MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Serious question: Why does Buffalo carry any running backs on roster? Since Ken Dorsey has zero intention of establishing a running game, wouldn't it be better to fill those spots with valuable depth in other positions like DB or OL? I'm glad Buffalo didn't trade for Derick Henry since they wouldn't give him the ball anyway. Dorsey wants to throw all the time out of shotgun. So why not just eliminate the position from the team? 3 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Agreed that we should put Harty in at RB and have him run routes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said: Serious question: Why does Buffalo carry any running backs on roster? Since Ken Dorsey has zero intention of establishing a running game, wouldn't it be better to fill those spots with valuable depth in other positions like DB or OL? I'm glad Buffalo didn't trade for Derick Henry since they wouldn't give him the ball anyway. Dorsey wants to throw all the time out of shotgun. So why not just eliminate the position from the team? But they do run. When it's 3rd and goal from the 4 and Allen is in the shotgun. They run at the most inopportune times that they possibly can. Dorsey is backwards AF. 1 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 It's kinda hard establishing a running game when your HC refuses to draft better olineman for now 6 years. McDumbass had every opportunity to build a dominant offense around Josh, but chose to go heavy failed defensive players. Brilliant 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 What’s even more confusing is carrying a FB. Who I believe has had 3 offensive snaps all season long. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) Dorsey don't like RBs. Bean does Edited November 6, 2023 by Coldfronts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I agree with the waiving... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Honestly, other than Josh running the ball, I don't want the bills to hand the ball off, ever 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 It’s really baffling to me. On 3rd and short situations we still aren’t lining up and playing power football. Makes zero sense. The signing of Fournette confuses me because where does he fit?? We not even using Murray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 A coaching belief that a RB might fumble the ball? 🤔 As opposed to a coaching belief that it's better to throw the ball, despite all the variables that come into play with an untended ball travelling through space. 🤔🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 We went heavy jumbo in the first half in 2nd and 2, cook took the ball quickly (no delay) to the left side and converted easily and honestly had a shot at gainer if he broke another tackle. Our runs after that were delays vs zone so the entire d had their eyes on the ball. Our problem is we are a stupid team 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 The more things change...Josh Allen was the Buffalo Bills leading rusher in this game. 8 carries for 44 yards and a TD James Cook 6 carries for 20 yards a 3.3 YPC AVG. Murray 2 carries for 4 yards, a 2.0 YPC AVG. That first Buffalo drive game me hope that we might see an explosive game...until the second drive... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Hard to run the ball when you're playing from behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBillsFan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 6 hours ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said: Serious question: Why does Buffalo carry any running backs on roster? Since Ken Dorsey has zero intention of establishing a running game, wouldn't it be better to fill those spots with valuable depth in other positions like DB or OL? I'm glad Buffalo didn't trade for Derick Henry since they wouldn't give him the ball anyway. Dorsey wants to throw all the time out of shotgun. So why not just eliminate the position from the team? To be fair, JA rpo and choosing pass is a big portion of it, but it is within Dorsey's scheme. So agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 A better question is why doesn’t Buffalo carry a starter-quality running back on their roster? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 SHould have played Fournette. All I saw last night was Cook getting quickly swallowed up by Cincy defenders. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: SHould have played Fournette. All I saw last night was Cook getting quickly swallowed up by Cincy defenders. That's more of an indictment on the offensive line though. We always have problems with Cincy's size and strength on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Nothing we can do as Buffalo Bills fans... except piss, B word, and moan which we seem to do a lot of after every loss. I still can't believe that this year's team lost to the NE Patriots, manhandled by the Jags and almost beaten by the NY Giants and Bucs. What gets me is that it is the offense that's fallen on its face game after game. The defense did allow the Patriots to put up 29 points though. What's going on with the offense? #5 overall offense in the NFL and yet they can't get out of their own way at times If only this team could run the ball like they did against the Raiders, Commanders, and Dolphins. Rushing, 35 for 183 2 TDs against the Raiders Rushing, 33 for 163 2 TDs against the Commanders Rushing 29 for 104 2 TDs against the Dolphins. Clearly, when Josh Allen is under center and they have a commitment to run the ball they seem to dominate on offense. The Jags did go with an 8 man box to stop the run. Seems unbelievable to me that Buffalo OC Ken Dorsey couldn't figure out a way to counter that or get the run game working in other games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 8 hours ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said: Serious question: Why does Buffalo carry any running backs on roster? Since Ken Dorsey has zero intention of establishing a running game, wouldn't it be better to fill those spots with valuable depth in other positions like DB or OL? I'm glad Buffalo didn't trade for Derick Henry since they wouldn't give him the ball anyway. Dorsey wants to throw all the time out of shotgun. So why not just eliminate the position from the team? Dorsey's seemingly