Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: We're not sniffing that ridiculous contract. Just roll with Bernard & Williams and wait for Matt to return. It was a joke. The guy is one of the most overrated players in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 damn that's ugly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, Heitz said: In this game he's either close to making the tackle 7 yards down the field, or running beside the play as it comes to a conclusion. Happened three times on that last drive. 🤷♂️ Thats how it happened too, late to the play and someone fell into his leg. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 It shows you how enamored NFL GMs can be with pure physical attributes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Tremaine just got his knee hyperextended by a fellow teammate....friendly fire. He may be out for a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 their d will magically get better 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: We're not sniffing that ridiculous contract. Just roll with Bernard & Williams and wait for Matt to return. We aren’t rolling with Williams. I’d be all for it if Dorian were the starter. But he’s just sitting the bench and watching Dobson. I’m just not a fan of Dobson. I feel like he’s going to get picked on by the smart teams on 3rd down. I felt the same way about TB43- hopefully I’ll be wrong about this as well. If we could get an upgrade for a 5th-7th, we should make it happen. 4th, I’m ok with as long as he’s a sizable upgrade over Dobson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Heitz said: In this game he's either close to making the tackle 7 yards down the field, or running beside the play as it comes to a conclusion. Happened three times on that last drive. 🤷♂️ He never liked contact 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 41 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: It was a joke. The guy is one of the most overrated players in the league ....and as of a few minutes ago, he's hurt. Thank God we didn't extend him. He'll definitely go down in Buffalo lore as one of our more over rated LB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 53 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: Tremaine just got his knee hyperextended by a fellow teammate....friendly fire. He may be out for a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 How does someone follow this team and now know the names of players who’ve been on the team for 4+ years? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, clayboy54 said: It shows you how enamored NFL GMs can be with pure physical attributes. As they should. There is truth to “bigger, faster, stronger “. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: It was a joke. The guy is one of the most overrated players in the league I know it was a joke. I just get worked up remembering how often I had to defend my opinion over the years of how over rated he was. At least McB had the sense to move on and hopefully they do the same with Gabe. Milano is and always was our most valuable LB. You can even argue our best defensive player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Wish TE a speedy recovery. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: ....and as of a few minutes ago, he's hurt. Thank God we didn't extend him. He'll definitely go down in Buffalo lore as one of our more over rated LB's. he just turned 21 though! 🤣 give him a break 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Philly McButterpants said: And he’s only 19! This shouldn't be funny for the millionth time but still is lol 2 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, JerseyBills said: he just turned 21 though! 🤣 give him a break OK Marty, you can get back in your DeLorean now... this is 2023, not 2018 😂 Never gets old this banter! Edited October 30, 2023 by EasternOHBillsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryMadman Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 He's still young, basically rookie like! Lol Dude stinks! Glad he's not our problem anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 11 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: I know it was a joke. I just get worked up remembering how often I had to defend my opinion over the years of how over rated he was. At least McB had the sense to move on and hopefully they do the same with Gabe. Milano is and always was our most valuable LB. You can even argue our best defensive player. You could argue Milano is the best linebacker in the league if he wasn't constantly injured. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 He wasn’t worth what the bears paid, but anyone thinks the current linebacker situation is an upgrade is sorely mistaken. especially with Milano entirely predictably having his third season significantly effected by injury. With Milano out, Edmunds and Bernard would be a whole lot better than Bernard and Williams/Dodson/Poyer… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: He wasn’t worth what the bears paid, but anyone thinks the current linebacker situation is an upgrade is sorely mistaken. especially with Milano entirely predictably having his third season significantly effected by injury. With Milano out, Edmunds and Bernard would be a whole lot better than Bernard and Williams/Dodson/Poyer… Not for the requisite contract required he’s not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: He wasn’t worth what the bears paid, but anyone thinks the current linebacker situation is an upgrade is sorely mistaken. especially with Milano entirely predictably having his third season significantly effected by injury. With Milano out, Edmunds and Bernard would be a whole lot better than Bernard and Williams/Dodson/Poyer… How exactly is a broken leg predictable? Edited October 30, 2023 by yall 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: He wasn’t worth what the bears paid, but anyone thinks the current linebacker situation is an upgrade is sorely mistaken. especially with Milano entirely predictably having his third season significantly effected by injury. With Milano out, Edmunds and Bernard would be a