2024 Changes

[TFBillsfan]

With Dorsey relieved as the OC, Brady will now audition for the role, but barring this team valuing the ball I don’t anticipate much changing this season. It’s more likely they have a losing record than a winning record when the season concludes. McDermott and Beane will need to select an OC and DC which will be critical hires.  McDermott is and should be on the hot seat. His teams under his leadership are outcoached, unprepared, undisciplined and continue to find new games to lose they have no busy losing.

 

Big changes coming on D!

 

YTD, Von has ONE tackle and an assist. Honestly, I don’t see why he’s even active on game days. Big cap hit if released but his game looks down.

 

SECONDARY: Tre, Poyer and Hyde likely gone. That leaves Rapp, Benford, Douglas, Elam, Jackson and Johnson. Will need to add a safety.

 

LB: Milano, Bernard and D Williams. Need to add LB depth

 

DL: Gotta get DQ and AJE resigned. Ed, Groot and I’d resign L Joseph. Most likely moving on from Settle and Phillips.

 

Punter: Martin probably won’t be back

 

Offensively: Don’t expect Morse to be back. Will need a center. Most importantly will need to upgrade the WR with additional playmakers. 

Josh needs to spend the offseason working on fundamentals and improving his craft.
 

Will be a defining offseason for Beane and McDermott. They squandered three seasons in a row now!

[Bangarang]

Sounds like it’s time go D heavy in the draft.  Who’s with me!?

[Dunkirk Donski]

Just now, Bangarang said:

Sounds like it’s time go D heavy in the draft.  Who’s with me!?

All the time.  Every single pick.  needs picks only! 

[harmonkillebrew]

We'll probably spend our top two picks on DE.

 

Need a new #2. Good thing Gabe is a UFA.  Tee Higgins would be nice

[Bangarang]

Just now, Dunkirk Donski said:

All the time.  Every single pick.  needs picks only! 

Round 1: DT

Round 2: CB

Round 3: RB

[HomeskillitMoorman]

If McD's back we're literally Sam Martin'ing next season

[L Ron Burgundy]

It looks to me like we need a major revamp in the secondary.   I love Taron but coverage wise he's been a huge liability this year.  

[Beast]

Von shouldn’t even be on the field. He’s a complete waste. Not his fault but it’s the truth.

[ngbills]

12 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

If McD's back we're literally Sam Martin'ing next season

You mean a 17 yard punt? 

[teef]

tighter pants.

[BuffaloBillyG]

I already know this is going to get me slammed, so let me just say it's NOT the move I would make or would like to see....

 

But a post June 1st TRADE of Stefon Diggs leaves $8.8M of dead cap money...but opens up $19M of cap space. If this year keeps spinning out it really wouldn't shock me to see him want to be moved to a contender if he feels next year will be more of the same (Example: McDermott is brought back). It's a possible scenario that Beane will have to entertain if it comes to it as we would likely be able to get some nice compensation.

[oldmanfan]

Miller should retire.  He is a shell of his former self.  

[finn]

It's a mess, it really is. Difficult to pinpoint when the malaise set in, but the 13 second game may have been this team's Wide Right, messing with their psychology. Like that 1990 team, they bounced back, but their resiliency took a bit hit, so when adversity hit--and they hit like the Plagues of Egypt last year--they did not have the resources to recover. Same with this year. Like a player with a concussion, it has taken less and less trauma to knock them out. The Jets game was a blow, but they came back, off balance but on their feet. But the second blow, the Jags game, was too much. 

 

I agree with Greg Cosell and Chris Sims that the Bills offense is just average, after Allen and Diggs. But worse teams have won the Super Bowl--in fact, I think they WOULD have won the SB after the 2021 season. It's not talent. It's spirit. 

 

What to do? Fire McDermott and rebuild. By the time the new stadium is ready, the next iteration of the Bills, with Allen its leader, will be ready. 

