Einstein Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 11/27/2023 at 6:51 PM, Livinginthepast said: Norwood was a great kicker until wide right killed him. Norwood was 55% from 40+ yards before wide right. He was not good from distance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 6 hours ago, Einstein said: Norwood was 55% from 40+ yards before wide right. He was not good from distance. Yes and he was sometimes iffy on grass for some reason if memory serves but with all that he still was expected to make that kick in the SB. Maybe as fans we were a little oblivious to the statistical realities back then as there was no internet to check and worry about stats on a daily basis but we certainly had the perception that he was one of the better kickers in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Bass is done. I wouldn't be surprised if we brought in any free agent kickers this week to try out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Don’t feed the trolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4.4 million cap hit next year with a 7.4 million dead cap. A really bad and unnecessary extension. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 18 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: 4.4 million cap hit next year with a 7.4 million dead cap. A really bad and unnecessary extension. But, but, but, the Bills front office are professionals! They know what they are doing, and are way smarter than you! /s LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Bass is a terrible bad weather FG kicker for whatever reason. Boswell had no issue yesterday and Butker will school him this weekend. Just hope we don't need 45+ yard FG to win or something. That would be so nerve wracking. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) On 11/26/2023 at 9:01 PM, Dr.Sack said: Stating the obvious this guy has regressed in 2023. Is Bass washed? Washed at like 26 years old. Sounds about right Edited January 16 by Buffalo03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 11/26/2023 at 9:02 PM, Bagwell358 said: He’s mentally screwed and I’m afraid we have seen his best. he’s become a middle of the road kicker. How could you say he’s mentally screwed? His kick was blocked and he missed an extra point on what appears what a bad hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwell358 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 19 minutes ago, JohnNord said: How could you say he’s mentally screwed? His kick was blocked and he missed an extra point on what appears what a bad hold. Buddy I typed this almost two months ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 11 hours ago, Einstein said: Norwood was 55% from 40+ yards before wide right. He was not good from distance. FG kickers 30 years ago were not on the same level as FG kickers today. Gary Anderson was thought of as the best back then. In 1990 he went 8 of 13 from 40+. That's ... 61 percent. And his longest FG was 48. Edited January 16 by The Frankish Reich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Yesterday, after watching the block and the shank, and then also thinking back to the misses vs the Giants and Eagles earlier in the season, my knee jerk reaction was that Bass seriously needed to be replaced, maybe as soon as this week. But, for the most part, this is another case where perception does not equal reality; at least as far as how his performance this season stacks up against his historical averages. He's having a slightly down year, but if you look at his percentages they are not far off his career averages. And this season is actually tied with his best on 50+ yard attempts (4/6). One thing bringing his overall FG% down is the lack of attempts from 20-29 yards, which is really due to us being such a superb red zone team. In 2021, his career year at 87%, he hit 15/15 inside 30 yards. This year he's only attempted four field goals in this range (4/4). https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BassTy00.htm Still, yes, he does "look" shakier, but maybe that's a bit of projection on our part due to recency bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 Bass went 1/4 on FGs in the postseason. Should we bring in some competition? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 47 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Bass went 1/4 on FGs in the postseason. Should we bring in some competition? I think we need to draft a kicker. Bass needs to go. I don’t think he will mentally recover from this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VaMilBill Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 1/16/2024 at 12:25 PM, TheBrownBear said: Yesterday, after watching the block and the shank, and then also thinking back to the misses vs the Giants and Eagles earlier in the season, my knee jerk reaction was that Bass seriously needed to be replaced, maybe as soon as this week. But, for the most part, this is another case where perception does not equal reality; at least as far as how his performance this season stacks up against his historical averages. He's having a slightly down year, but if you look at his percentages they are not far off his career averages. And this season is actually tied with his best on 50+ yard attempts (4/6). One thing bringing his overall FG% down is the lack of attempts from 20-29 yards, which is really due to us being such a superb red zone team. In 2021, his career year at 87%, he hit 15/15 inside 30 yards. This year he's only attempted four field goals in this range (4/4). https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BassTy00.htm