McDermott's Two Minute Defense This Year vs Past Seasons

[Scott7975]

I seen these on twitter today.  Not sure if they have been posted somewhere here or not but I thought people would find them interesting

 

 

 

[Mister Defense]

Thank you for this, as I  had wanted to know this important information.

 

I thought this was the case, as I cannot recall this happening very much under Frazier, with mainly the KC  playoff game coming to mind.

 

And I cannot recall ever feeling like I do now, that the defense was going to allow some late in game or over time drives to blow the game.

 

A huge reason why McDermott will not be the DC next year, and in my view, why Frazier is once again leading the defense.

 

 

Edited November 30, 2023 by Mister Defense

[Chaos]

It is always good to see the data. Confirms the eyeball test of every adult football fan with an IQ over 80.

[Scott7975]

56 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

Thank you for this, as I  had wanted to know this important information.

 

I thought this was the case, as I cannot recall this happening very much under Frazier, with mainly the KC  playoff game coming to mind.

 

And I cannot recall ever feeling like I do now, that the defense was going to allow some late in game or over time drives to blow the game.

 

A huge reason why McDermott will not be the DC next year, and in my view, why Frazier is once again leading the defense.

 

 

 

51 minutes ago, Chaos said:

It is always good to see the data. Confirms the eyeball test of every adult football fan with an IQ over 80.

 

Yeah, I am not sure if injuries are effecting that and maybe even age of some key players losing a step.  I'd love to see a video of someone breaking down the difference between Frazier and McD defense.  I know McD has been a bit more aggressive but I really do not know much of the differences and whats going on this year.

Edited November 30, 2023 by Scott7975

[frostbitmic]

One question ... What two minute defense ?

[BBFL]

Stats are for losers. Apparently. 

[Chaos]

It seems McDermotts defense has become stale and predictable.  So far it seems every opponent has an opening script to score and a two minute script to score which works against the Bills.  

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, Chaos said:

It seems McDermotts defense has become stale and predictable.  So far it seems every opponent has an opening script to score and a two minute script to score which works against the Bills.  

 

Didn't one of the Eagles players (I forgot who it was) say he couldn't believe the Bills defense on the winning TD as the play is one of their favorites to run and the Bills should have been prepared for it. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

10 hours ago, Mister Defense said:

Thank you for this, as I  had wanted to know this important information.

 

I thought this was the case, as I cannot recall this happening very much under Frazier, with mainly the KC  playoff game coming to mind.

 

And I cannot recall ever feeling like I do now, that the defense was going to allow some late in game or over time drives to blow the game.

 

A huge reason why McDermott will not be the DC next year, and in my view, why Frazier is once again leading the defense.

 

 

Yup and until Frazier says differently I firmly believe McD called the defense for 13 seconds.  He called a defensive TO before both KC plays. 

 

[SoCal Deek]

I was flipping channels and saw last Sunday’s game was being replayed on NFL Network. When I joined it was the end of Eagles overtime drive. Literally the last minute of the game. The Eagles had a 3rd down on our 40 yard line and they picked up the easiest First down since kids starting playing in their backyard. McDs defense was playing ten yards off the line of scrimmage on a Third and Three. The receiver walked out, turned around, caught the ball and stepped out of bounds. I’d seen enough! Sheesh 

[zow2]

McDermott seemed different in the weekly media sessions this week.  He seemed almost apologetic at times.  I'm sure he knows he is letting the team down as much as anyone.  

[WinterSoldier17]

11 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

Didn't one of the Eagles players (I forgot who it was) say he couldn't believe the Bills defense on the winning TD as the play is one of their favorites to run and the Bills should have been prepared for it. 

Yep, it was Jordan Mailata.

 

Quote

“After the game, Eagles offensive lineman Jordan Mailata said he “couldn’t believe” the Bills were caught in a defense that led to a walk-in touchdown for Hurts.

Speaking to reporters after the game, the veteran tackle said the Eagles offense knew immediately that they would score the game-clinching touchdown when they saw the Bills line up on defense.

“Jordan Mailata said on the game winning touchdown that he couldn’t believe the Bills gave them that look,” the NFL Network’s James Palmer shared on X, formerly known as Twitter. “That play is a staple within their offense and when they saw the safety move they all knew Jalen would score.”

 

 

 

[uticaclub]

3 minutes ago, zow2 said:

McDermott seemed different in the weekly media sessions this week.  He seemed almost apologetic at times.  I'm sure he knows he is letting the team down as much as anyone.  

He knows he's a dead man walking. Even if we go 5-0; we aren't making the playoffs. He had his opportunity with a generational QB and he blew it. You give Dick Jauron, Josh Allen at QB and he's not missing the playoffs

[Bermuda Triangle]

10 hours ago, Mister Defense said:

Thank you for this, as I  had wanted to know this important information.