 

 

[vanislebills44]

it depends on the final 7 games..

mcdermott needs to go regardless

 

they should try johnson at safety, he cannot cover 1 on 1 that is for certain

2 new safeties, get some lb'er depth, resign jones n possibly epenesa

miller needs to restructure, draft a center n wr, sign a vet wr, keep joseph 1 more year

id like white here but that cap hit is troiublesome

finally get an offensive minded coach that allen respects and will actually listen 2...

maybe tell josh allen to go with aaron rodgers on a retreat to get his head cleared

put some bonuses in his contract in regards to utilizing checkdowns 

lastly, get a witch doctor to assure the team of yearlong health n prosperity 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

54 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

With Dorsey relieved as the OC, Brady will now audition for the role, but barring this team valuing the ball I don’t anticipate much changing this season. It’s more likely they have a losing record than a winning record when the season concludes. McDermott and Beane will need to select an OC and DC which will be critical hires.  McDermott is and should be on the hot seat. His teams under his leadership are outcoached, unprepared, undisciplined and continue to find new games to lose they have no busy losing.

 

Big changes coming on D!

 

YTD, Von has ONE tackle and an assist. Honestly, I don’t see why he’s even active on game days. Big cap hit if released but his game looks down.

 

SECONDARY: Tre, Poyer and Hyde likely gone. That leaves Rapp, Benford, Douglas, Elam, Jackson and Johnson. Will need to add a safety.

 

LB: Milano, Bernard and D Williams. Need to add LB depth

 

DL: Gotta get DQ and AJE resigned. Ed, Groot and I’d resign L Joseph. Most likely moving on from Settle and Phillips.

 

Punter: Martin probably won’t be back

 

Offensively: Don’t expect Morse to be back. Will need a center. Most importantly will need to upgrade the WR with additional playmakers. 

Josh needs to spend the offseason working on fundamentals and improving his craft.
 

Will be a defining offseason for Beane and McDermott. They squandered three seasons in a row now!

Von: dead cap hit of $32 million if released after this season. $15 million after 2024. Best decision: keep him one more season, see if he can become at least productive again.

 

Honest assessment: on offense, Allen is the only untouchable. Diggs has trade value (not much though, given his contract) if he really wants out and becomes a distraction. He can try another team that underperforms in the playoffs, the Cowboys. Knox has a bad contract given his performance. $7.8 million dead cap hit if released after 2024, so like Von, your best bet is to keep him around and hope he gets healthy. Dawkins is a keeper because of his contract, plus he's still performing at a high level. Nobody else. You'd want to keep Cook because of his rookie contract unless you trade him. Torrence too.

 

On defense: No untouchables. Von, because of the contract, is a keeper for at least another year. The guys still on their first contracts obviously too, like Rousseau. I'd have said Milano pre-injury is close to untouchable, but now he's a keeper because of his contract. Dead cap hit is unmanageable until after 2025, so you keep him and hope he makes it back. Tre has a $10 million dead cap hit after this season, and I'd be really surprised if he comes back with the Bills at least - they'll have to eat that and work the cap in other places. And I agree on the safeties.

 

So this is a rebuild period. Rebuilds can be done really quickly these days after the bad contracts start to be shed and younger players step in. Having a top QB (and yes, I still consider him as one) like Allen is still the key. Everything else is manageable. But you've got to be willing to accept one, and probably two, down seasons. That means wait until 2026, with a new coach, and given their seemingly inseparable bond, probably a new GM. Having Allen makes the Bills an attractive position for both. Might as well get on with it starting on Black Monday 2024.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, Beast said:

Von shouldn’t even be on the field. He’s a complete waste. Not his fault but it’s the truth.

That IMO is why beane needs fired.

 

I hated the deal the second they signed him

 

[BrooklynBills]

To preface: I don't think they will be firing McDermott after this season. 

 

I think they will likely have to go with a younger group on defense based on the salary cap and simply where guys are in their careers.  They have 10 picks in the draft and I think that is something that wasn't an accident and I would expect alot of the picks to be dedicated to supplying that side with youth and cost controlled players. That said, this is a historically good WR draft and I'm expecting that to be a high priority pick.  If they finish 7-10 or 8-9, that would be roughly pick 12-16 which would a great spot to draft or even move up to take one of the top WRs in this class.

