boyst Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 In an AJE thread it occured to me that very few if anyplayers have left Buffalo in the McDermott era to succeed. I don't pay as much attention as I used to and old age is making me foggy so help me out: Who has left Buffalo in the last 6 years and succeeded? [Could be had a good year, could still be in the league, definition is objective] Two that come to mind are Hughes and Teller who definitely showed they had value after leaving. McKenzie, Singletary, Hodgins, Feleciano are active on rosters and have contributed but not gangbusters. Edmunds, Lawson, Trubisky... Who else? I really can't think of any defenders than Hughes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Zack Moss 6 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Uh, Wyatt Teller? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) Wyatt Teller for sure Ray-Ray McCloud has carved out a nice niche in San Fran Edited October 10, 2023 by Roundybout 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 With our luck Elam will probably become a first team all pro on KC within 2 years of being cut. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Teller. Moss. Harrison Phillips is doing pretty well Levi Wallace on par, Van roten has a starting guard job. Bills haven’t really lost a ton of key guys, so it’s hard to say. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Zay Jones in Jacksonville. Quinton Spain had a decent year in Cincinnati after he left. Honestly, the Bills have not really had to move on from any significant players yet. Tremaine Edmunds is pretty much the first one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Just now, MJS said: Zay Jones in Jacksonville. Quinton Spain had a decent year in Cincinnati after he left. Honestly, the Bills have not really had to move on from any significant players yet. Tremaine Edmunds is pretty much the first one. Zay Jones, good call. Forgot about him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, boyst said: In an AJE thread it occured to me that very few if anyplayers have left Buffalo in the McDermott era to succeed. I don't pay as much attention as I used to and old age is making me foggy so help me out: Who has left Buffalo in the last 6 years and succeeded? [Could be had a good year, could still be in the league, definition is objective] Two that come to mind are Hughes and Teller who definitely showed they had value after leaving. McKenzie, Singletary, Hodgins, Feleciano are active on rosters and have contributed but not gangbusters. Edmunds, Lawson, Trubisky... Who else? I really can't think of any defenders than Hughes. Not sure I'd count Hughes as he was more a numbers thing and is at the tail end of his career. Was surprised to see he had 9 sacks last season. I think this is true of most FA. If the player was really good, the team would have re-signed him. Wasn't Teller traded too? That's a little different as the Bills didn't just let him go, they got something back and didn't that pick get used to draft Bass? As Marv Levy once said, Most free agents hurt the team they leave, more than they help the team they go to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Lost said: Zack Moss Yeah, just saw him myself coincidentally. He's 3rd in the league in Rushing Yards, tied for 10th in Rushing TDs, 3rd in Rushing 1st-Downs, 9th among RBs for YPC, and perhaps most importantly 3rd in Carries. Goes to show you what happens if you give a RB 20 carries a game instead of three RBs 4, 5, or 6 apiece in our idiotic keep players fresh garbage MO. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Jack O’Nicklaus? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Yeah, just saw him myself coincidentally. He's 3rd in the league in Rushing Yards, tied for 10th in Rushing TDs, 3rd in Rushing 1st-Downs, 9th among RBs for YPC, and perhaps most importantly 3rd in Carries. Goes to show you what happens if you give a RB 20 carries a game instead of three RBs 4, 5, or 6 apiece in our idiotic keep players fresh garbage MO. Our OC only knows how to dial up shotgun draw for no gain on 1st and 2nd so RB or number of carries makes little difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Well, a few that are from the early McD days carved out long NFL careers to differing success. Bobby Trees Ronald Darby Sammy Watkins Feliciano started last year for the Giants and has seen action for SF this year. Heck you could throw a lot of guys on the Giants Daboll brought with him if "still in the league" is a qualifier. Matt Breida. Hodgins ect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Bojorquez is still in the league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) Cordy Glenn Maybe Araiza, if he ever returns? Davis Webb (success perhaps as a coach?) Richie Incognito?? Edited October 10, 2023 by chongli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lost said: Our OC only knows how to dial up shotgun draw for no gain on 1st and 2nd so RB or number of carries makes little difference. And our head coach is apparently too disconnected from anything offensively speaking that he cannot assist. Edited October 10, 2023 by PBF81 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Harrison Phillips kind of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Zay Jones Wyatt Teller Zach Moss Richie Incognito i just had this conversation With someone today about this. There’s more and I can’t remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Well, a few that are from the early McD days carved out long NFL careers to differing success. Bobby Trees Ronald Darby Sammy Watkins Feliciano started last year for the Giants and has seen action for SF this year. Heck you could throw a lot of guys on the Giants Daboll brought with him if "still in the league" is a qualifier. Matt Breida. Hodgins ect. Bobby trees never played for Micky Ds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Not sure I'd count Hughes as he was more a numbers thing and is at the tail end of his career. Was surprised to see he had 9 sacks last season. I think this is true of most FA. If the player was really good, the team would have re-signed him. Wasn't Teller traded too? That's a little different as the Bills didn't just let him go, they got something back and didn't that pick get used to draft Bass? As Marv Levy once said, Most free agents hurt the team they leave, more than they help the team they go to. You don't count 9 sacks as being good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Charles Romes said: Jack O’Nicklaus? With or without gloves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 was looking for available CB's. Found