Dalton Kincaid stats this year

[HappyDays]

45 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

You guys in legal states can win some good money potentially.

 

https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/nfl/dalton-kincaid-bills-rookie-receiving-yards-nfl-odds-bm06/

 

Dalton Kincaid Odds for AP Offensive Rookie of the Year

Bills rookie Dalton Kincaid is currently +3000, or 30-to-1, at the BetMGM online sportsbook.

 

 

 

A TE has never won OROY. A bet I placed is +1400 for Kincaid to have the most receiving yards out of all rookies. I think that is a reasonably likely outcome given how much we pass and how much Allen has specifically thrown the ball to a good slot WR (Beasley) before.

[BigDingus]

***Conservative Est.***

 

45 receptions

540 yards

4 TD's

 

***High Est. (If Dorsey actually utilizes him in the slot more than 2 TE sets)***

 

65 receptions

770 yards

6 TD's

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

***Conservative Est.***

 

45 receptions

540 yards

4 TD's

 

***High Est. (If Dorsey actually utilizes him in the slot more than 2 TE sets)***

 

65 receptions

770 yards

6 TD's

 

If I had to decide, I’d take closer to the higher end than lower end. Actually reaching the higher end would be awesome as a rookie with other targets on the field. I’d LOVE to be surprised! He runs and moves like a smaller guy.

[BigDingus]

7 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

If I had to decide, I’d take closer to the higher end than lower end. Actually reaching the higher end would be awesome as a rookie with other targets on the field. I’d LOVE to be surprised! He runs and moves like a smaller guy.

 

My conservative estimate is geared towards Dorsey rotating him in for 2 TE sets & empty backfields trying to spread the field. In that situation, I can see him used to create mismatches in the redzone or attempts to stretch the field. He may have numbers similar to Gabe Davis's rookie year, with slightly higher YPC (not than Gabe, but than my higher est).

 

But if Dorsey commits to using him a lot more & gives him significant reps in the slot, he may lean more towards Cole Beasley's numbers and used a lot to move the chains. I don't think TD differential will be that much, but he'll have a more opportunities in the offense.

Edited August 2, 2023 by BigDingus

[Augie]

Just now, BigDingus said:

 

My conservative estimate is geared towards Dorsey rotating him in for 2 TE sets & empty backfields trying to spread the field. In that situation, I can see him used to create mismatches in the redzone or attempts to stretch the field. He may have numbers similar to Gabe Davis's rookie year, with slightly higher YPC.

 

But if Dorsey commits to using him a lot more & gives him significant reps in the slot, he may lean more towards Cole Beasley's numbers and used a lot to move the chains. I don't think TD differential will be that much, but he'll have a more opportunities in the offense.

 

OH! I get it! Forget almost everyone else. This whole season pretty much hinges on Dorsey, what he does and how he does it. 

[Dan in Owego]

On 6/11/2023 at 10:09 PM, Dan in Owego said:

Want some thoughts on projection of numbers on our number one pick. I am bullish on him for some obvious reasons, and admittedly some homerish reasons as well. 

 

750 yards

8 touchdowns

Any one want to take an early June shot at this?

 

I wanna go with 9 touchdowns now😳

[JerseyBills]

4 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

A TE has never won OROY. A bet I placed is +1400 for Kincaid to have the most receiving yards out of all rookies. I think that is a reasonably likely outcome given how much we pass and how much Allen has specifically thrown the ball to a good slot WR (Beasley) before.

I'd put a few bucks on a few other rookies in the yards category to hedge my bet

[LarryMadman]

50 rec, that's 3 per game avg

 

600 yards, that's 35 yards per game

 

5 or 6 TDs

 

Those are very doable numbers as Josh is going to have 4500 yards and 40 TDs

 

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

4 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

A TE has never won OROY. A bet I placed is +1400 for Kincaid to have the most receiving yards out of all rookies. I think that is a reasonably likely outcome given how much we pass and how much Allen has specifically thrown the ball to a good slot WR (Beasley) before.

And what if he wins NFL MVP?  My $100 bet turns into $10,000,000?