 

They are currently 30M over the salary cap for next year. I would expect the following changes:

 

Cuts/retirements: Mitch Morse, Tre White, Jordan Poyer, Deonte Harty, Siran Neal, Nyheim Hines, Rasul Douglas

Combined with restructures to: Ed Oliver, Connor McGovern, Tyler Bass

Gets us to roughly 20M in cap space.

 

Guys who won't be released or traded before June 1 because they would cost more to cut/trade than to keep on the team: Dawson Knox, Stefon Diggs, Von Miller, Kaiir Elam

 

They could also do things like extend Taron Johnson to reduce his cap hit (or cut him) which would free up more space.

 

So I would predict roughly 24M-27M in cap space heading into the offseason with 10 picks in the draft.  And thats without touching Allen's contract which I would hope they hold off on for now. I think thats plenty of cap space and picks to make some roster changes in the offseason and, if I'm being honest, I don't think they are losing much in the way of cuts as White hasn't been on the field consistently in 3 years, Poyer has aged, Hyde has aged (although I'd entertain him back on a modest contract), Douglas just got here (I'd also consider giving a new contract that lowers his cap #).

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Chad Kelly.  Has a 3 year contract paying $1.865 million Cdn. ($71,427.18 US).  Make him an offer.  The Kelly no huddle and play calling genes are in his DNA.

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[ChrisWatson#21]

Bring back the punt GOD😁

[Rigotz]

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

Round 1: DT

Round 2: CB

Round 3: RB

 

Love this, but I'm going to need the DT to be undersized.

 

The Corner needs to only have Man Coverage skills.

 

At Running Back, I'd like for him to be mediocre with us, but have success elsewhere. That would be what we need.

[TFBillsfan]

I could certainly see the Bills drafting the punter from Iowa. (Tory Taylor)

 

Outside of Morse who will likely retire, the OL is much better.  RB will just be Cook remaining. 
 

IMO, WR, S, C are big positions of need. Depth at DE, DT, LB

 

The coaching staff gets really intriguing. Does McDermott get fired. No way they run it back with him as the DC. Who are potential DC  candidates? Who are potential candidates for the OC? Does McDermott let the coordinators put their own stamp on things?

 

If McDermott is back he needs to be mentoring with proven successful head coaches. The most frustrating thing is we are seeing ZERO growth or accountability from him.  That’s extremely troubling for anyone in a leadership position!

[BrooklynBills]

7 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

I could certainly see the Bills drafting the punter from Iowa. (Tory Taylor)

 

Outside of Morse who will likely retire, the OL is much better.  RB will just be Cook remaining. 
 

IMO, WR, S, C are big positions of need. Depth at DE, DT, LB

 

The coaching staff gets really intriguing. Does McDermott get fired. No way they run it back with him as the DC. Who are potential DC  candidates? Who are potential candidates for the OC? Does McDermott let the coordinators put their own stamp on things?

 

If McDermott is back he needs to be mentoring with proven successful head coaches. The most frustrating thing is we are seeing ZERO growth or accountability from him.  That’s extremely troubling for anyone in a leadership position!

 

They aren't going to bring in another DC to run a different system. They will likely promote from within and I would expect Babich to be the guy. The defensive side has alot of veteran coaching support on staff already.

 

I'm just not seeing a full coaching staff overhaul at all after this year.  Maybe that is a year or two away.

[RyanC883]

also need to bring back FLoyd on DL.  

13 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

I could certainly see the Bills drafting the punter from Iowa. (Tory Taylor)

 

Outside of Morse who will likely retire, the OL is much better.  RB will just be Cook remaining. 
 

IMO, WR, S, C are big positions of need. Depth at DE, DT, LB

 

The coaching staff gets really intriguing. Does McDermott get fired. No way they run it back with him as the DC. Who are potential DC  candidates? Who are potential candidates for the OC? Does McDermott let the coordinators put their own stamp on things?