 

I thought this was the case, as I cannot recall this happening very much under Frazier, with mainly the KC  playoff game coming to mind.

 

And I cannot recall ever feeling like I do now, that the defense was going to allow some late in game or over time drives to blow the game.

 

A huge reason why McDermott will not be the DC next year, and in my view, why Frazier is once again leading the defense.

 

 

Aside from :13

 

2022: loss @ NYJ (Wilson leads NYJ to late GW FG), VIkings debacle

2021: loss @ Titans (Tenn scores last 10 points, including winning TD with 3:05 left.  This was the "Allen slip" game), OT Loss at TB

2020: Hail Murray

2019: loss @ CLE

 

[Billsfan1972]

So what you're saying is that Frazier's D was good and McD's is terrible?

 

The prior year's sample size must be small as Bills seldom were in pressure packed 2 minute drills, however in OT they always allow a score, hail murray too and others.

 

Remember stop vs. KC too.

 

2021 they were awful in one score games too.

Edited November 30, 2023 by Billsfan1972

[zow2]

Whatever McD's defensive "legacy" was with the Bills or previous teams has been blown up in my mind.  His defensive schemes, his crunch time decision making...Just sucks.  There's nothing more that can be said.   

 

You're supposed to be good at one thing Sean,  Defense, and you suck.

[Don Otreply]

That our defense is configured to play zone with almost no man capacity is sad…, that our DC plays CBs etc well off the line of scrimmage in clutch moments is as well sad, that he keeps getting his azs handed to him for doing it and not making adjustments takes the cake…, 

 

GO BILLS!!! 

[Santana]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

 

Didn't one of the Eagles players (I forgot who it was) say he couldn't believe the Bills defense on the winning TD as the play is one of their favorites to run and the Bills should have been prepared for it. 

Yeah I saw this as well, they knew the exact defense he was calling 0 coverage or something like that.

[Mister Defense]

1 hour ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Aside from :13

 

2022: loss @ NYJ (Wilson leads NYJ to late GW FG), VIkings debacle

2021: loss @ Titans (Tenn scores last 10 points, including winning TD with 3:05 left.  This was the "Allen slip" game), OT Loss at TB

2020: Hail Murray

2019: loss @ CLE

 

 

 

Come on! You cannot believe that the defense was the reason they lost that Minnesota game, a fluke loss, and ditto for the Hail Mary at Arizona--but I think the huge stretch to say these are the same kind of losses, overall, makes the point that Frazier's defenses held leads and were very consistent, reliable.

 

These are consistent types of losses this year, and all in the same year.  Yes, lack of their best linebacker, cornerback, and high level, vital D tackle may have a lot to do with it, but the defense's unique, late game break downs this year cannot be ignored--or compared to any other years under McD's leadership.

 

That being said, the defense is NOT the reason this team may be on the outside looking out for this year's playoffs. That is clearly, unequivocally on the weak pathetic shoulders of one man,  now gone.

 

[Livinginthepast]

10 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

One question ... What two minute defense ?

Willard : They told me that you had gone totally insane, and that your methods were unsound.

Kurtz : Are my methods unsound? 

Willard : I don't see any method at all, sir.

[Bermuda Triangle]

9 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

 

 

Come on! You cannot believe that the defense was the reason they lost that Minnesota game, a fluke loss, and ditto for the Hail Mary at Arizona--but I think the huge stretch to say these are the same kind of losses, overall, makes the point that Frazier's defenses held leads and were very consistent, reliable.

 

These are consistent types of losses this year, and all in the same year.  Yes, lack of their best linebacker, cornerback, and high level, vital D tackle may have a lot to do with it, but the defense's unique, late game break downs this year cannot be ignored--or compared to any other years under McD's leadership.

 

That being said, the defense is NOT the reason this team may be on the outside looking out for this year's playoffs. That is clearly, unequivocally on the weak pathetic shoulders of one man,  now gone.

 

Huh?

 

In the Minnesota game, the Bills went up 27-10 with 1:51 left in the 3rd quarter.  A mere 17 seconds later, Dalvin Cook ripped off an 81-yard TD run.  And we'll all remember the 4th and 18 Justin Jefferson catch, on which play I'm not sure exactly what Cam Lewis was doing.  Minnesota rolled up 480+ yards of offense.

 

In the Hail Murray game, the Bills went up 23-9 with 9:52 left in the 3rd quarter, and fell behind 23-26 before the end of the 3rd quarter.   AZ had 450+ yards of total offense.  

[BBFL]

The positive in the second graphic?

 

At least we are ahead of Miami and New England in that regard…

 

Should be 2 wins if we can get in front. 