[Dr.Sack]

7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

That would be just what Dr. Dorsey ordered.

 

I'll settle for Kyle Pitts rookie year reception/yardage stats........70/1,000.......which were accumulated with bad QB play.

 

Pitts was considered a better prospect but he was drafted as a 20 year old..........by comparison Kincaid is a seasoned veteran at 23.

Kincaid (Oct 1999) is a year older than Pitts (Oct 2000). That said, I expect a soon to be 24 year old rookie to be ready to dominate.

[BillsShredder83]

9 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

You guys in legal states can win some good money potentially.

 

https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/nfl/dalton-kincaid-bills-rookie-receiving-yards-nfl-odds-bm06/

 

Dalton Kincaid Odds for AP Offensive Rookie of the Year

Bills rookie Dalton Kincaid is currently +3000, or 30-to-1, at the BetMGM online sportsbook.

 

 

hell, i like this a bunch. if damar gets cut or our guys stay healthy i could see Tua (#2 odds) winning.

Might round robin Tua with Josh, Mahomes and Burrow!

[BillsShredder83]

On 6/30/2023 at 8:59 PM, pi2000 said:

 

Love him as a prospect, but he's very very green as a TE.  He has a lot to learn.   I wouldn't be surprised if he's not on the gameday roster until mid-season. 

 

This team is in win now mode with an experienced TE already on the roster.

thank goodness he will be TE only by name and will be in the slot more than half his snaps.... out of his in line snaps, id bet 70% of those hes lined up as the F (flex TE). Him and Knox play diff positions at this point, but youd know that if you dug below the most surface level scout report

9 hours ago, NewEra said:

Mmhmmm.  Placed my wager a month ago.  It’s down to +2500 on most sites I see now

+4500 on fanduel

11 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

 

I'll actually take it a step further. I think there is a very real chance that at the end of the year he has more catches and yards than Knox. Nothing against Knox, either...he will still get his. Josh loves using his slot guys and that's where Kincaid will be. 

not to mention im already sensing Knox will be helping out Spencer again a lot this year

[BullBuchanan]

46 catches

490 yards

5 TDs

 

[NewEra]

5 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

thank goodness he will be TE only by name and will be in the slot more than half his snaps.... out of his in line snaps, id bet 70% of those hes lined up as the F (flex TE). Him and Knox play diff positions at this point, but youd know that if you dug below the most surface level scout report

+4500 on fanduel

not to mention im already sensing Knox will be helping out Spencer again a lot this year

Yeah- fanduel has the best bettor odds by far.  Too bad I’m in Vegas.  Fanduel isn’t allowed here.  Next stop, Utah, doesn’t allow it either 😢 

[mrags]

47 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yeah- fanduel has the best bettor odds by far.  Too bad I’m in Vegas.  Fanduel isn’t allowed here.  Next stop, Utah, doesn’t allow it either 😢 

Should be good to go in Arizona thought right? 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

I don't think that numbers will fully show his impact. 600 yards and 8 TD would be at the high end of expectations, and I would be thrilled if he hit that. Diggs is still going to eat, but I like this as a 1-2 punch

[Fan in Chicago]

14 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

A TE has never won OROY. A bet I placed is +1400 for Kincaid to have the most receiving yards out of all rookies. I think that is a reasonably likely outcome given how much we pass and how much Allen has specifically thrown the ball to a good slot WR (Beasley) before.

Tall order for a TE to have highest receiving yards. I understand that the WR class was not great but if one of them turns out to be a hit, it is typically easier for that WR to rack up yards compared to a TE. 

But if Kincaid somehow achieves that distinction, it will be fantastic for the Bills O. I have my expectations at 60 / 700 / 8 because as a true blue beaten Bills fan for 30+ years, I have learned to temper my expectations of any player 

[NewEra]

16 minutes ago, mrags said:

Should be good to go in Arizona thought right? 

Should be- idk- only go to Az for Bills games. 
 

Edit:  i suppose i could pull over for the 2 miles of Az on the trip to and from St. George.   
 

how easy is it to open a fanduel account and put money in it?  Can you use a debit card?

