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DapperCam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 7 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Maybe I'm just used to the disappointment but this one didn't hurt as much. I'm maddest at Bass but can blame others including Josh on 2nd and 3rd down on the final drive. The defense was poor all game. I know McDermott not good enough but who is? This team went into the last 2 days of the season with missing the playoffs still a possibility. It didn't feel like a Super Bowl year. If anything they overachieved getting the #2 seed, a playoff win and taking the divisional to a photo finish. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, sven233 said: I mean Allen did everything he could. He was the best player on the field tonight and GOT 0 HELP..... He's Superman, but even Superman can't throw the ball and go catch it too. Dime after dime.....even 60+ yards down the field and yet, our WRs couldn't make 1 play for him (outside of Shakir.....that guy is our slot going forward). He can't coach the team. He can't kick the FGs. He can't play defense. As brilliant as he is, he just can't play QB and the other 2 phases of the game too. We need 2 more WRs....... As much as I love Diggs, he's made the transition to a #2 WR. We no longer have a #1. The draft should be nothing but weapons for Allen. He's carried this team on his back for years. He's hid so many flaws in personnel and coaching. There needs to be some serious changes. You are wasting, in my opinion, the best QB in the league at this point. I'm sorry, Josh. You deserve better. I am critical of Allen a lot, but we got more out of him tonight than anybody should expect of him. He deserves the ‘Cool Running’s’ slow clap for sure. He was phenomenal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I'm not down on Bass, as frustrating as that was. We would have needed to stop Mahomes from getting into field goal range with more than thirteen seconds, and then would have had to win in overtime. I was not interested in a game tying field goal when we were first down from the 27 with 2:42 to go, and realistically would have considered playing that as four down territory. Hard that after playing smart possession football for 57 minutes (and the deep balls coming close but not being useful in our overall efforts) we ran for nothing and took two deep shots to the end zone. I would have loved to see Josh run once in that sequence, and targeted receivers 5-10 yards downfield. Josh threw some great deep balls this game, but they didn't contribute to our offense. Josh was our best runner but with the game on the line we didn't call his number. We completed 26 short to medium passes, but when moving the sticks and the ticks mattered we attempted zero of them. Still proud of this team. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: It feels like we're wasting Josh Allen's career. Surround him with talent. Go the Miami route and get speed at WR to go with a good OL, Shakir, Cook and Kincaid You do realize we beat Miami, and the Chiefs just beat them badly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 You know the DL was awful when Von led the DL in tackles with two. How does that happen? For the amount of money invested in the DL that’s a horrible return and embarrassing! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheFunPolice Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, HalftimeAdjustment said: You do realize we beat Miami, and the Chiefs just beat them badly? No way! Nevermind then! No need to get playmakers for Josh Allen. Draft and sign more defensive players that will do jack squat in the playoffs once they face top QBs Maybe another $100 million contract on the DL and another 1st round pick will help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill51390 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Sucks we lost, especially to the Chiefs, but with this team decimated by injuries I’m not surprised. Healthy defense we win this game easily. But it’s definitely time to upgrade our receivers. That better be the #1 focus this off season. If Diggs hasn’t been playing hurt the second half of this seasons, he’s done. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I think we should have a statue outside the stadium of a fan just shaking their fists at the sky. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The one area of the defense that was healthy was the D-Line, and they absolutely sucked. Just maddening that Beane has put so many resources into that line and gets nothing out of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Niagara Dude Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 End of the day this team needs more speed and get back to getting big chuck plays, just not enough big chuck plays and that was the difference tonight. Chiefs had big chunk plays , all season long we leave it for final drives and anything can happen I think McDermott needs to hire DC coordinator, one that is aggressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 14 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Part of me thinks that’s why they ran him on that play instead of someone who actually had the talent to get the first down. Someone had their eyes on a Hallmark Moment. Hope I’m wrong. https://www.instagram.com/p/C2Y0CC4Ny1L/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Diggs fumbled on the first play of the game. Then dropped a perfect deep ball. Hopefully he'll be back and ready to roll next season. You just need more at WR. This team needs more weapons at the WR spot to open things up. We'll see how good Burrow looks without 2 #1 WRs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, chongli said: Kind of a weird tweet from CBS...could see KC tweeting that but kind of weird for CBS to dunk on the Bills 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preds Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Sadly I don’t see Josh ever hoisting the Lombardi as a Buffalo Bill (maybe later in his career after he moves on to a true championship caliber team to chase a championship like Peytonwas able to). I unfortunately have zero faith that we’ll ever see Allen winning or even making it to the Super Bowl under this coaching staff. wish we had a regime that provide him a quality OFFENSIVE minded Head Coach and a GM who would stop wasting draft picks and cap space on on the ***** defensive players the failed defensive HC demands, instead of providing Allen with elite WR’s to throw to. The Bills need to draft multiple WR’s for Allen early and often this year. The scrap heap he’s been given the past few years is just embarrassing. Diggs is either hurt or hit the walll. At this point he is barely in the conversation as a WR2. It’s difficult to continue witnessing the futility of this staff and the repetitive beat down of Allen each season as the team around him lets him down season after season after season due to poor coaching and roster construction. We are sadly watching a generational talent’s career waste away. He deserves an opportunity to play for a Super Bowl, something highly unlikely to happen with McD leading the organization. It’s so frustrating. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said: Kind of a weird tweet from CBS...could see KC tweeting that but kind of weird for CBS to dunk on the Bills We're a joke now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I see a lot of complaining about the TD shot on 3rd down. I for one, have no problem with it as it was called. The route was there and the play was there to be made but late pressure forced the ball to come up a little short. But, make no mistake about it, that was the right read in that situation. It was a TD if he had that extra half second. Sure, Diggs was open, but if the shot is there for the TD, you pull the trigger. Now, I get the argument in the grand scheme of things. Does that play need to be called in the first place or is there a better play that maybe would have given more options that would have gotten the first down to burn some more clock? Sure.....I get that argument. And if you want to blame someone on that play, blame Brady for calling it. But it was called and Allen made the correct read. It was there and was a split second away from connecting. If you call that play, and it's there to be made, you try to make it and take the lead. I know it's Mahomes and I know we hadn't stopped them the entire game, but this is professional football. Score, take the lead, and then find a way to keep them out of the end zone. Just find a way. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Love Josh, but I’m not sure what we were trying to do on that last possession. We had them where we wanted , time running down and not much they could do about it. The play sequence at that point was strange. Allen should have been running and forced KC to think about burning time outs. Josh missed a wide open Shakir in the middle of the EZ. He came up short when it mattered most. This one stings - a lot . 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 26 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: McD isn’t calling the plays. I understand he should be dictating the strategy but what you’re describing is probably unrealistic for a defensive head coach. Maybe a defensive head coach is the wrong solution but that’s a different issue. Right... It's only the strategy I'm talking about... Not the plays...At the 2 minute McD tells the offense we have to play for at least one more 1st down and run this clock... Dial up your best two 5 yard plays...Stay in bounds...Then run it on 1st, probably with Josh, and see if we can get 5 more...Force them to take their TO's bare minimum... Anyway... Whatever... It just seemed so obvious to me what the proper strategy was... Maybe I'm wrong... I don't know... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Preds said: Sadly I don’t see Josh ever hoisting the Lombardi as a Buffalo Bill (maybe later in his career after he moves on to a true championship caliber team to chase a championship like Peytonwas able to). I unfortunately have zero faith that we’ll ever see Allen winning or even making it to the Super Bowl under this coaching staff. wish we had a regime that provide him a quality OFFENSIVE minded Head Coach and a GM who would stop wasting draft picks and cap space on on the ***** defensive players the failed defensive HC demands, instead of providing Allen with elite WR’s to throw to. The Bills need to draft multiple WR’s for Allen early and often this year. The scrap heap he’s been given the past few years is just embarrassing. Diggs is either hurt or hit the walll. At this point he is barely in the conversation as a WR2. It’s difficult to continue witnessing the futility of this staff and the repetitive beat down of Allen each season as the team around him lets him down season after season after season due to poor coaching and roster construction. We are sadly watching a generational talent’s career waste away. He deserves an opportunity to play for a Super Bowl, something highly unlikely to happen with McD leading the organization. It’s so frustrating. Cant say you’re wrong, but also we were under two mins left and Josh had the easy crossing route to diggs wide open for the first and to run the clock and instead tried to get aggressive with an endzone pass. The game was right there for the taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmm3 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Here once again to reinforce how very much I hate Tyler Bass. Go Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, KOKBILLS said: Right... It's only the strategy I'm talking about... Not the plays...At the 2 minute McD tells the offense we have to play for at least one more 1st down and run this clock... Dial up your best two 5 yard plays...Stay in bounds...Then run it on 1st, probably with Josh, and see if we can get 5 more...Force them to take their TO's bare minimum... Anyway... Whatever... It just seemed so obvious to me what the proper strategy was... Maybe I'm wrong... I don't know... You're not wrong. That should have been the strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, KOKBILLS said: Right... It's only the strategy I'm talking about... Not the plays...At the 2 minute McD tells the offense we have to play for at least one more 1st down and run this clock... Dial up your best two 5 yard plays...Stay in bounds...Then run it on 1st, probably with Josh, and see if we can get 5 more...Force them to take their TO's bare minimum... Anyway... Whatever... It just seemed so obvious to me what the proper strategy was... Maybe I'm wrong... I don't know... it was painfully obvious and i’m still perplexed how the final plays played out. Just not intelligent football. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, sven233 said: I see a lot of complaining about the TD shot on 3rd down. That was only 2nd down actually. On third down they had three guys running crossers short of the sticks so Allen held it rolling out and ran out of real estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Yeah I get it, but I don't know why you'd bother saying that right now, it's like hey at least we lose well. I mean you know what happens next right, the Chiefs return to normal next week dropping passes playing like ***** and get the doors blown off them by the Ravens, just like with the Bengals after 13 seconds, just so we can think why'd they even bother winning. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, JROC INTEL said: it was painfully obvious and i’m still perplexed how the final plays played out. Just not intelligent football. Agree that's my thinking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Josh missed a wide open Shakir in the middle of the EZ. I think if he doesn't get bumped during the release he hits that post perfectly and they take the lead. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven50 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 20 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Moving on from the coach is not irrational. I thought the people who said to move on from McD after 13 seconds were irrational, it turns out they were right. He did a great job building us up and ending the drought. But he clearly can't play with the big dogs. Defense is his specialty and the D was an embarrassment tonight by every metric. Yes we had injuries. More than most. You move on from your coach when you have a team that has superstars or stars that are under achieving. We dont have a team of stars. We have a bunch of people no one else has ever heard of except for us, the ones that are stars include: Tre - injured not playing. Von Miller - a shadow of his former self. Diggs - lost his focus and seems disinterested Milano - out for the season and of course Josh Allen and a rookie TE that will probably be a star in the future. No one else besides us can name anyone else on our roster. This game was close enough that 1 or 2 players (Milano?) or 1 or 2 plays (dropped passes? poor decisions?) could have changed the outcome. This irrational FIRE EVERYONE! BLOW IT UP! stuff is just nonsense. The, "we cant criticize Josh Allen! He is God" when he makes a poor decision thing is dumb as well. There are 32 teams in the NFL, 28 didn't make it as a far as us. So ya, I stand by what I said, he had a great game but that one throw was a bad decision. Its not the end of the world. Edited January 22 by steven50 wrong spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanislebills44 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 the play 2 me was the missed read 2 diggs on 2nd down, diggs coulda walked for 15yards stay in bounds kill clock..any fg 2 tie meant little to me, as mahomes woulda had 1.30left n 2 timeouts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, JROC INTEL said: Cant say you’re wrong, but also we were under two mins left and Josh had the easy crossing route to diggs wide open for the first and to run the clock and instead tried to get aggressive with an endzone pass. The game was right there for the taking. Even if he took the crossing route there is no guarantee it’s accurate with Dawkins getting pushed into him. Both shots were there and with a clean pocket that’s a TD. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BananaB Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Simon said: That was only 2nd down actually. On third down they had three guys running crossers short of the sticks so Allen held it rolling out and ran out of real estate. Possibly knew McD was gonna go for FG if it came up short. Be my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 13 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Kind of a weird tweet from CBS...could see KC tweeting that but kind of weird for CBS to dunk on the Bills They are dunking on Paramount, a direct competitor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 8 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: Right... It's only the strategy I'm talking about... Not the plays...At the 2 minute McD tells the offense we have to play for at least one more 1st down and run this clock... Dial up your best two 5 yard plays...Stay in bounds...Then run it on 1st, probably with Josh, and see if we can get 5 more...Force them to take their TO's bare minimum... Anyway... Whatever... It just seemed so obvious to me what the proper strategy was... Maybe I'm wrong... I don't know... Yes, grind the clock. Treat it like you're up and trying to salt the game away. If you give it back you lose. Obviously once you run out of downs you might have to kick the FG but depending on the distance I would go for it on 4th down. Best chance of a win was scoring a TD there with under a minute on the clock and no timeouts for KC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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L Ron Burgundy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, steven50 said: You move on from your coach when you have a team that has superstars or stars that are under achieving. We dont have a team of stars. We have a bunch of people no one else has ever heard of except for us, the ones that are stars are: Tre - injured not playing. Von Miller - a shadow of his former self. Diggs - lost his focus and seems disinterested Milano - out for the season and of course Josh Allen and a rookie TE that will probably be a star in the future. No one else besides us can name anyone else on our roster. This game was close enough that 1 or 2 players (Milano?) or 1 or 2 plays (dropped passes? poor decisions?) could have changed the outcome. This irrational FIRE EVERYONE! BLOW IT UP! stuff is just nonsense. The, "we cant criticize Josh Allen! He is God" when he makes a poor decision thing is dumb as well. There are 32 teams in the NFL, 28 didn't make it as a far as us. So ya, I stand by what I said, he had a great game but that one throw was a bad decision. Its not the end of the world. Acceptable answer. Josh isnt above criticism. Anyone saying this game is his fault though is being absurd but criticizing him for a couple plays is fair. My response would be pointing out that we have a defensive coach whose defense has consistently let us down in the playoffs. This isn't the first time our d has been carved like swiss cheese. So why keep him if he isn't good at the thing he's supposed to specialize in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Simon Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, TheFunPolice said: Yes, grind the clock. Treat it like you're up and trying to salt the game away. If you give it back you lose. Obviously once you run out of downs you might have to kick the FG but depending on the distance I would go for it on 4th down. Best chance of a win was scoring a TD there with under a minute on the clock and no timeouts for KC Yeah I though they got a little too aggressive coming out of the 2:00 warning. It's better than turtling, but they could have managed it better while still staying proactive. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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