Do we win if the game was 5 quarters?

[Mikie2times]

We outscored the Bengals 11-10 after the 1st quarter. Defense found it's footing and offense seemed to do so in the 4th quarter. 

 

Honest question. I think it's likely. If nothing else, we would trade some blows. 

 

 

[Success]

We probably win if not for Kincaid's fumble (which I don't blame him for - great play by the defender)

 

[MPL]

Allen is 0-5 in Overtime, so no. 

[Einstein]

1 minute ago, Success said:

We probably win if not for Kincaid's fumble (which I don't blame him for - great play by the defender)

I've heard people say this, but where is the evidence?

Say we score a TD on the Kincaid fumble drive. Then we score a TD the next drive (like we did). 

Let's say we even went for and got the  2 point conversion, like we did.

 

It's now 25-24 Bills.

Bengals get the ball and literally drove 60 yards in a minute and a half. They are a few yards away from field goal range for a game winning field goal when they kneeled the game out.

How do we win this?

[Success]

Just now, Einstein said:

I've heard people say this, but where is the evidence?

Say we score a TD on the Kincaid fumble drive. Then we score a TD the next drive (like we did). 

Let's say we even went for and got the  2 point conversion, like we did.

 

It's now 25-24 Bills.

Bengals get the ball and literally drove 60 yards in a minute and a half. They are a few yards away from field goal range for a game winning field goal when they kneeled the game out.

How do we win this?

 

That's fair. And I hate it when opposing fans do that.

 

But, if Kincaid doesn't fumble, it's at least a 50/50 kind of game.  Reading the discussion here, it feels like the Bills got blown out.  And I felt that way too - but I realize that's just because of the 1st half. We found some footing in the 2nd half and came back well in that game.  I don't think there was a point where we outplayed Cincy, but the 2nd half was more what I expected.  2 pretty evenly matched teams.

 

[Simon]

Maybe. I said in the game thread we were wearing them down with physical play and I still think that was the case.

But losing another couple starters in the worst spots possible was going to make it difficult to for them to shorten Bengals possessions.

With Bernard and Benford, yeah, we probably win that game if it's 15 minutes longer.

With Bernard and Benford, we maybe could have even stolen it in regulation. 🤷‍♂️

[Punch]

[Low Positive]

2 minutes ago, Success said:

 

That's fair. And I hate it when opposing fans do that.

 

But, if Kincaid doesn't fumble, it's at least a 50/50 kind of game.  Reading the discussion here, it feels like the Bills got blown out.  And I felt that way too - but I realize that's just because of the 1st half. We found some footing in the 2nd half and came back well in that game.  I don't think there was a point where we outplayed Cincy, but the 2nd half was more what I expected.  2 pretty evenly matched teams.

 

I know, but it feels like the Bills got blown out. If we had lost a shootout, it would be one thing. But the continued offensive ineptitude is so deflating as a fan. This team is exhausting to watch, and I think that a lot of the posts on here today reflect that.

[Einstein]

3 minutes ago, Success said:

 

That's fair. And I hate it when opposing fans do that.

Now I think it is fair that we win the game with an extra quarter. The Bengals defense was really slogging at the end. I just dont think the fumble would have changed much, based on how our defense reacted when we needed that final stop.

I think if we are asking a good "what if" question, it would be, what if we adjusted to playing man-press very early. Preferably before the game started, since we have played Burrow 1.25 times in the last 10 months. It was so incredibly obvious that he would pick apart the zone, and that didn't stop until we moved to mostly man, but by that point we were already in a deep hole. 
 

[SCBills]

It did seem like the offense found some footing in the 4th quarter.  

 

Not sure if the Bengals offense plays any differently while not protecting a two score lead though.  As soon as we cut it to 6, they went aggressive again and moved right down the field. 

[Process]

So to win games we need

 

No sun, no rain, no wind, no snow, no travel, and for games to be five quarters

 

We may be in trouble 

[Warcodered]

Do we actually go into the up tempo in the 4th with a 5th quarter?