Edited August 3, 2023 by NewEra

[mrags]

36 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Should be- idk- only go to Az for Bills games. 
 

Edit:  i suppose i could pull over for the 2 miles of Az on the trip to and from St. George.   
 

how easy is it to open a fanduel account and put money in it?  Can you use a debit card?

I did it years ago and almost never use it anymore. But if I remember it was fairly easy and quick. 
 

iirc, when I lived in Vegas I used to know people that would drive to AZ just to buy scratch offs. Likely works the same way. It’s only prohibited in NV because the Casinos have a deal so they don’t lose business 

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, mrags said:

I did it years ago and almost never use it anymore. But if I remember it was fairly easy and quick. 
 

iirc, when I lived in Vegas I used to know people that would drive to AZ just to buy scratch offs. Likely works the same way. It’s only prohibited in NV because the Casinos have a deal so they don’t lose business 

Yeah- Vegas only allows daily fantasy betting other than their casinos and sports books. 

 

I’ll try it out on my next drive to St. George.  Utah isn’t on board with sports betting.  Hopefully that’ll change at some point 🙏🏻 

[machine gun kelly]

15 hours ago, BigDingus said:

***Conservative Est.***

 

45 receptions

540 yards

4 TD's

 

***High Est. (If Dorsey actually utilizes him in the slot more than 2 TE sets)***

 

65 receptions

770 yards

6 TD's

Now that’s a speculation that is measured and pragmatic.  I see it the same as Mingus Dingus.

 

Its appreciated having real Bills fans with pragmatic expectations, but hopes of something more.

 

The ? is how does the ball get spread out between im guessing either Sherfield or Shakir as the slot, Harty as the gadget guy, 12 in Knox and Kinkaid, and a most likely increased run game even if that means more hot routes to Cook.  
 

It smells to me if no one getting god awful stats, (except Diggs) but a highly potent offense.  I think we will in time be very happy with McGovern and Torrence bookending Morse, and a Brow with a full year of OTA’s, mini, and TC, and a healthy back and neck.  This is the critical component.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Seems like he’s getting a huge workload in camp so I think that would lean towards Dorsey using him early and often…I’d put the over under at 650 receiving yards / 5 tds 

[Warriorspikes51]

2 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Seems like he’s getting a huge workload in camp so I think that would lean towards Dorsey using him early and often…I’d put the over under at 650 receiving yards / 5 tds 

 

He better be targeted a lot.   800 and 9 TD's.  Let's go. Better yet.....

The 2008 Arizona Cardinals are the last team to have a trio of receivers go over 1,000 yards apiece. Larry Fitzgerald (1,431), Anquan Boldin (1,038) and Steve Breaston (1,006)

Diggs 1,500
Davis 1,050

Kincaid 1,050 

Disclaimer: I don't expect that to happen. Just fun to imagine 

Edited August 3, 2023 by Warriorspikes51

[Dan in Owego]

Season totals start here

 

6 catches

84 yards

1td

[NewEra]

11 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said:

Season totals start here

 

6 catches

84 yards

1td

Nice!  Thanks for posting

[Straight Hucklebuck]

On 6/11/2023 at 10:28 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why? Who should’ve had more catches and didn’t? There’s zero basis for this argument. 
 

Hines? Hines was a late in season addition who’s been a backup RB his entire career.

Hines touched the ball 12 times on offense in his first NFL game with the Colts. 

 

He got 11 total touches on offense with the Bills in 9 games as a 4-year veteran. 

 

It's a valid concern. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Hines touched the ball 12 times on offense in his first NFL game with the Colts. 

 

He got 11 total touches on offense with the Bills in 9 games as a 4-year veteran. 

 

It's a valid concern. 

It’s not a valid concern. There was no path to getting Hines touches.

 

Hines was the 3rd RB after being traded to Buffalo. A team with McKenzie playing a prominent role.

 

The options to get Hines touches was take touches and snaps away from Singletary, Cook, McKenzie, and/or Knox.

 

He found his role as a return man. 