whole lot better than Bernard and Williams/Dodson/Poyer… It's unfair to compare our current linebacker situation now, with Milano injured, to what we had with Edmunds and Milano playing. Bernard has made more splash plays in half a season than Edmunds makes in multiple full seasons. For their respective salaries, I'll take Bernard all day and twice on Sundays. BTW: Individually, Bernard has had a standout performance in his first eight games, racking up two sacks, two interceptions and three fumble recoveries. No other player in football has multiple sacks, interceptions and fumble recoveries. https://www.buffalobills.com/news/five-bills-players-making-an-impact-kincaid-diggs-floyd-bernard-cook When was the last time Edmunds did anything close to that? Edited October 30, 2023 by Nephilim17 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Bears fans are starting to catch on 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: It's unfair to compare our current linebacker situation now, with Milano injured, to what we had with Edmunds and Milano playing. Bernard has made more splash plays in half a season than Edmunds makes in multiple full seasons. For their respective salaries, I'll take Bernard all day and twice on Sundays. BTW: Individually, Bernard has had a standout performance in his first eight games, racking up two sacks, two interceptions and three fumble recoveries. No other player in football has multiple sacks, interceptions and fumble recoveries. https://www.buffalobills.com/news/five-bills-players-making-an-impact-kincaid-diggs-floyd-bernard-cook When was the last time Edmunds did anything close to that? we know he wasn’t a ball hawk. … the patriots game was the first time in a long time I’ve seen an offense repeatedly attack the middle of this defensive scheme with success. I think there is a real big problem in the middle of the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 49 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: He wasn’t worth what the bears paid, but anyone thinks the current linebacker situation is an upgrade is sorely mistaken. especially with Milano entirely predictably having his third season significantly effected by injury. With Milano out, Edmunds and Bernard would be a whole lot better than Bernard and Williams/Dodson/Poyer… Good point. We should have paid Edmunds $18M just in case one of the starters gets injured. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, Rigotz said: Good point. We should have paid Edmunds $18M just in case one of the starters gets injured. Who said that anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Bears fans are starting to catch on So predictable, I called it in the offseason. I thought it would take about 4-6 games though, but they were already on him by game 2. Whoever pushed for him on the Bears pro personnel department should be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: we know he wasn’t a ball hawk. … the patriots game was the first time in a long time I’ve seen an offense repeatedly attack the middle of this defensive scheme with success. I think there is a real big problem in the middle of the defense. I predicted this because that is EXACTLY what Belichek did to us (with great success) when Tremaine was a rookie. Edited October 30, 2023 by RoyBatty is alive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Who said that anywhere? The person who replaced Edmunds is Bernard. Bernard has been a significant upgrade. However, you need something to cling to when it comes to Edmunds. So you’re saying that because Milano, who plays a different position from Edmunds, got injured … we’re in a worse spot at linebacker than if we signed Edmunds?? No, that’s absurd. Just deal with the fact that Edmunds has been below average for the Bears and the guy who replaced him is better. End of conversation. No coulda woulda shoulda for different guys who got injured, who don’t play the same position as Edmunds. That’s just trying to salvage hope in Edmunds when the fact remains, we’re all glad his gone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Would be hilarious if Bills traded a 3rd rounder to Bears to bring him back. There’s surprisingly only $5m in dead cap to Bears if they traded him. Looks like there’d be 3 years $45 left on his contract and Bills would only pay half of his $2.5m salary this year. So essentially 3.5 years $46m. Kinda like what houston astros did with verlander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 45 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: It's unfair to compare our current linebacker situation now, with Milano injured, to what we had with Edmunds and Milano playing. Bernard has made more splash plays in half a season than Edmunds makes in multiple full seasons. For their respective salaries, I'll take Bernard all day and twice on Sundays. BTW: Individually, Bernard has had a standout performance in his first eight games, racking up two sacks, two interceptions and three fumble recoveries. No other player in football has multiple sacks, interceptions and fumble recoveries. https://www.buffalobills.com/news/five-bills-players-making-an-impact-kincaid-diggs-floyd-bernard-cook When was the last time Edmunds did anything close to that? Of course it’s fair. The team lost a player to free agency, elevated a back up on the roster to start and didn’t address lack of depth. It’s a major problem. Those two linebacker spots are pretty important in the scheme. Bernard is a ball hawk, but he’s been attacked a little more the past couple weeks and that seam has been attacked a bunch more too, exposing Taron a bit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Rigotz said: The person who replaced Edmunds is Bernard. Bernard has been a significant upgrade. However, you need something to cling to when it comes to Edmunds. So you’re saying that because Milano, who plays a different position from Edmunds, got injured … we’re in a worse spot at linebacker than if we signed Edmunds?? No, that’s absurd. Just deal with the fact that Edmunds has been below average for the Bears and the guy who replaced him is better. End of conversation. No coulda woulda shoulda for different guys who got injured, who