Donuts and Doritos Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) Topic for analysis of 2024 draft class at WR & discuss who would be available & a fit for the Bills. Edited January 27 by Donuts and Doritos 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Do NOT trade up. Whoever we take, I can just about guarantee a guy will go later who will be just as good or better. Happens every draft. 12 1 7 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) I personally like Odunze a lot. Bit of a UW fan though, so I might be a bit biased. Great hands and size. Good dude too. He’ll be out of reach though unless we move up. Haven’t had a chance to study everyone yet. Edited January 27 by Maynard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 At 28 the Bills are likely to have the opportunity to draft one of the premier boundary X receiver prospects with the desired traits. In my view more than one will be available there and the question will be which one to take assuming that's the direction the braintrust wants to go in. Thomas, Adonai Mitchell, Franklin, Leggett amongst the blue chip prospects could very well all be there. Some of those guys have already been mocked to the Bills. MHJ, Nabers, Odunze will almost certainly be off the board but loads of talent will remain. 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 38 minutes ago, Brand J said: Do NOT trade up. Whoever we take, I can just about guarantee a guy will go later who will be just as good or better. Happens every draft. I can almost guarantee that Beane will trade up...probably only a few picks perhaps to 25 or 26, but he simply can't resist. And we're picking in a place where the WRs are really going to be coming off the board fast. KC will definitely be looking to move up... 7 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 26 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: At 28 the Bills are likely to have the opportunity to draft one of the premier boundary X receiver prospects with the desired traits. In my view more than one will be available there and the question will be which one to take assuming that's the direction the braintrust wants to go in. Thomas, Adonai Mitchell, Franklin, Leggett amongst the blue chip prospects could very well all be there. Some of those guys have already been mocked to the Bills. MHJ, Nabers, Odunze will almost certainly be off the board but loads of talent will remain. Pretty much this. I think 1-3 of those guys will be gone by the time we pick. Most likely Thomas and Franklin are gone imo. Leggettes combine/pro day could push him up too. Is it worth trading up for one of them? Or sit and take Mitchell? Is he ok trading up like we did last season for one of them. Those 3 are legit speedsters, while Mitchell is not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Maynard said: I personally like Odunze a lot. Bit of a UW fan though, so I might be a bit biased. Great hands and size. Good dude too. He’ll be out of reach though unless we move up. Haven’t had a chance to study everyone yet. I love him too… likely to go in the Top 12 … we will be looking up waving him goodbye ,,, 9 minutes ago, mannc said: I can almost guarantee that Beane will trade up...probably only a few picks perhaps to 25 or 26, but he simply can't resist. And we're picking in a place where the WRs are really going to be coming off the board fast. KC will definitely be looking to move up... Probably … Beane is already looking at their pick at the end of the third to move up 3 or 4 spots …there will be 3 or 4 WR left but there will be one he loves … If he gets it right then all good… but this is one year they could use that third round pick to find another contributor.. Edited January 27 by Aussie Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 23 minutes ago, mannc said: I can almost guarantee that Beane will trade up...probably only a few picks perhaps to 25 or 26, but he simply can't resist. And we're picking in a place where the WRs are really going to be coming off the board fast. KC will definitely be looking to move up... Not to correct, but clarify, we pick at 28. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) Trade down from 28 to even later in the 1st or early 2nd to garner an extra 3rd rd pick (plus?). Once that's done, use our 1st pick on the BPA WR and then use one of the 2 3rds on a WR as well. If you can come away with two of Mitchell, Worthy, McConkey and/or Burton, our WR group will substantially improve both short and long-term. I also really like Brendan Rice. One sleeper pick for day 3 of the draft is Rosemy-Jacksaint, he has size, good speed, and an incredible catch radius. He will be undervalued in the draft because he wasn't the primary target ever while as UGA. He played behind, Bowers, McConkey, and even Burton and Mitchell before they transferred out to be the No. 1 guys at Bama and Texas respectively. Edited January 27 by GASabresIUFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 39 minutes ago, mannc said: I can almost guarantee that Beane will trade up...probably only a few picks perhaps to 25 or 26, but he simply can't resist. And we're picking in a place where the WRs are really going to be coming off the board fast. KC will definitely be looking to move up... Man that's tough, you don't want to get jumped and miss your guy, but at the same time if there are a good group of available they should definitely stay put and double dip with another pick. You're better off taking two shots I'd think in a stacked class than moving up a little maybe. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 11 minutes ago, NewEra said: Pretty much this. I think 1-3 of those guys will be gone by the time we pick. Most likely Thomas and Franklin are gone imo. Leggettes combine/pro day could push him up too. Is it worth trading up for one of them? Or sit and take Mitchell? Is he ok trading up like we did last season for one of them. Those 3 are legit speedsters, while Mitchell is not. I would be very happy with A. Mitchell. True he's not a 4:3s guy but given his size his projected 4:50 is entirely adequate especially considering his twitchiness and short area quickness. I might take him ahead of Franklin, another tremendous prospect. While it's true that Franklin can probably add to his 187 pound frame without losing anything in terms of his game speed I think Mitchell can pack on another 20lbs and still be the same guy and he's already bigger. Good chance Thomas is taken before 28. Leggett worries me a bit given his late blooming and more so even the fact that he did not perform well in his breakout season against the three teams representing the best competition he faced. A polarizing player is Keon Coleman. Some see him falling. Some see him as the fourth best receiver in the class. He could very well be another Alshon Jeffery with maybe even a higher ceiling. Hard to know when some say he's for sure running in the 4.6s and others insisting he's a solid 4.45. That's a big difference and has bearing on whether he's limited as a red zone target or capable of serving as a midfield/downfield threat. I guess we will find out in due course. Maybe 6 QBs will go in the first and a number of teams will be looking to protect the guy they already have from amongst a number of very promising O-line prospects. There are a couple of edge defenders going in the first and at least one tight end. And of course you know that three or four DBs will be taken. Add the three or four WRs you know are going before we pick and that leaves excellent X receiver prospects still on the board for us at 28. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 10 players are not making this roster so moving a pick or two to move up seems logical. This is an excellent class for Wrs There are a bunch of guys who should be there in the 20s that normally would have gone higher using the Greg Cosell meter of who the Bills need he seems to favor a speed, speed, and more speed and a vertical threat. Adoni Mitchell Xavier Legette Xavier Worthy Jaylen Polk Emeka Ebuka Adoni in Buffalo would destroy planets but these other guys all would definitely make Josh’s life easier later on guys like Roman Wilson can be had in the third round if you want to double dip at WR early and if we want a pure speed Xavier Worthy and his 4.29 forty wouldn’t hurt but he does have the dropseys once in awhile. Edited January 27 by 78thealltimegreat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 49 minutes ago, NewEra said: Pretty much this. I think 1-3 of those guys will be gone by the time we pick. Most likely Thomas and Franklin are gone imo. Leggettes combine/pro day could push him up too. Is it worth trading up for one of them? Or sit and take Mitchell? Is he ok trading up like we did last season for one of them. Those 3 are legit speedsters, while Mitchell is not. We should package Knox and Jackson along with our first to move into top 10 to nab a difference maker WR. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ga boy said: We should package Knox and Jackson along with our first to move into top 10 to nab a difference maker WR. If a team traded for Knox … we would have to be the ones throwing in a pick to get them to bite on that contract… Dane Jackson is not under contract in any event … but has very limited trade value … Moving beyond say Pick 23-24 is a bit of a pipe dream .. and even doing that would cost their third round pick … Edited January 27 by Aussie Joe 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 17 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: I would be very happy with A. Mitchell. True he's not a 4:3s guy but given his size his projected 4:50 is entirely adequate especially considering his twitchiness and short area quickness. I might take him ahead of Franklin, another tremendous prospect. While it's true that Franklin can probably add to his 187 pound frame without losing anything in terms of his game speed I think Mitchell can pack on another 20lbs and still be the same guy and he's already bigger. Good chance Thomas is taken before 28. Leggett worries me a bit given his late blooming and more so even the fact that he did not perform well in his breakout season against the three teams representing the best competition he faced. A polarizing player is Keon Coleman. Some see him falling. Some see him as the fourth best receiver in the class. He could very well be another Alshon Jeffery with maybe even a higher ceiling. Hard to know when some say he's for sure running in the 4.6s and others insisting he's a solid 4.45. That's a big difference and has bearing on whether he's limited as a red zone target or capable of serving as a midfield/downfield threat. I guess we will find out in due course. Maybe 6 QBs will go in the first and a number of teams will be looking to protect the guy they already have from amongst a number of very promising O-line prospects. There are a couple of edge defenders going in the first and at least one tight end. And of course you know that three or four DBs will be taken. Add the three or four WRs you know are going before we pick and that leaves excellent X receiver prospects still on the board for us at 28. Great post. Thanks. yeah Coleman is a wild card. I didn’t list him because I think he’ll be gone, but that’s just based on early predictions. Lots can and will change. I’d also rather have Leggette, Mitchell and Frankiln over Coleman. But if he were the pick- I would be happy that we landed a potential mismatch and possibly elite red zone target. I should’ve added Tez Walker to the initial group. I’d be happy with him in rd 1. His short and intermediate game is similar to Thomas jr (almost non existent), but he can be a force downfield. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 It would be kind of fun if we went all in and traded up for MHJ. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 To me Coleman needs to prove that he is more than a possession receiver/red zone threat. The combine should help in figuring that out. He absolutely torched no less a team than LSU (3 TDs & circa 128 yards) and has been able to show at times a surprising agility and athleticism for a guy his size. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r henderson Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 We will definitely have to trade with the class of wr. These guys will be coming off the board fast. Brian Thomas Junior from LSU will be perfect for the type of offense we’re trying to run. He’s a big fast guy who can stretch the field, but will need some coaching on the intermediate routes. Having the 28th pick, we will need to jump some teams to get him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Malik Nabers is going to be an absolute monster. I can dream. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 50 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Nothing about Beane and this staff gives me faith they can find an impact starter at #28 or anywhere else in the draft. Agree, other than, I don’t know, the 10 - 12 quality picks in the last three drafts. Ridiculous take. 5 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just now, st pete gogolak said: Agree, other than, I don’t know, the 10 - 12 quality picks in the last three drafts. Ridiculous take. How have the DL workout? Wr's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 27 minutes ago, Ga boy said: We should package Knox and Jackson along with our first to move into top 10 to nab a difference maker WR. That might get you pick 26. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, Juice_32 said: Malik Nabers is going to be an absolute monster. I can dream. I think he's the best WR in this strong class not named MHJ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 13 minutes ago, Success said: It would be kind of fun if we went all in and traded up for MHJ. It would cost the entire draft plus next year's first and second. Even that might not get it done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 33 minutes ago, Success said: It would be kind of fun if we went all in and traded up for MHJ. Not really…the Bills’ history with that sort of move is truly awful, and is still being felt today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Ga boy said: We should package Knox and Jackson along with our first to move into top 10 to nab a difference maker WR. Jackson is a FA. And we’d be lucky to get 2-3 spots Edited January 27 by NewEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Jackson is a FA We're going to trade all our FAs to move up. It's a new strategy. Edited January 27 by Dr. Who 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Brian Thomas Jr. His size and ball skills would be a dream come true pairing with Allen. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just now, Dr. Who said: We're going to trade all our FAs to move up. It's a new strategy. I'm told Von Miller is a future Hall of Famer...maybe we can get something for him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 For me the realistic targets for us are these guys in this order. I’d be very happy with these guys. 1. Brian Thomas Jr. - LSU 2. Troy Franklin - Oregon 3. Xavier Legette - South Carolina 4. Xavier Worthy - Texas 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 58 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: If a team traded for Knox … we would have to be the ones throwing in a pick to get them to bite on that contract… Dane Jackson is not under contract in any event … but has very limited trade value … Moving beyond say Pick 23-24 is a bit of a pipe dream .. and even doing that would cost their third round pick … There must be some combo to get into top 10 to get WR. A CB, Ty, and a 3rd. Any suggestions?? The only untouchables are Milano and JA17. I think Beane will make it happen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ga boy said: There must be some combo to get into top 10 to get WR. A CB, Ty, and a 3rd. Any suggestions?? The only untouchables are Milano and JA17. I think Beane will make it happen. Ty? As in Ty Johnson?? You think he’s getting you into the top 10? The only player the Bills have that would get them into the top 10 is Josh. Bills have no shot of getting into the top 10-it would cost too many picks just to get a WR Edited January 27 by Ya Digg? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 7 minutes ago, Ga boy said: There must be some combo to get into top 10 to get WR. A CB, Ty, and a 3rd. Any suggestions?? The only untouchables are Milano and JA17. I think Beane will make it happen. It would require giving up future first round picks which I don’t see them doing,,, Moving up from the bottom of the first into the Top 10 is an expensive undertaking … Beane has moved up a measly two spots the last two years and that cost them a fourth … like I said maybe their third moves them up four spots … keep the second for another swing somewhere else or even double up at WR … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 We have 3 6th round picks, and most likely those guys (and our 7th) do not make the team. Package them for say a 3rd. The QUALITY of picks has to be great this year, the draft picks need to contribute very quickly. We need a WR to compete for #2 immediately and there may be guys in this draft that can do that. Who though? This is where I need to see Beane stay at 28 or move a couple of spots up and knock it out of the park at WR as he did with Kincaid. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: We have 3 6th round picks, and most likely those guys (and our 7th) do not make the team. Package them for say a 3rd. The QUALITY of picks has to be great this year, the draft picks need to contribute very quickly. We need a WR to compete for #2 immediately and there may be guys in this draft that can do that. Who though? This is where I need to see Beane stay at 28 or move a couple of spots up and knock it out of the park at WR as he did with Kincaid. 3 6th round picks wont get a third ,,, Are you familiar with a draft chart ? Here is an example of one that values the Bills three 6th round picks for a top of the 5th… https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=Buf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just now, Aussie Joe said: 3 6th round picks wont get a third ,,, Are you familiar with a draft chart ? Here is an example of one that values the Bills three 6th round picks for a top of the 5th… https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=Buf Good point, I haven't looked at the chart, thanks. Heck, maybe a 4th at best. I dunno at this point, just spitballing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just now, SoonerBillsFan said: Good point, I haven't looked at the chart, thanks. Heck, maybe a 4th at best. I dunno at this point, just spitballing. I hear you bro… they need to get creative somehow … my thoughts are that other than moving up in the first a few spots for a WR if there is one they are in love with .. I’d be happy for them to take some shots with those Day 3 picks … they are losing 20 free agents this year so these guys can make the team this season …obviously they will be backups but cheap at least …. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) So far from all the videos I’ve seen I like Xavier Legette quite a bit and then Malachi Corley later on. I also like Jacob Cowing if we double dip. Edited January 27 by JDubya76 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 39 minutes ago, Ga boy said: There must be some combo to get into top 10 to get WR. A CB, Ty, and a 3rd. Any suggestions?? The only untouchables are Milano and JA17. I think Beane will make it happen. Not happening. Move on 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Drafted Justin shorter could have had puca nacua! man I like brown Thomas and jalynn polk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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