 

If McDermott is back he needs to be mentoring with proven successful head coaches. The most frustrating thing is we are seeing ZERO growth or accountability from him.  That’s extremely troubling for anyone in a leadership position!

 

hopefully McD is gone.  If we bring in an offensive minded OC (Johnson from Det) he may keep Brady as OC perhaps, or bring someone from Det.  I'd like to see Babbich as DC, barring that, there is likely another McD out there (bad head coach, good DC) we could poach.  

 

If McD stays, he MUST relinquish DC responsibilities.  

[wppete]

Try and trade Von Miller, first priority. And then extend Leonard Floyd. 

[TheCockSportif]

1 hour ago, teef said:

tighter pants.

Aye, the hot pants

1 minute ago, wppete said:

Try and trade Von Miller, first priority. And then extend Leonard Floyd. 

Given what Miller's put on film, who would trade for him?  I wish that the Bills could unload him but the same time I am dubious.

[RedandBlue]

I’ve been wondering about this and I apologize if this was beat to death in another thread, has there been any talk of Elam at safety?

[Nextmanup]

IT's a great time to get rid of McDermott, too, for this reason.  We are in for a period of upheaval no matter what.  Why not kill 2 birds with one stone and get it all done now, with the new guy making these decisions so he doesn't have to just reverse them next year when McD gets fired then.

 

 

[jlgarsh]

3 hours ago, Bangarang said:

Sounds like it’s time go D heavy in the draft.  Who’s with me!?

Sean, is that you?

[Niagara Dude]

1 hour ago, TFBillsfan said:

I could certainly see the Bills drafting the punter from Iowa. (Tory Taylor)

 

Outside of Morse who will likely retire, the OL is much better.  RB will just be Cook remaining. 
 

IMO, WR, S, C are big positions of need. Depth at DE, DT, LB

 

The coaching staff gets really intriguing. Does McDermott get fired. No way they run it back with him as the DC. Who are potential DC  candidates? Who are potential candidates for the OC? Does McDermott let the coordinators put their own stamp on things?

 

If McDermott is back he needs to be mentoring with proven successful head coaches. The most frustrating thing is we are seeing ZERO growth or accountability from him.  That’s extremely troubling for anyone in a leadership position!

I would resign Matt Ariza,  current punter is a buddy of Miller's and it's fine to have him punting 1-2 times a game because offence is so explosive but now with offence struggling punting and field position are so important.

[LabattBlue]

57 minutes ago, wppete said:

Try and trade Von Miller, first priority. And then extend Leonard Floyd. 

C’mon man!!!  
 

You think you are playing a video game? Miller is 100% untradeable both because of his contract and his decline in play. 

Edited November 14, 2023 by LabattBlue

[jlgarsh]

Fire McDermott at the bye week if they don't win the next 2. 

[dma0034]

For better or worst the Bills have Von Miller next year. I really do think it's him recovering from an ACL tear versus decline with age so I think next year he'll be decent.

 

Gabe gone. Try and trade Knox. The whole draft needs to focus on: #2 WR and O-Line. 

 

I would like if McDermott was let go and the Bills get a new HC. I like Johnson a lot but that OC in Houston is looking pretty impressive

[Niagara Dude]

Just now, jlgarsh said:

Fire McDermott at the bye week if they don't win the next 2. 

I think it's game on for McDermott getting fired,  first he fires his buddy Dorsey and just now in his presser he went into detail about Allen and all of his turnovers killing the team.  Those are private conversations that he is getting out in public just in case he gets fired after the season.

 

For those thinking McDermott gets job for life for getting the Bills back on track. Just remember the Eagles fired Doug Peterson only 3 seasons after he won them a Super Bowl. McDermott already used his full Mulligan after 13 secs and contract extension means nothing because McDermott is young and will find another HC job,  meaning Bills would only pay salary difference.