[Mikie2times]

7 minutes ago, Process said:

So to win games we need

 

No sun, no rain, no wind, no snow, no travel, and for games to be five quarters

 

We may be in trouble 

 

 

15 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

Woulda, coulda, shoulda, iffa.

 

Too much of that this season.

 

Do you think we would have won or not? Plenty of threads to air complaints in today. This is a simple question. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Bengals are just a bad match up for Bills. 
 

our o line has troubles with their d line. Their o line handles our o line. 
 

they have more playmakers and get better qb decisions. their coverage forced errors and confusion in our passing games.

 

Bills Can’t run the ball. they forced turnovers.

 

it’s not one thing it’s everything. 

 

played out In similar fashion to playoff loss. 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[US Egg]

27 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Do you think we would have won or not? Plenty of threads to air complaints in today. This is a simple question. 

Sorry for my woulda, coulda, shoulda, iffa post in your thread. 😗

 

If the Bills could of tied it to get to OT, it would of  given them a 50/50 chance to win, imo.

 

Unfortunately, most games only need 4 quarters to be decided.   

Edited November 6, 2023 by I am the egg man

[Freddie's Dead]

No, refs would have continued to screw us using extra crunchy peanut butter with glass shards for lube.

[Billl]

The live odds had Buffalo with a 22% chance prior to the fumble and 10.4% after. 

[Mikie2times]

1 minute ago, Billl said:

The live odds had Buffalo with a 22% chance prior to the fumble and 10.4% after. 

Sounds about right

[JohnBonhamRocks]

What if we played on a triangle field with 5 footballs and to tackle you have to pin the ballcarrier down for 7 seconds and then yell Yahtzee! 
 

Seriously, I will echo the idea that the Kincaid fumble was the single biggest reason we lost. We score a TD on that drive and who knows what happens.

[somnus00]

Is my aunt my uncle if she has a penis? Sure. But until that happens, this question doesn't matter.

 

The Bills have 4 quarters to win the game. Just like every other team.

[dorquemada]

The Bengals let their foot off the gas in the 2nd half.  I bet they're complaining about that on whatever their fan forum is.  Again, they physically dominated the Bills to start the game, which is becoming a theme.  It's actually becoming a tiresome act with them - oh, it's late in the 4th quarter, let's turn it on!   It's getting hard to take them seriously when they just bring the same undisciplined soft nonsense game after game.  Good enough to beat the bottom feeders, nowhere near good enough to compete with winning teams.

 

They'll be running for the bus by halftime next week and we can all get our sundays back.  I'm looking forward to next season after we dump a bunch of overpaid underperforming vets and let Davis walk

[MPT]

We might have won all of our games this year (except maybe Week 1) if they were 5 quarters. The problem is that we're going into these games completely unprepared for the opponent. First halves, and especially first drives, have been an absolute disaster on both sides of the ball. Credit to the coaches for always making good adjustments during the game, butb it's more of a discredit to them for putting us in deep holes we can't climb out of.

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, Success said:

We probably win if not for Kincaid's fumble (which I don't blame him for - great play by the defender)

 

That was a killer. The Bills were in scoring position.

[Livinginthepast]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

I've heard people say this, but where is the evidence?

Say we score a TD on the Kincaid fumble drive. Then we score a TD the next drive (like we did). 

Let's say we even went for and got the  2 point conversion, like we did.

 

It's now 25-24 Bills.

Bengals get the ball and literally drove 60 yards in a minute and a half. They are a few yards away from field goal range for a game winning field goal when they kneeled the game out.

How do we win this?

This is true. We were never forcing any turnover last night and because our Dbs were so far off the ball on pass coverage, we weren't ever going to force an INT.  The Bengals were never made to feel uncomfortable because they were in the lead for most of the game so there was no sense of panic or urgency to their game. I dont like Burrow but I have to admit, his approach of being calm and methodical dissected us last night. Having pretty good pass protection also helped. It seemed to me that the Bengals line is really good at pushing the blitz to one side so Burrow could escape. 

