Steptide Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Dear NBC, we all hate Collinsworth and like Michaels betterĀ 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, chongli said: Ā Now might be a good time to get Peacock, which has local NBC on its higher tier, IIRC. Or over-the-air works too. Ā Peacock is another $5.99/month. I watch the free version but at some point a few months ago the Dan Patrick shows became delayed a day. The Friday show is no good to me Monday morning. I am quickly falling into the SCREW the NFL, and Peacock and every other service they want to *** out to to make an extra buck.Ā Ā I donāt hate anyone for being rich. I might have issues with how the sausage was made.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 āFirst World Problemsā could be an alternative title on this thread, my dear Monsieur Michaels! š¤·š¼āāļøš 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I grew up on Al Michaels monday night football. He seemed bored, unenthused and unimpressed during the games this year. That is probably due to the quality of games on thursdays this year and not his age.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 This confirms what I think Iāve known for a while. Many people pay FAR more attention to the announcers than I do.Ā 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: I grew up on Al Michaels monday night football. He seemed bored, unenthused and unimpressed during the games this year. That is probably due to the quality of games on thursdays this year and not his age.Ā You missed the Howard Cossell era then. The entire nation would tune in just to hear what he and Don Meredith would have to say. It was great fun!Ā 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, SoCal Deek said: You missed the Howard Cossell era then. The entire nation would tune in just to hear what he and Don Meredith would have to say. It was great fun!Ā Ā Back in the day you tuned in just because they had that quick run of highlights from each game. THAT was your view into the NFL that weekend. Things have changed, a bit.Ā 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Augie said: Ā Back in the day you tuned in just because they had that quick run of highlights from each game. THAT was your view into the NFL that weekend. Things have changed, a bit.Ā I remember being allowed to stay up on a school night just praying the Bills would be among those highlights. We rarely were. š 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: It seems to me that many people these days are having real trouble calling it quits before theyāve past their prime. When you get to a certain stage or age itās time to move on and let the next generation take these limited spots. Ā Iām all for tradition but you have to look in a mirror.Ā Ā That's why I retired at the first available opportunity. I have no regrets about that and the young woman who took my former position had been a student of mine, so it was doubly sweet. I do some freelancing in a related field - I like to say that it's to supplement the pension, but really, I just enjoy the work and it's a very light load. Ā 46 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: In my now retired life Iāve learned it isnāt about money. These guys entire existence is wrapped up in their ājobā. Youāve got it right when you say move over and let the new guys do their thing.Ā Ā Yeah, their careers are their identities. It's sad, actually. Ā My career was just one facet of my life, but certainly not my identity. It was easy to walk away. I miss certain aspects of it, but not enough that I would ever consider going back. Ā Ā Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I think Michaels is still on his game--no schtick needed. Ā He calls it as it is and I think the networks have had enough of that. Ā Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) This is the worst thing an NBC exec has done since Don Ohlmeyer fired Norm from weekend update. That guy was a real jerk! Ā Seriously though, there's a certain mystique about the way Al Michaels calls a game. His style is unparalleled. Still my favourite play by play announcer next to Dick Enberg. Edited December 13, 2023 by QB Bills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 3 hours ago, GoBills808 said: No surprise Ā Best days are way in the rearview This is what happens when youāve beenā¦ Ā Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 The dude thatās really starting to wear on me is the guy whoās constantly yelling on every play as if itās the first time heās called a football game (Gus Johnson?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The dude thatās really starting to wear on me is the guy whoās constantly yelling on every play as if itās the first time heās called a football game (Gus Johnson?) Ā that's schtick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 When can we move on from Collinsworth? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Yay, more company man Mike Tirico... Ā You know NBC truly hates you when it dares you to watch the Tony Dungy/Jason Garrett broadcast.Ā Little League World Series games have more cutting commentary.Ā Ā Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 49 minutes ago, Augie said: This confirms what I think Iāve known for a while. Many people pay FAR more attention to the announcers than I do.