Still, yes, he does "look" shakier, but maybe that's a bit of projection on our part due to recency bias. I think if you look at times where we chose to punt over kicking a FG, to me that shows lack of confidence in bass. Bass has also had some brutal misses this year. his numbers are bad, his actual kicking looks bad, and he doesn’t have the confidence from his teammates anymore. Gotta get rid of him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 11/26/2023 at 9:01 PM, Dr.Sack said: Stating the obvious this guy has regressed in 2023. Is Bass washed? Damn. You called it 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 1/16/2024 at 8:14 AM, Back2Buff said: 4.4 million cap hit next year with a 7.4 million dead cap. A really bad and unnecessary extension. Yeah another McBeane F***up contract extension. He is really good at giving money away to players that don't deserve it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) We see an opposing kicker make a game tying FG from 59 yards in a driving rain storm and this turd can’t make a 40 something yard kick when it matters most. I wish I never had to see him in a Bills uniform again. Edited January 22 by Beast 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The OP's topic is Bass = Norwood. Which sounds like it's bullying Bass, but in reality it's bullying Norwood. The quality of kickers overall is so much better than it was three decades ago, and unlike Norwood then, there's really no excuse for Bass's recent performances today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 If we're going to have another terrible kicker could he have the decency to miss it wide LEFT. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurfToeJam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) On 1/16/2024 at 8:38 AM, zow2 said: Bass is a terrible bad weather FG kicker for whatever reason. Boswell had no issue yesterday and Butker will school him this weekend. Just hope we don't need 45+ yard FG to win or something. That would be so nerve wracking. Welp. 😔 Edited January 22 by TurfToeJam 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, Beast said: We see an opposing kicker make a game tying FG from 59 yards in a driving rain storm and this turd can’t made a 40 something yard kick when it matters most. I wish I never had to see him in a Bills uniform again. Yeah that O-Matic moniker sure didn't marinate well. He's done and so is Martin. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The thing is, they will bring Bass back and I think it is a mistake. Sure, he's made some big kicks for us. But this is the kind of kick.....coupled with how bad he's been down the stretch, that no matter how mentally tough you are, you will think about every time you are in a clutch situation. And that is very dangerous to have as a team in critical moments. I think you have to cut him now and start fresh. Otherwise, there won't be any confidence foe a crucial kick in the future. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Eagerly waiting for the sequel to Buffalo 66 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Bills trade up for 1st rd kicker incoming 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zow2 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, TurfToeJam said: Welp. 😔 Yep. That was predictable for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LABILLBACKER Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 11/27/2023 at 12:08 PM, Allen2Moulds said: He has a knack for missing in must have it games. He seems perfect in blowouts against inferior opponents. I do get Norwood vibes from Bass. I have very little trust in him. Because he's not a clutch kicker like Viniteri, Elliott, Butker, Tucker etc. Did you guys miss how close he almost missed those first 2 extra points tonight. Bass isn't going to magically have a bounce back confidence infused year next season. Time to go in a different direction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 So would we consider this thread a prediction or a curse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So would we consider this thread a prediction or a curse? Both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 all too prescient. now please burn this thread. Bass is done as kicker here. Kickers are too easy to replace now. Understandable mcbeane didn’t wanna do it the last 2 months, but he can’t be brought back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nklaiste1 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Kicker is such an underrated position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The 4 super bowls started with a wide right, the 4 straight humiliating divisional+ round playoff exits end in a wide right to end the curse?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Never put the game in the hands of a kicker. Ever 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 Just now, BillMafia716ix said: Never put the game in the hands of a kicker. Ever Allen tried to not do that but his LT couldn’t hold up to the All-Pro bull rush. Needed McGovern to slide left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 15 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So would we consider this thread a prediction or a curse? Considering that this forum is so devoted to curses, why didn’t anyone bother to curse our opponents all year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmm3 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Bass is trash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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