[Mark Vader]

45 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

 

 

Do you think we would have won or not? Plenty of threads to air complaints in today. This is a simple question. 

Are you asking if the Bills would've won if the NFL added a 5th "quarter" to all games, or are you asking if the Bills would've won had the game gone into overtime?

[Mikie2times]

4 minutes ago, MPT said:

We might have won all of our games this year (except maybe Week 1) if they were 5 quarters. The problem is that we're going into these games completely unprepared for the opponent. First halves, and especially first drives, have been an absolute disaster on both sides of the ball. Credit to the coaches for always making good adjustments during the game, butb it's more of a discredit to them for putting us in deep holes we can't climb out of.

This is probably my favorite response in this thread. Are we that good at in game adjustments or are we that bad at pre game preparation?  

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

More time for McD to get out coached 

[Mark Vader]

14 minutes ago, somnus00 said:

Is my aunt my uncle if she has a penis? Sure. But until that happens, this question doesn't matter.

 

The Bills have 4 quarters to win the game. Just like every other team.

"If a guy dates a girl, who used to be a guy, but isn't anymore. What makes the guy, who dates the girl, who used to be a guy?"

                                                                                                                                       Les Nessman, told through by Herbert R. Tarlek

Edited November 6, 2023 by Mark Vader

[Mikie2times]

1 minute ago, Mark Vader said:

Are you asking if the Bills would've won if the NFL added a 5th "quarter" to all games, or are you asking if the Bills would've won had the game gone into overtime?

It was a hypothetical. If we had 5 quarters. 

[Mark Vader]

1 minute ago, Mikie2times said:

It was a hypothetical. If we had 5 quarters. 

Then the answer is, maybe.

[BearNorth]

I also think that early [b/s] roughing call on Settle meant that our pass rushers were wary - if that was called, could you even touch the QB without a flag. That call changed the entire script of the game IMHO.

[Mark Vader]

5 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

I also think that early [b/s] roughing call on Settle meant that our pass rushers were wary - if that was called, could you even touch the QB without a flag. That call changed the entire script of the game IMHO.

That was the biggest Tom Brady penalty call I have ever seen!

It's roughing the passer when the QB still has the ball in his hands?!?!?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

17 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Then the answer is, maybe.

What if the QB is 'Danny Dimes'?

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Soon, little, uh...Pegula here won't be able to get a nickel for his coaching staff. 🤨

Edited November 6, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[ALLinALLEN]

Sure, if that makes anyone feel better.

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, Success said:

We probably win if not for Kincaid's fumble (which I don't blame him for - great play by the defender)

 

Burrow marches down for a game-winning FG, instead of running out the clock

[dorquemada]

3 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Burrow marches down for a game-winning FG, instead of running out the clock

 

While Buffalo CBs play at least 15 yards off the WRs and our safeties take naps

[Mark Vader]

7 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

What if the QB is 'Danny Dimes'?

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Soon, little, uh...Pegula here won't be able to get a nickel for his coaching staff. 🤨

Who?

[frostbitmic]

1 hour ago, Mikie2times said:

We outscored the Bengals 11-10 after the 1st quarter. Defense found it's footing and offense seemed to do so in the 4th quarter. 

 

Honest question. I think it's likely. If nothing else, we would trade some blows. 

 

 

Why can't this team play for 4 quarters as it is ? ... The Defense let them stroll into the end zone the first two times they had the ball, we walked right on down and put up a TD, then the Offense went into their typical 2nd and 3rd Quarter funk. 3 points in two Quarters with Josh Allen as QB is criminal.

 

If there were a 5th quarter, they wouldn't wake up until then anyway. Of course maybe it's McDermott's game plan to put other teams to sleep, it was working for me.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

41 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Who?

Nickname of NYG QB.  Known for the excessively generous contract the Giants blessed him with.

*
I was picking up on the terms used to describe coinage.  Penny for your thoughts? 🤔

[Your Brown Eye]

Do we win that game if Joe Burrow is forced to throw left-handed...something to ponder.