Ā I have said for years, and still maintain, that other than maybe friends & family, absolutely no one tunes in to ANY sports contest because who is announcing the contest. People watch a sports event because: itās their team (or for golf/tennis, they follow a certain player), itās a great matchup between 2 good teams (or two good singular athletes), it's the playoffs and great games are expected, or they're betting on the event or player. Ā The amount of money paid to these announcers is just absolutely mind boggling. There's no need for it. Fans will watch their team, or their favorite player, or a great matchup no matter who is calling it. Conversely, if it's bad teams, or a crap matchup, no one is tuning in because Nance & Romo are calling it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Ā that's schtick ExactlyĀ I donāt need three hours of schtick. Seems like he does it on every single play now.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 51 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I remember being allowed to stay up on a school night just praying the Bills would be among those highlights. We rarely were. š We were there often enough, just not on the right end of things.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: I have said for years, and still maintain, that other than maybe friends & family, absolutely no one tunes in to ANY sports contest because who is announcing the contest. People watch a sports event because: itās their team (or for golf/tennis, they follow a certain player), itās a great matchup between 2 good teams (or two good singular athletes), it's the playoffs and great games are expected, or they're betting on the event or player. Ā The amount of money paid to these announcers is just absolutely mind boggling. There's no need for it. Fans will watch their team, or their favorite player, or a great matchup no matter who is calling it. Conversely, if it's bad teams, or a crap matchup, no one is tuning in because Nance & Romo are calling it. Ā Bad announcing though absolutely impacts my ability to enjoy a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 38 minutes ago, dpberr said: Yay, more company man Mike Tirico... Ā You know NBC truly hates you when it dares you to watch the Tony Dungy/Jason Garrett broadcast.Ā Little League World Series games have more cutting commentary.Ā Ā Ā Ā Well, thankfully, this year NBC will haveĀ Noah Eagle, Todd Blackledge, and Kathryn Tappen calling on of their Wild Card games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Bob Jones said: I have said for years, and still maintain, that other than maybe friends & family, absolutely no one tunes in to ANY sports contest because who is announcing the contest. People watch a sports event because: itās their team (or for golf/tennis, they follow a certain player), itās a great matchup between 2 good teams (or two good singular athletes), it's the playoffs and great games are expected, or they're betting on the event or player. Ā The amount of money paid to these announcers is just absolutely mind boggling. There's no need for it. Fans will watch their team, or their favorite player, or a great matchup no matter who is calling it. Conversely, if it's bad teams, or a crap matchup, no one is tuning in because Nance & Romo are calling it. Great point, never understood the money thrown at these announcers.Ā Ā If its my team or SNF, MNF, or TNF im watching unless its a blowout, announcers have no impact on my decision.Ā Ā Just as what musician does the lead in has no impact on if im watching or not.Ā When I read NBC pays Carrie Underwood a million a game for SNF, I was thinking, you don't have better uses for 17 million?Ā Ā One more point on Al Michaels, I was in high school when he called the miracle on ice, next year Im retiring, again time to give a younger person a shot. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 7 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: I thought Joe Buck and Troy Aikman are the most subdued announcers, both boring. Michaels at least has interesting things to say from time to time and has some voice inflection for certain calls, unlike the aforementioned boring duo. If NBC wants excitement, bring back Gus Johnson. Joe Buck is a nepo baby.Ā Ā He lost me with his faux outrage on the Randy Moss pretend mooning, you would have thought Moss whipped out his junk or something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, billsfan714 said: Joe Buck is a nepo baby.Ā Ā He lost me with his faux outrage on the Randy Moss pretend mooning, you would have thought Moss whipped out his junk or something. Ā Yeah, it was a weird call. Collinsworth seemed to enjoy it though. I actually thought it was hilarious: Ā Ā Edited December 13, 2023 by chongli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Al Michaels is one of the all time greats and one of my favorites.Ā Sucks for him to find out this way.Ā I still liked his commentary but he was pretty low positive since he split from Collinsworth.Ā Hard to blame him. He dealt with a lot of really bad Thursday night football games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Loyalty is a 2 way street, when Al chased the big bucks from amazon, I bet the NBC people weren't thrilled.Ā Well he got the money and the less than awesome Thursday night lineup.Ā Ā Now he gets no playoff games, so enjoy the money Al and look forward to next years Panthers/Cardinals game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 6 hours ago, chongli said: Ā Yeah, it was a weird call. Collinsworth seemed to enjoy it though. I actually thought it was hilarious: Ā Ā Ā Buck: "that is a disgusting act by Randy Moss....." Aikman: "Well lets get back to the play" Ā LOL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I hope Amazon continues to get more games. It's the best football-watching experience now in my opinon. The pre and post-game analysts are far-better than any other network and the ability to pause the game and pick up where I left off is unrivaled (especially as the father of a 9-month-old).