Or do we just play like trash and come in last minute seeing as they are worse…

 

 

🤔

[colin]

mcd is simply a choker.  he coaches below his ability when the pressure is on, and either just defends the deep pass to not allow the big walk off td or runs some kamakazee blitz that we aren't even good at.

 

not only is he calling the wrong plays, but he's giving the other team easy yards and supreme confidence, all while lower the confidence of our own team.  do you think the bills players aren't soberly aware that their all world qb hasn't won a single OT game?

 

in order to stop our o, which is better than anyone we have faced except maybe miami (and even then, i think our potential is higher) teams do all sorts of things that are reasonably effective.  just rushing 3 and dropping 8 with some disguise might slow the O down enough to burn time and make the qb take a shorter outlet which is basically guaranteeing a win when the clock is low and you need to get in fg range.  instead we lose games with the same damn playcall.  the lesson is clear and you know the bills staff is aware, it's just that mcd is a choker and can't help himself.

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, zow2 said:

McDermott seemed different in the weekly media sessions this week.  He seemed almost apologetic at times.  I'm sure he knows he is letting the team down as much as anyone.  

 

It's the 2nd time in his tenure he's managed to turn an all time QB performance into a loss. He's on the cusp of turning Allen's best season into no playoff appearance. QBs like Gardner Minshew and Kenny Pickett might make it in, but not Josh Allen. Yeah McDermott should feel like total crap and he should apologize.

[Peter]

As it turns out, McClappy fired the wrong coordinator . . . .

 

When speaking of the importance of "complementary" football, McClappy should have looked in the mirror.

Edited November 30, 2023 by Peter

[FireChans]

13 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

I seen these on twitter today.  Not sure if they have been posted somewhere here or not but I thought people would find them interesting

 

 

 

Bills defense has been pretty good except the one year where the entire defense is injured or old is pretty consistent with the eye test, personally.

[zow2]

13 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

It's the 2nd time in his tenure he's managed to turn an all time QB performance into a loss. He's on the cusp of turning Allen's best season into no playoff appearance. QBs like Gardner Minshew and Kenny Pickett might make it in, but not Josh Allen. Yeah McDermott should feel like total crap and he should apologize.

 

Yeah good point.  I saw that teams with the Bills offensive proficiency in a game were 39-0 in NFL history,  until Sunday night. 

That alone should get his seat blazing hot, let alone the other mystifying failures.

[Livinginthepast]

2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

I was flipping channels and saw last Sunday’s game was being replayed on NFL Network. When I joined it was the end of Eagles overtime drive. Literally the last minute of the game. The Eagles had a 3rd down on our 40 yard line and they picked up the easiest First down since kids starting playing in their backyard. McDs defense was playing ten yards off the line of scrimmage on a Third and Three. The receiver walked out, turned around, caught the ball and stepped out of bounds. I’d seen enough! Sheesh 

How many times in the last 3 years have you seen that exact same play done over and over again. With McD and Frazier's defense, I would say at least 40 times.  If they couldn't stop it with all of their top defensive starters like Milano, White etc on the field then what possible chance do they have with backups?? How in the hell does McD not get that? No pass rush and soft zone gets you burned every time. Blitzing against certain QBs (in 2 min offense) who can get the ball out quick also gets you burned. McD does nothing to confuse the QBs and doesnt play man coverage or order his defense to jam these receivers at the line. In 13 seconds had they held Kelsey or Hill and got a flag they would have only gained 5 yards and an automatic first down but bled the clock so that a FG wasnt possible. But of course none of these things was even planned at all or if so not executed properly!

[HumbleAndHungry]

Well there goes the "it was Leslie" narrative 

[JerseyBills]

Defense looked phenomenal before the London game, Milano is irreplaceable in this D

[The Firebaugh Kid]

3 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

That our defense is configured to play zone with almost no man capacity is sad…, that our DC plays CBs etc well off the line of scrimmage in clutch moments is as well sad, that he keeps getting his azs handed to him for doing it and not making adjustments takes the cake…, 

 

GO BILLS!!! 

With a guy like Elam inactive (or "injured") 

[H2o]

Well....... Who is in full control of calling the defense now? I wonder? 

[Livinginthepast]

22 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Defense looked phenomenal before the London game, Milano is irreplaceable in this D

If your defense hinges on one guy thats a huge problem and fully indicative of poor coaching. It shouldnt be that complicated to insert another backup player into that role to at least be competent. 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

So the stats are only looking at the last two minutes? 

[JohnNord]

3 hours ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Aside from :13

 

2022: loss @ NYJ (Wilson leads NYJ to late GW FG), VIkings debacle

2021: loss @ Titans (Tenn scores last 10 points, including winning TD with 3:05 left.  This was the "Allen slip" game), OT Loss at TB

2020: Hail Murray

2019: loss @ CLE

 

This list is inaccurate.