Keyvon Seymore and Ron Darby on the Ravens roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, boyst said: was looking for available CB's. Found Keyvon Seymore and Ron Darby on the Ravens roster. Keyvon Seymore? Huh. There’s a name I haven’t thought of in a while. looks like Rachad Wildgoose is out of the league. I remember there was a fuss when he got poached by the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Keyvon Seymore? Huh. There’s a name I haven’t thought of in a while. looks like Rachad Wildgoose is out of the league. I remember there was a fuss when he got poached by the Jets. who was the rb we had about the same time everyone thought was going to be special? antonio williams Edited October 10, 2023 by boyst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, boyst said: who was the rb we had about the same time everyone thought was going to be special? antonio williams Oh yeah, the next game-changing running back. Looks like he’s an FA too. I remember there was another running back who we drafted after Karlos Williams left the league, I think he was a Williams too, maybe played for Arkansas? Can’t remember his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Ray Ray and Feliciano could wind up with a ring in SF this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Oh yeah, the next game-changing running back. Looks like he’s an FA too. I remember there was another running back who we drafted after Karlos Williams left the league, I think he was a Williams too, maybe played for Arkansas? Can’t remember his name. Dude was good but couldn’t put down a chicken wing. That was his problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 8 hours ago, PBF81 said: And our head coach is apparently too disconnected from anything offensively speaking that he cannot assist. You’re one angry fellow. Are you ok? I get the feeling someone pisses in your cereal every morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Logan Thomas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 45 minutes ago, Dopey said: You’re one angry fellow. Are you ok? I get the feeling someone pisses in your cereal every morning. I piss in my own, it saves time. 😏😉 Hardly angry, I'm one of the least emotional people out there in that way. Simply not afraid to state the obvious, or what should be obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I have no problem seeing guys go and succeed on other teams, good for them. Its frustrating when it’s turns out to be a position of need for us though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 11 hours ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: You don't count 9 sacks as being good? No I count 9 as big. I meant numbers as in they had to let someone go so he was the odd man out and likely didn't want to sign him to more than 1 year deal based on age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Roundybout said: Oh yeah, the next game-changing running back. Looks like he’s an FA too. I remember there was another running back who we drafted after Karlos Williams left the league, I think he was a Williams too, maybe played for Arkansas? Can’t remember his name. Jonathon Williams’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Roundybout said: Oh yeah, the next game-changing running back. Looks like he’s an FA too. I remember there was another running back who we drafted after Karlos Williams left the league, I think he was a Williams too, maybe played for Arkansas? Can’t remember his name. Jonathan Williams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) Kelvin Benjamin Edited October 10, 2023 by freddyjj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Peterman hahahhahaha Seriously ones that have not been named - not just guys drafted but FA that signed then left as well: Hughes had a solid year Spain Ford Jefferson Lawson Phillips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 15 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Bobby trees never played for Micky Ds Robert Woods and Stephon Gilmore both walked the same offseason we brought McD in. Both guys were good in Buffalo and even better after they left. Maybe Woods was going to walk regardless, but we could've franchise tagged Gilmore. We also butchered the comp pick formula so we didnt even get 3rd rd comp picks out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Robert Woods and Stephon Gilmore both walked the same offseason we brought McD in. Both guys were good in Buffalo and even better after they left. Maybe Woods was going to walk regardless, but we could've franchise tagged Gilmore. We also butchered the comp pick formula so we didnt even get 3rd rd comp picks out of them. I was criticized constantly on the old Buffalo Bills message board Because I was adamant Stephon Gilmore was a all pro But regardless, woods was a stud here but underutilized.... and he got paid So good for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Robert Woods and Stephon Gilmore both walked the same offseason we brought McD in. Both guys were good in Buffalo and even better after they left. Maybe Woods was going to walk regardless, but we could've franchise tagged Gilmore. We also butchered the comp pick formula so we didnt even get 3rd rd comp picks out of them. Gilmore was the first guy I thought of, but wasn't sure if he counted as McD era. He's by far the most productive player post-Bills in the last 10 years. Defensive player of the year, mulitple All-Pro seasons, SB. I didnt remember that Woods left the same year. He had a couple outstanding years with the Rams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) On 10/9/2023 at 9:40 PM, Lost said: Zack Moss And FWIW, here are Moss' and Cooks' numbers thus far this season. Keep in mind that Moss has played in only four games to Cook's five. Moss has 89 carries for 445 Yards, 3 rushing TDs, and 24 1st-Downs, a long run of 56, 5.0 YPC, and 111 YPG, 8 catches for 72 Yards, 1 receiving TD, and 517 YFS Cook has 61 carries for 292 Yards, 1 rushing TD, 14 1st-Downs, a long run of 36, 4.8 YPC, and 58 YPG; 14 catches for 140 and 0 receiving TDs, and 432 YFS. Moss plays with the rookie Richardson on a team that ranked 30th in scoring offense and 27th in yardage offense last season, and is currently 11th in scoring and 12th in yards. Cook plays with Allen on a team that ranked 2nd in both scoring and yardage offense last season and which is currently 3rd in scoring and 4th in yardage O. I have no idea how that doesn't at least to a significant extent relate to coaching. ... on a side note. Edited October 11, 2023 by PBF81 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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