uticaclub Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 The quarterback who appears to be most comparable to Josh is early Cam Newton. Cam's performance began to decline in his sixth year, and now we find ourselves in a similar situation with Josh. As he enters his sixth year, it appears that his performance has deteriorated in every game since the Green Bay game last year. Will Allen be able to revive his career, or will he continue to experience a decline? This is a critical question that needs to be addressed. 3 3 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 What year did Favre regress? 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 minute ago, uticaclub said: The quarterback who appears to be most comparable to Josh is early Cam Newton. Cam's performance began to decline in his sixth year, and now we find ourselves in a similar situation with Josh. As he enters his sixth year, it appears that his performance has deteriorated in every game since the Green Bay game last year. Will Allen be able to revive his career, or will he continue to experience a decline? This is a critical question that needs to be addressed. How can we address it? All we can do is let it play out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, uticaclub said: The quarterback who appears to be most comparable to Josh is early Cam Newton. Cam's performance began to decline in his sixth year, and now we find ourselves in a similar situation with Josh. As he enters his sixth year, it appears that his performance has deteriorated in every game since the Green Bay game last year. Will Allen be able to revive his career, or will he continue to experience a decline? This is a critical question that needs to be addressed. Cam started to break down physically, Allen is having some mental regression which should be fixable. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 There has been no regression whatsoever in physical talent. If he truly regresses, it will be because of the mental/emotional side of the game. He probably wanted to impress his new girlfriend last night. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Cam unfortunately played in the last era you could hit QBs. Josh has no comp - he will be the comp for this next generation of QBs. Also, he tore his UCL. I’m far more concerned with a potential mental impact that’s had on him or if anything is lingering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 So? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 It would be a shame to not have Josh play at a high level for at least 12 years. There are many factors contributing to this recent decline including coaching, OL and Josh's own stubbornness. Comparing him to Cam athletically is very accurate. This season will be critical to his future & longevity. But he must cooperate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Josh doesn’t wear funky hats. Surprised he hasn’t regressed sooner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Josh doesn’t wear funky hats. Surprised he hasn’t regressed sooner. 😞 14 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Good for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Sorry but that is an absolutely gawdawful comparison, imo. 6 5 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, uticaclub said: The quarterback who appears to be most comparable to Josh is early Cam Newton. Cam's performance began to decline in his sixth year, and now we find ourselves in a similar situation with Josh. As he enters his sixth year, it appears that his performance has deteriorated in every game since the Green Bay game last year. Will Allen be able to revive his career, or will he continue to experience a decline? This is a critical question that needs to be addressed. that’s a bit much 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Simon Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: 😞 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsUberAlles Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, uticaclub said: The quarterback who appears to be most comparable to Josh is early Cam Newton. Cam's performance began to decline in his sixth year, and now we find ourselves in a similar situation with Josh. As he enters his sixth year, it appears that his performance has deteriorated in every game since the Green Bay game last year. Will Allen be able to revive his career, or will he continue to experience a decline? This is a critical question that needs to be addressed. LMAO...get off the ledge dude. Like really. Get off the ledge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, BillsUberAlles said: LMAO...get off the ledge dude. Like really. Get off the ledge. No where near the ledge, just bringing up a relevant talking point. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 I cringed at two hits Josh took last night, but those hits were swats with a pillow compared to what Cam regularly went through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 The Cam Newton comparison is for opposing fans who want Allen to have a short career. It's simply not a good comparison. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 I did notice that looking at his stats today….look at the years following his 6th. Imagine if that happened here. My god. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: There has been no regression whatsoever in physical talent. If he truly regresses, it will be because of the mental/emotional side of the game. He probably wanted to impress his new girlfriend last night. I think (not to blame Dorsey) that he has an ultra aggressive OC, and his ego wants to prove he’s still GOAT Josh. Defensives have been feasting off his ago. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, BillsUberAlles said: LMAO...get off the ledge dude. Like really. Get off the ledge. If you're not living near the edge/ledge, you're taking up too much space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsUberAlles Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, uticaclub said: No where near the ledge, just bringing up a relevant talking point. This has about as much relevancy as bringing up some random things that has nothing to do with what you are tying to compare it to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Started to regress after year 6 is so oddly specific and easily disproved. His 7th and 8th year in the league were actually better than his 6th year in the league. Not to mention Cam had literally one season on par with what Josh has done in the league. 2015, or year 5 for Cam was a complete outlier in terms of his overall career. 2015, Cam's MVP level season is what Josh has done 3 of his 5 full years in the league. Stop with the narrative, its not accurate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsUberAlles said: This has about as much relevancy as bringing up some random things that has nothing to do with what you are tying to compare it to. What are you even talking about? Allen & Newton played the same position and absorbed more hits then needed by playing the same style. It’s not that outlandish to compare the two careers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Josh is just hurling himself into linebackers and turning easy out of bounds scrambles back inside to initiate contact. He’s playing like a mindless idiot and i’m not even talking about the reckless throws. Cam from what i recall was mostly physical regression. Allen is having a crisis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Hopefully he got it out of his system last night. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Cam is only 34 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 hour ago, uticaclub said: The quarterback who appears to be most comparable to Josh is early Cam Newton. Cam's performance began to decline in his sixth year, and now we find ourselves in a similar situation with Josh. As he enters his sixth year, it appears that his performance has deteriorated in every game since the Green Bay game last year. Will Allen be able to revive his career, or will he continue to experience a decline? This is a critical question that needs to be addressed. 1 hour ago, Simon said: Sorry but that is an absolutely gawdawful comparison, imo. Agreed! Cam made a superbowl. He’s more in Wentz luck territory right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Agreed! Cam made a superbowl. He’s more in Wentz luck territory right now Josh has the most TDs ever through 5 years... Wentz can't lick his bootstraps 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Josh has the most TDs ever through 5 years... Wentz can't lick his bootstraps That would be Mahomes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Josh Allen has not taken the injuries. The cam newton was starting to take it that time. Yes he had the elbow last year but nothing more serious than that. Cam Newton was a walking mash unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, uticaclub said: That would be Mahomes You would be wrong... Josh is also the only quarterback in NFL history with 3 straight 40 TD seasons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: You would be wrong... Josh is also the only quarterback in NFL history with 3 straight 40 TD seasons Mahomes has 194 passing TDs, Allen had 176 total since 2018 Edited September 13, 2023 by uticaclub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, uticaclub said: Mahomes has 194 passing TDs, Allen had 176 total since 2018 Take their first five seasons in the NFL and add up their total touchdowns Josh has 177 Mahomes has 159 It doesn't matter that mahomes sat it still counts Edited September 13, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Take their first five seasons in the NFL and add up their total touchdowns Josh has 177 Mahomes has 159 Are you counting Mahomes rookie year, when he didn’t play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) Just now, uticaclub said: Are you counting Mahomes rookie year, when he didn’t play? Ummm I said first 5 years... plain as day Mahomes doesn't get a bonus year because his first five years doesn't mean he gets 6 Josh is ahead of Peyton Manning, Tom Brady Joe Montana everybody Edited September 13, 2023 by Buffalo716 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Ummm I said first 5 years... plain as day Mahomes doesn't get a bonus year because his first five years doesn't mean he gets 6 Josh is ahead of Peyton Manning, Tom Brady Joe Montana everybody 29 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Josh has the most TDs ever through 5 years... Wentz can't lick his bootstraps You said "through 5 years" not first 5 years. Montana's rookie year was 1979, his WRs still smoked and sold insurance in the offseason Edited September 13, 2023 by uticaclub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, uticaclub said: You said "through 5 years" not first 5 years. Montana's rookie year was 1979, his WRs still smoked and sold insurance in the offseason No receivers were selling insurance in 1979 that were roster players LOL the NFL CBA since at least 1975 the average a roster player makes was 56,000 56,000 in 1975 is over $300,000 today... Nobody needed to be a part-time player in 1979.. $300,000 a year is plenty Edited September 13, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonderful Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 I love Allen's competitiveness and incredible arm strength but he's breaking down from taking too many hits scrambling. But he has to do it as he will not succeed as a pure pocket passer. He'll be washed up in 3 years ☹️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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