trying to vicariously relive his NCAA glory days via Allen in the NFL where he failed. I've thrown that possibility up in the past and it was not meant as a joke. I still can't figure out why he's even qualified to be an OC, other than checking the box for not being a threat to replace McD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) Of all the things to complain about, you choose this? Some of you just want attention so badly that you’ll say any ridiculous thing to do it. Did people really finish watching last night’s game and think our problem was we didn’t run the ball more? Edited November 6, 2023 by Bangarang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Makes me laugh that people actually thought James Cook would be the bell cow RB for this club. He's pretty much a change of pace slippery RB and screen check down player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Airseven said: A better question is why doesn’t Buffalo carry a starter-quality running back on their roster? Ask the posters who are dead set against drafting a RB early. Unfortunately, Beane has let the best RBs go by in the draft because he has the same philosophy. Meanwhile the top teams in the league have a running game that makes them multidimensional while all Josh has is Diggs, no RB he can count on & bunch of #3 or #4 WRs trying to fill the #2  WR spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 its funny. We draft Cook, add new old guys in Latavius Murray & Damien Harris, after previously trying this with Matt Breida & Nyheim Hines, & now its Fournette who's the next to join the party. And thats after spending 3rd rd picks in 2019 & 2020 on Singletary & Moss who are no longer on the team. And we're not gonna use any of them! Serious question but what are we looking for where none of these guys are the answer? Can one deduce from this that its not the RB thats the issue but perhaps the scheme or play designs or oline instead? How many rb's do we need to go thru before we realize its not the rb thats the issue? Whats the point of acquiring Fournette or any of these guys if we dont intend on using them? These retread rb moves are approaching Carolina Panthers level of absurdity. If we were winning it wouldnt be such an issue but in light of our reality it doesnt seem like our management has any clue on what to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Offseason failure year after year. We try random rb's,. random wr's, random OL. So many on this board always want to buy the hype - our RB is the best ever, nevermind Cook has never been an every down back at any level, Murray, Fourette and whoever are just retreads that could be sitting on a couch if not on the Bills. Our WR's are the same, Harty had a year 5 years ago almost as good as McK average year and its a huge upgrade? Sherfield is an upgrade? Our rookie TE catches a 2 yard dump off 5x a game and its elite and unstoppable? Maybe the coaches actually buy this nonsense too and then we spend our resources on a ton of defensive players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Steptide said: Honestly, other than Josh running the ball, I don't want the bills to hand the ball off, ever But then you see things like last night when the passing game sputters. Everyone hates Collinswoth, but he absolutely nailed it when he said if you mix in the run and pass, and spread it around when you do pass, the offense will work. Bills did this in the late second half, and it did work. Team opened the game with like 13 passes and 3 runs, 2 straight runs after the INT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) I agree 100% but the even bigger question is why do we have a FULLBACK on our roster??? Reggie "2.3 million a year to do nothing" Gilliam. 4 hours ago, zow2 said: Makes me laugh that people actually thought James Cook would be the bell cow RB for this club. He's pretty much a change of pace slippery RB and screen check down player. I really thought Harris was going to be the bell cow, but of course they hardly used him before he was injured. Edited November 6, 2023 by Nuncha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 RB is Josh QB is Josh Offensive game plan is Josh Defensive game play is load up on as much talent as we can because we're not going to put much effort into the offense because our offense is Josh What happens if the game plan doesn't work? .....Josh What happens if the defense has a bad day?......Josh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 6 hours ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: SHould have played Fournette. All I saw last night was Cook getting quickly swallowed up by Cincy defenders. Nobody can run behind this o-line. They seriously suck at run blocking 98.5% of the time. It looks like they have no idea what to do when a run play is called. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 18 hours ago, Airseven said: A better question is why doesn’t Buffalo carry a starter-quality running back on their roster? It wouldn't matter. Bills could have Marshawn Lynch, Derrick Henry, and Jim Brown on the roster. Dorsey won't run the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Tanner Hudson, Drew Sample and Irv Smith Jr. all had pretty decent games and had a significant chunk of their stats for the 8 games this year against us. Need to get everyone involved instead of the usual suspects. Got to try something else sometimes which is why they carry so many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14774 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 18 hours ago, Nuncha said: Nobody can run behind this o-line. They seriously suck at run blocking 98.5% of the time. It looks like they have no idea what to do when a run play is called. Maybe it's because they are utterly shocked that a run play was called, and are confused. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/6/2023 at 1:39 AM, MarkKelso'sHelmet said: Since Ken Dorsey has zero intention of establishing a running game The run game was not working Sunday night. Dorsey could have ran 50 times and it was not going to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Zack Moss is currently 2nd in the NFL in rushing. Maybe it isn't our RBs that are the problem, its the coaches using them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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