don’t play the same position as Edmunds. That’s just trying to salvage hope in Edmunds when the fact remains, we’re all glad his gone. be glad all you want. Several things can be true. 1) despite Edmunds lack of instincts, his size and athleticism made him an effective starter in the middle of an excellent defensive year after year 2) he wasn’t worth the deal he got from Chicago based on his shortcomings and he rarely created turnovers or factored into the pass rush 3) most people who zeroed in on blaming him for long running plays have no clue how a gap defense works 4) he still put enough good work on film to get paid a lot of money and multiple pro bowl nods. 5) his availability has been very high 6) the organization did little to backfill a pretty critical area of the defense and one injury to milano (3rd season ending injury) later the defense is hosed 7) he never really lived up to his draft pick 8- several good players considered him a good player. Edited October 30, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Would be hilarious if Bills traded a 3rd rounder to Bears to bring him back. There’s surprisingly only $5m in dead cap to Bears if they traded him. Looks like there’d be 3 years $45 left on his contract and Bills would only pay half of his $2.5m salary this year. So essentially 3.5 years $46m. Kinda like what houston astros did with verlander. Actually a roster bonus of $5m too, so 3 years remaining at $50m plus only $1.25m of this years salary. And Bears would take $7.5m dead cap hit. Bears have $10m in cap space. I think most would’ve brought back Edmunds at $50m over 4 years with only 2024 salary guaranteed. He’s been in the defense long enough to play Milano’s position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: So predictable, I called it in the offseason. I thought it would take about 4-6 games though, but they were already on him by game 2. Whoever pushed for him on the Bears pro personnel department should be fired. In fairness, there were a lot of people who loved Edmunds in Bills land. they have disappeared and walk among us in shadow now. But we will never forget. 5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: be glad all you want. Several things can be true. 1) despite Edmunds lack of instincts, his athleticism made him an effective starter in the middle of an excellent defensive year after year 2) he wasn’t worth the deal he got from Chicago based on his shortcomings and he rarely created turnovers or factored into the pass rush 3) most people who zeroed in on blaming him for long running plays have no clue how a gap defense works 4) he still put enough good work on film to get paid a lot of money and multiple pro bowl nods. 5) his availability has been very high 6) the organization did little to backfill a pretty critical area of the defense and one injury to milano (3rd season ending injury) later the defense is hosed They spent two day two picks on linebackers in the last 2 years? How is that “little?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: In fairness, there were a lot of people who loved Edmunds in Bills land. they have disappeared and walk among us in shadow now. But we will never forget. They spent two day two picks on linebackers in the last 2 years? How is that “little?” Oh good … the safety sized guy who was benched or the one named after a ghost, because of what happens on game day? Is that the complication of big moves to address the situation ?? Bernard gets dinged like he was all preseason and the offense will need to put up 50 ppg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: be glad all you want. Several things can be true. 1) despite Edmunds lack of instincts, his size and athleticism made him an effective starter in the middle of an excellent defensive year after year 2) he wasn’t worth the deal he got from Chicago based on his shortcomings and he rarely created turnovers or factored into the pass rush 3) most people who zeroed in on blaming him for long running plays have no clue how a gap defense works 4) he still put enough good work on film to get paid a lot of money and multiple pro bowl nods. 5) his availability has been very high 6) the organization did little to backfill a pretty critical area of the defense and one injury to milano (3rd season ending injury) later the defense is hosed 7) he never really lived up to his draft pick 8- several good players considered him a good player. 1. You forgot to mention Matt Milano helped make him an effective starter by helping cover for his shortcomings. Bernard allowed Milano to become even more effective until the injury. 2. Yep 3. Most people who absolve Edmunds on long running plays ignore the fact that Edmunds dogs it regularly when the play is not right in front of him and refuses to physically take on blocks, preferring to backpedal relentlessly. 4. He put enough good work on film in a contract year for a Chicago team desperate to make a splash after letting a quality LB walk. Too many outsiders watch a couple tackle highlights, look at his physical size, how he called the defense and don't delve into how he actually plays the game. Suckers. 5. Yes, because he abhors physical contact unless he is the only one who can make the tackle. 6. Bernard is a definite upgrade but the FO could have done more. The defense is getting hosed by losing Tre, Daquan, Oliver(short term) and Milano. Not Edmunds. It would be even worse if we had kept slacker Edmunds. 7. Yep 8. What does that mean and who really cares? Making a couple tackles and calling the defense earn him some appreciation but good is not great. Pick a Bears game from this season, type in "Bears vs ________ highlights" and watch the 10 to 15 minute video. Focus exclusively on him and watch how much he dogs it out of his total plays when he should be fighting through blocks, closing to the ball and assisting on tackles. Can't be any more obvious than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 He had an interception 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 46 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: He had an interception HOW DID BEANE LET THIS GUY GO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.