[RiotAct]

125 catches

 

1,880 yards

 

16 TDs

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

It’s not a valid concern. There was no path to getting Hines touches.

 

Hines was the 3rd RB after being traded to Buffalo. A team with McKenzie playing a prominent role.

 

The options to get Hines touches was take touches and snaps away from Singletary, Cook, McKenzie, and/or Knox.

 

He found his role as a return man. 

More like once McDermott puts you on Special Teams, you never get out of doing that. 

 

There was a clear disconnect between the comments Beane made in his press conference after acquiring Hines and the expected benefit, verses the reality once he got here. 

 

The running excuse was he was getting up to speed on the playbook, but clearly he never factored into their offensive plans. 

 

 

[Dan in Owego]

3 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

125 catches

 

1,880 yards

 

16 TDs

Like to see a few more TDs with those catch and yardage totals🤔

[Buffalo_Stampede]

11 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

More like once McDermott puts you on Special Teams, you never get out of doing that. 

 

There was a clear disconnect between the comments Beane made in his press conference after acquiring Hines and the expected benefit, verses the reality once he got here. 

 

The running excuse was he was getting up to speed on the playbook, but clearly he never factored into their offensive plans. 

 

 

They had Singletary and Cook. You have to take someone off the field. That’s something you’re not understanding. Hines was more of an insurance policy for Cook.

 

As it relates to Kincaid that shouldn’t be an issue because Kincaid has no competition for his role on the offense. 

Edited September 5, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Straight Hucklebuck]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They had Singletary and Cook. You have to take someone off the field. That’s something you’re not understanding. Hines was more of an insurance policy for Cook.

 

As it relates to Kincaid that shouldn’t be an issue because Kincaid has no competition for his role on the offense. 

 

Ok. 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Dalton is going to be the number two target in this offense. 
70 to 80 catches and eight touchdowns. 

[stevens273]

On 8/3/2023 at 6:13 AM, NewEra said:

Yeah- Vegas only allows daily fantasy betting other than their casinos and sports books. 

 

I’ll try it out on my next drive to St. George.  Utah isn’t on board with sports betting.  Hopefully that’ll change at some point 🙏🏻 

This does work. We were driving from SLC to Vegas. Once we got out of the Virgin River canyon in Az. cell service was great and my wife was able to place her MLB bets on Draft Kings without stopping. 29 miles of the Interstate is in Az. 

Edited September 5, 2023 by stevens273

[Dan in Owego]

36 minutes ago, stevens273 said:

This does work. We were driving from SLC to Vegas. Once we got out of the Virgin River canyon in Az. cell service was great and my wife was able to place her MLB bets on Draft Kings without stopping. 29 miles of the Interstate is in Az. 

You let your wife bet on MLB???🤑

[Kirby Jackson]

On 6/12/2023 at 5:13 PM, Kirby Jackson said:

68 catches

680 yards

6 TDs

 

I did 4 catches and 40 yards a game. I also figured a TD every 3 games. Those numbers feel realistic to me.

The Kincaid pick thread inspired me to look back at the prediction thread. How close was everyone?

It looks like I’ll be a little light on the catches. The TDs still feel possible and he hopefully surpasses that yardage. 

[FireChans]

On 6/11/2023 at 8:22 PM, FireChans said:

31 catches, 375 yards, 1 TD. 

@Kirby Jackson

 

smashed it

[Dan in Owego]

6 catches a game will push him close to 90, want to see him push that average up over 10. Love this kid and what he can bring💪

[Kirby Jackson]

13 minutes ago, FireChans said:

@Kirby Jackson

 

smashed it

Lol, I saw that. It’s perfect. You were able to be pleasantly surprised. The Bills drafted a talented pass catching TE and he’s actually good. If they would have realized that before like week 8, they’d be even better off. 

[FireChans]

5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Lol, I saw that. It’s perfect. You were able to be pleasantly surprised. The Bills drafted a talented pass catching TE and he’s actually good. If they would have realized that before like week 8, they’d be even better off. 

It was a prediction that was mostly an indictment on Dorsey, if I knew he was gonna be fired, I would have gone higher!