird thing about McDermott that I think he needs to work on. His decisions to take a risk sometimes come out of nowhere and seem so counter to what he is all about. Like he's forcing it a little bit. 

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1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

yeah, not a great decision there for sure

 

That's the weird thing about McDermott that I think he needs to work on. His decisions to take a risk sometimes come out of nowhere and seem so counter to what he is all about. Like he's forcing it a little bit. 

 

 

 

I agree earlier when you said that McD is at least trying to be less conservative with the playcalling and play scheming, but i think some of his calls are without a doubt, questionable.

 

I mean, i have no problem with being aggressive. In fact, i would rather lose a game from being too aggressive than too passive or having idiotic playcalling TBH. A fake punt within your own 30 yard line and you don't put it in your playmakers hands but give it to a guy who played in 2 snaps all season?......like come on, man. McD, what the hell were you thinking?!?

 

I am trying to give McD the benefit of the doubt these days, but he's making it real hard.

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3 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

I agree earlier when you said that McD is at least trying to be less conservative with the playcalling and play scheming, but i think some of his calls are without a doubt, questionable.

 

I mean, i have no problem with being aggressive. In fact, i would rather lose a game from being too aggressive than too passive or having idiotic playcalling TBH. A fake punt within your own 30 yard line and you don't put it in your playmakers hands but give it to a guy who played in 2 snaps all season?......like come on, man. McD, what the hell were you thinking?!?

 

I am trying to give McD the benefit of the doubt these days, but he's making it real hard.

 

I think it's so against his natural instincts that he's doing what he thinks he should do to be more aggressive.

 

That fake punt was a disaster, but maybe it does show that he is at least trying to evolve. I have high hopes that he is the type of coach who will allow himself to grow and get better. 

 

This offseason and next season's offense will tell the tale. He did say in his end of the season presser that he believes that you win by passing the ball. We'll see if he really meant it soon by what the team does in free agency and the draft!

 

He has to commit to doing what needs to be done to avoid losing over and over in the playoffs. 

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3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

I agree with you x100. No Milano, White, Bernard, Douglas…But…McDermott hate and all that. Get with the program. 

Bernard playing would've won that game and I mean they damn near did win regardless,  2 missed fgs, a dropped td by Diggs, Huge drop by Sherfield,  Jones getting to Allen at the right specific time.

This team is well run n coached as any . Just gotta stay healthy 

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13 minutes ago, Billl said:

I've never seen a fan base more obsessed with coaching.  

Although I don't put all of the blame on coaching you have a fanbase that's currently questioning why we can't get past the Divisional Round with Josh Allen at Quarterback so I get why it's such a major talking point around here 

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9 minutes ago, Billl said:

I've never seen a fan base more obsessed with coaching.  

It makes tremendous sense when you think about it.

 

This fan base believes, by and large, believes that Josh Allen is at least Patrick Mahomes’ equal, maybe even better. 
 

Working off that assumption, they had to find other reasons why we haven’t had the same success as the Chiefs. First it was the weapons. “Give Josh Hill and Kelce!” “Sammy Watkins is their WR4!”

 

Then Kelce got old and Hill got shipped out and that narrative had to die because they won two more.

 

Now the only thing they have left is Reid. A guy who was a notorious choke artist for the first 20 or so years coaching. Never won the big one with talent at QB. Was clowned for a decade about sucking at clock management. Was a perennial first round exit in KC with a very talented roster. 
 

But of course, now he’s an elite coach. The upper echelon crust. And it can’t be because he has the current greatest QB in football. So really, the difference has to be Reid vastly outperforming McD. 
 

They ignore things they see with their own eyes (Harbaugh and Tomlin unable to win playoff games without elite QB play, BB’s Pats being a shell of themselves post Tom Brady, Arians winning an SB with the GOAT after failing to amount to much with Carson Palmer in Arizona.) It MUST be coaching. 

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Even if Reid and crew are better, what do you want the Bills to do? I'd say McD is Top 10 at the very least, close to the Top 5. So yeah, a few coaches are better than him, I don't doubt that. But if you fire him, then what?

 

49ers fans are saying the same for Shanahan what Bills fans are saying for McD. Yet they lost in the Superbowl in overtime! Only 1 team out of 32 is happy come the end of the season. Bills lost by a tiny margin to the SB champs this time, and well, while that 13 sec fiasco is on the D coaches, they had lost in OT. As if that was a sign they suck or something. Chiefs find a way to win, Bills have to do the same. But they sure can do it.

 

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2 hours ago, beebe said:

 

Josh had TWO completions beyond six yards the entire game. One of them was a spectacular catch by Shakir for a touchdown. There were for sure a few catches that should have been made - that need to be made - downfield. But the Chiefs' banged-up defense, playing without four starters and two backup safeties, turned an elite quarterback into Russell Wilson. 

 

 

 

I mean - you understand that the focus on short passes was by design....right?

 

Reid coaches these games better.  McDermott is a solid coach - but Reid is a great coach.

 

1 hour ago, Mark80 said:

We were one throw away from beating the Chiefs with our defense completely decimated by injuries.  Amazing how this just gets glossed over constantly.  We had AJ freaking Klien trying to cover Kelce.  AJ Klien.  And still almost won.  The chiefs, on the other hand, we basically completely healthy on D to start the game and then lost 1 LB during the game.

 

100%.  I feel like I'm losing my mind reading some of these posts.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, Billl said:

I've never seen a fan base more obsessed with coaching.  

 

I mean, that's what happens with an underachieving team.  

 

It must be challenging as a KC fan to see fans of another team post about anything but Mahomes' greatness.

 

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