 

2022:  The Bills defense actually made the stop at the goal line against Minnesota.  Josh fumbled the ball in the end zone and then threw an INT in the end zone to lose the game.

 

2021:  The Bills held the ball last and botched the 4th and inches.  

 

2019:  The Bills offense was on the field at the end of the game and  also had a chance to tie but Hauschka missed the FG.  
 

The discussion here was about his defense on the final possession of games (inside 2 minutes).   Not the possession before the final 2 minutes.  

great example of moving the goal posts to confirm a bias.  

2 hours ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Huh?

 

In the Minnesota game, the Bills went up 27-10 with 1:51 left in the 3rd quarter.  A mere 17 seconds later, Dalvin Cook ripped off an 81-yard TD run.  And we'll all remember the 4th and 18 Justin Jefferson catch, on which play I'm not sure exactly what Cam Lewis was doing.  Minnesota rolled up 480+ yards of offense.

 

In the Hail Murray game, the Bills went up 23-9 with 9:52 left in the 3rd quarter, and fell behind 23-26 before the end of the 3rd quarter.   AZ had 450+ yards of total offense.  

The game was also over because the defense made a clutch stop…. Then Josh fumbled in the end zone.

 

Funny how BT forgot that part 😂😂😂

[SoCal Deek]

2 hours ago, Livinginthepast said:

How many times in the last 3 years have you seen that exact same play done over and over again. With McD and Frazier's defense, I would say at least 40 times.  If they couldn't stop it with all of their top defensive starters like Milano, White etc on the field then what possible chance do they have with backups?? How in the hell does McD not get that? No pass rush and soft zone gets you burned every time. Blitzing against certain QBs (in 2 min offense) who can get the ball out quick also gets you burned. McD does nothing to confuse the QBs and doesnt play man coverage or order his defense to jam these receivers at the line. In 13 seconds had they held Kelsey or Hill and got a flag they would have only gained 5 yards and an automatic first down but bled the clock so that a FG wasnt possible. But of course none of these things was even planned at all or if so not executed properly!

The problem with that particular set up on that particular play is you’d have to be The Flash to get to the QB in time to stop a three yard pass route. Even Romo said at the time ‘What the heck are the Bills doing?’ That situation had nothing to do with injuries to anyone. It was just an unbelievably poor defensive strategy when all the Eagles needed was a measly three yards. Again…..sheesh! 

Edited November 30, 2023 by SoCal Deek

[Scott7975]

7 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

That our defense is configured to play zone with almost no man capacity is sad…, that our DC plays CBs etc well off the line of scrimmage in clutch moments is as well sad, that he keeps getting his azs handed to him for doing it and not making adjustments takes the cake…, 

 

GO BILLS!!! 

 

You know, this is been my biggest beef with this regimes defense.  Even when Frazier was here.  In key situations our guys are always playing back off the ball and giving easy completions.  I would love to see a stat of how many 3rd and longs we give up compared to other teams because it seems like we willingly surrender them.  In the first game of the season against the Jets I seen guys play at the los and thought to myself... good McD made a change in coverage.  That lasted not long.

 

 

[Billsfan1972]

4 hours ago, JohnNord said:

This list is inaccurate.

 

2022:  The Bills defense actually made the stop at the goal line against Minnesota.  Josh fumbled the ball in the end zone and then threw an INT in the end zone to lose the game.

 

2021:  The Bills held the ball last and botched the 4th and inches.  

 

2019:  The Bills offense was on the field at the end of the game and  also had a chance to tie but Hauschka missed the FG.  
 

The discussion here was about his defense on the final possession of games (inside 2 minutes).   Not the possession before the final 2 minutes.  

great example of moving the goal posts to confirm a bias.  

The game was also over because the defense made a clutch stop…. Then Josh fumbled in the end zone.

 

Funny how BT forgot that part 😂😂😂

How about never getting to the goal line and a 70 yard drive?

 

How about stopping a team in OT?

 

The excuses for the D never cease.  When they get a lucky stop, they are praised to the heavens (int vs. KC & Indy).

Edited November 30, 2023 by Billsfan1972

[JohnNord]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

How about never getting to the goal line and a 70 yard drive?

 

How about stopping a team in OT?

 

The excuses for the D never cease.  When they get a lucky stop, they are praised to the heavens (int vs. KC & Indy).

LOL how about not fumbling the kneel down snap 🤣

[BillsFan2313]

9 hours ago, uticaclub said:

He knows he's a dead man walking. Even if we go 5-0; we aren't making the playoffs. He had his opportunity with a generational QB and he blew it. You give Dick Jauron, Josh Allen at QB and he's not missing the playoffs

 If we go 5-0, we are making the playoffs