Ā 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 He is 79? I didn't know that. He looks pretty good for his age. Ā I gotta agree though, his broadcasts are on the sleepy side. Must be because he's 79. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 These old guys cost the network a lot of money. It's best to install self check outĀ scanners for instant scores and highlights.Ā 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said: These old guys cost the network a lot of money. It's best to install self check outĀ scanners for instant scores and highlights.Ā I figured you would say "We'll always have Lake Placid, Al..." š¤ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 30, 2023 Author Share Posted December 30, 2023 UPDATE: Ā Al Michaels says he will return next year to continue broadcasting TNF on Amazon Prime: Ā Ā "I feel good," Michaels said. "I feel healthy. I feel fine. I told Amazon that I'd do three years and next year will be three, and I'm definitely doing it. We'll see after that." Ā "I still love this job. I still get a charge out of going into a stadium and watching the best in the world do what they do. I'm still really happy so that's the big thing. Ā [...] Ā "Amazon has been really great to me and I'm appreciative that I've been a part of helping them grow their NFL presence," Michaels said. Ā Michaels has actually been a miracle for Amazon Prime. He meshes well with analyst Kirk Herbstreit who isn't flashy but his straightforward bluntness with little bombast is refreshing Ā [...] Ā Herbstreit earlier this month defended Michaels from criticism that some of his broadcasts lacked energy. Ā "He hears the noise. I don't think he's like, 'I'll show them. I'm going to really bring it this week.' Heās definitely not doing that,"Ā Herbstreit said.Ā "He has more of an āF youā attitude about it than 'I'm going to show them.' He thinks it's a bunch of bullsh--. I think it's a bunch of bullsh--. And I think it's just a narrative that social media's kind of running with." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 We were watching the All Madden documentary and they talked about how NBC tried basically every year to get Madden to do a one off broadcast and he never wanted to do it because he figured he went out on top with the Cardinals Steelers Super Bowl. Ā I get both sides of that. Madden was a guy who left a little early. Michaels is probably way past his prime. But if he truly loves it then we're the beneficiaries. Ā He's still very good. As a fan, I appreciate his work and I'm ok with him not being the same as he was 10 years ago.Ā Ā I would have freaking loved a one off Madden Michaels broadcast even if Madden wasn't the same Madden we remembered.Ā Ā Ā Ā 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Wonder if theyāll have as many God Awful matchups on TNF next year as they did this year? š¤ If the combination of crappy teams and Al & Kirk doesnāt put you to sleep, youāre probably high on speed. š 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: Wonder if theyāll have as many God Awful matchups on TNF next year as they did this year? š¤ If the combination of crappy teams and Al & Kirk doesnāt put you to sleep, youāre probably high on speed. š Ā Many of the games looked better when scheduled by the AWS algorithm.Ā Maybe NFL needs better parameters for the program. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 12/13/2023 at 8:55 AM, chongli said: Ā Yeah, it was a weird call. Collinsworth seemed to enjoy it though. I actually thought it was hilarious: Ā Ā Really bizarre overreaction by Joe Buck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Ā Many of the games looked better when scheduled by the AWS algorithm.Ā Maybe NFL needs better parameters for the program. Ā What is this AWS algorithm you speak of?Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Ā What is this AWS algorithm you speak of?Ā The NFL season is scheduled largely in part by machine learning powered by the AWS cloud. Whatever the scheduling rules and year by year alignments are, they punch all that into the system and they get the NFL schedule. Ā Honestly would be curious to know more about how it works on a deeper level, and what manual human input it still utilizes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Ā What is this AWS algorithm you speak of?Ā Ā https://aws.amazon.com/sports/nfl/next-gen-stats-schedule-qa/#:~:text=What role does AWS play,of our friends at AWS. Ā NFL replaced usual method of generating schedule with Amazon generated one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 3:59 PM, Jauronimo said: No one expects NBC Executives!!Ā Their main weapon is surprise. Surprise and Cris Collinsworth's inane rambling. Their *two* main weapons are surprise, Cris Collinsworth's inane ramblings, and near fanatical devotion to Taylor Swift.Ā *Among* their weapons are surprise, Cris Collinsworth's ramblings, and fanatical devotion to Taylor Swift and thats it.Ā Also, a dizzying array of irrelevant talking heads that add no value to the broadcast...@#$@#% Outstanding!Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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