 

I personally think if the Bills finish less then 5-2 in their final 7 games he is gone,  all contenders/good teams have dud games during a long season.  10 games into the season we have lost to the Jags/Jets/Pats and now the Broncos.  That can't happen and when you first replace your defensive cordinator with yourself and then fire offensive cordinator the target now goes on his head next.

 

5-2 and no less,  so that means beating either the Chiefs of Eagles on road and holding serve at home against Jets/Cowboys/Pats and then take one of either Chargers/Dolphins.

 

I think he needs to split KC/Eagles games because those two are top contenders

[billsfan714]

2 hours ago, BrooklynBills said:

To preface: I don't think they will be firing McDermott after this season. 

 

I think they will likely have to go with a younger group on defense based on the salary cap and simply where guys are in their careers.  They have 10 picks in the draft and I think that is something that wasn't an accident and I would expect alot of the picks to be dedicated to supplying that side with youth and cost controlled players. That said, this is a historically good WR draft and I'm expecting that to be a high priority pick.  If they finish 7-10 or 8-9, that would be roughly pick 12-16 which would a great spot to draft or even move up to take one of the top WRs in this class.

 

They are currently 30M over the salary cap for next year. I would expect the following changes:

 

Cuts/retirements: Mitch Morse, Tre White, Jordan Poyer, Deonte Harty, Siran Neal, Nyheim Hines, Rasul Douglas

Combined with restructures to: Ed Oliver, Connor McGovern, Tyler Bass

Gets us to roughly 20M in cap space.

 

Guys who won't be released or traded before June 1 because they would cost more to cut/trade than to keep on the team: Dawson Knox, Stefon Diggs, Von Miller, Kaiir Elam

 

They could also do things like extend Taron Johnson to reduce his cap hit (or cut him) which would free up more space.

 

So I would predict roughly 24M-27M in cap space heading into the offseason with 10 picks in the draft.  And thats without touching Allen's contract which I would hope they hold off on for now. I think thats plenty of cap space and picks to make some roster changes in the offseason and, if I'm being honest, I don't think they are losing much in the way of cuts as White hasn't been on the field consistently in 3 years, Poyer has aged, Hyde has aged (although I'd entertain him back on a modest contract), Douglas just got here (I'd also consider giving a new contract that lowers his cap #).

We are 42 million over the cap.  In your cuts/retirements you have 4 guys from the secondary,  we currently have 3 DL under contract,  we need to sign/draft/re-sign 6 guys there.  If you lost Harty which i would do tomorrow and lost Gabe theres 2 WRs spots to fill.  A center spot.  Guess Beane is going to find a bunch of great guys in rounds 5-7 and sign FAs in the 1-2 million range, good luck with that.

[wppete]

50 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

C’mon man!!!  
 

You think you are playing a video game? Miller is 100% untradeable both because of his contract and his decline in play. 

You never know, some desperate team with  huge cap money to spend that needs leadership and some pass rush can be stupid enough to take on that contract. Even if it’s for a 7th round pick 🤷‍♂️. We were dumb enough to sign him. 

[frostbitmic]

13 minutes ago, wppete said:

You never know, some desperate team with  huge cap money to spend that needs leadership and some pass rush can be stupid enough to take on that contract. Even if it’s for a 7th round pick 🤷‍♂️. We were dumb enough to sign him. 

Maybe Beane could give someone a 5th to take Von and his contract.

[ganesh]

4 hours ago, Bangarang said:

Sounds like it’s time go D heavy in the draft.  Who’s with me!?

sounds very familiar !!!!

[wppete]

3 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Maybe Beane could give someone a 5th to take Von and his contract.

 

would be amazing. I doubt it though. 

[flmike]

5 hours ago, Bangarang said:

Round 1: DT

Round 2: CB

Round 3: RB

Round 1 : LB

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

4 hours ago, Rigotz said:

 

Love this, but I'm going to need the DT to be undersized.

 

The Corner needs to only have Man Coverage skills.

 

At Running Back, I'd like for him to be mediocre with us, but have success elsewhere. That would be what we need.

The corner needs to be on the third team in training camp until he “earns” it.