Warriorspikes51 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Maybe we get really lucky and another one of the quality Edge guys still on the market takes a cheap deal for a shot at a ring. Justin Houston has signed cheap contracts recently…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 This is a great move. Floyd was one of about 5 edge rushers still available that I desperately wanted the Bills to sign. It was going to be a glaring need until Von is fully recovered. I think right now Basham is competing with Shane Ray for the last roster spot. I won't be surprised if Basham is traded for a late day three pick in August. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said: Meh the pass rush was dreadful so they needed someone but this guy was a bust until he got to play next to Aaron Donald. my girlfriend could rack up 6-8 sacks playing next to Donald, Floyd won’t have that luxury here What an a$$ you are! 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JerseyBills Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 31 minutes ago, SCBills said: Im “ok” with the WR situation. Think it has a lot of potential, but also a lot of question marks. That said .. I echo that poster’s sentiment. It’s truly impressive to me that we were able to, thus far, come away with.. Key Losses: Edmunds, Singletary & McKenzie Key Additions: Rapp, Harris, Murray, McGovern, Shell, Harty, Sherfield, Ford & Floyd Not counting the draft picks, the roster churn this off-season (on paper) has been a massive upgrade. Massive upgrade including WR . Also Edwards and Murray. + An additional 3rd rder next year Home run , matter fact grand slam of an off season ! Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: And hasn't missed a game since 2017 . Wow 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Watch the bull rush on this play. Don't get to see this very often from Bills DEs. At least not from the ones not named Miller. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dopey said: Is she good in bed too? That answers my questions. If you have a side piece, that means your girlfriend isn't good in the sack. Either that or she physically abuses you. Oh, come on could you envision a situation where suny is not getting smacked around 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 54 minutes ago, eball said: It feels more and more as though Basham and Epenesa will be camp casualties. It’s disappointing and no feather in Beane’s cap to whiff on two 2nd rounders, but at least he’s not doubling down on the mistake by standing pat. Hard to criticize this signing. Epenesa has shown he can play as long as he is on a rookie contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJGauna Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 They just added 10 sacks to this defense, what a great move! Have fun in Houston, DHop! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, JGMcD2 said: Top 10 pick in 2016 and never really took off in Chicago. Has been with the Rams the past 3 seasons and produced 10.5, 9.5 and 9.0 sacks. He’ll get after the QB. Chicago drafted a high-upside edge player in the top 10 and then made him an inside linebacker covering all of the time. When he moved to the edge he was able to make a nice impact. One of the reasons why all those dudes got fired in Chicago. And 100%...you can never have too many pass rushers and he will help us. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Guessing Boogie is a training camp trade. 5th round pick is my guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) I have been saying for months that we needed to improve our pass rush, and while DeAndre Hopkins sounded really nice we did have the third overall offense last year and just drafted Kincaid There were literally five veteran pass rushers that I would’ve been completely happy with Leonard Floyd is always a guy that I pictured pricing himself out of our range Almost 30 sacks in the last three years Is available every game A very consistent guy a guy with playoff experience. you know that Von Miller had something to do with this I envision Vaughn going on the pup to start the season and so we will have Leonard, Floyd and Groot providing the pass rush, and then it will be Floyd, Vaughn, and groot Let’s not forget here we’re trying to create teams that can beat the Kansas City Chiefs. You beat the Chiefs by getting after Mahomes. Edited June 5, 2023 by John from Riverside 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Von Floyd Rousseau Shaq Epenesa Kingsley Basham Ray If someone like Justin Houston or Melvin Ingram wants to sign here for 1 year 2 mil, that would be a scary good top 4 rotation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Grid Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Love this move. Guy isn’t a world beater, but is a solid veteran pass rusher and a heck of a lot better than anyone the Bills have after Miller and Rousseau. As a pure pass rusher he was the best left on the market. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said: careful. no negativity allowed here Not being negative. The contract is probably decent. He’s not getting top dollar signing this late. The risk, simply put, is relying on players into their 30s when the drop off in production/injuries is right around the corner. The defense needed another pass rusher desperately, so he fits. I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Grid Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Guessing Boogie is a training camp trade. 5th round pick is my guess. I don’t think Boogie could net a 2026 7th rounder at this point. But I’d be happy to be proven wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Airseven said: Not being negative. The contract is probably decent. He’s not getting top dollar signing this late. The risk, simply put, is relying on players into their 30s when the drop off in production/injuries is right around the corner. The defense needed another pass rusher desperately, so he fits. I get it. What would you consider top dollar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Low risk, potential high reward signing. I'm on board 2 minutes ago, Airseven said: Not being negative. The contract is probably decent. He’s not getting top dollar signing this late. The risk, simply put, is relying on players into their 30s when the drop off in production/injuries is right around the corner. The defense needed another pass rusher desperately, so he fits. I get it. Contract is likely a 1 year deal near vet min with some bonus opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Von Floyd Rousseau Shaq Epenesa Kingsley Basham Ray If someone like Justin Houston or Melvin Ingram wants to sign here for 1 year 2 mil, that would be a scary good top 4 rotation Lol now you’re just being greedy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 The best part about this strategy of "going for it all" is we're not mortgaging our future. No 2nd round draft pick given up for Hopkins. Sorry armchair GM's. We gained a 3rd round comp for losing Edmunds. No panicked movements, just flawless execution to set our team up for a Super Bowl and future success. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 43 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Von Rousseau (moved inside) Oliver Floyd that's a quality pass rush package on 3rd and long I am curious, why do you want Groot inside? I'm not saying it's a bad idea I'm just curious. Have him as a 3 tech? Maybe a 7 tech and have Floyd go wide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: Would like to see some solid input on this acquisition. I really don't know much about him. I’m sure you’ll find something to hate soon. He has two first names. Is that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, DJB said: Can he play WR? No, he plays defense. Kinda obvious. Not sure why you'd ask since it says he's a pass rusher 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Guessing Boogie is a training camp trade. 5th round pick is my guess. 6 minutes ago, DC Grid said: I don’t think Boogie could net a 2026 7th rounder at this point. But I’d be happy to be proven wrong. I think they should use him as a situational interior rusher like they said they would when they drafted him. I think at his drafted weight he is more DT than an edge in this defense. Were camp reports that he bulked up a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Man when Von is healthy you go throw him, Leonard, and Greg on the field at the same time that ain’t bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, DC Grid said: I don’t think Boogie could net a 2026 7th rounder at this point. But I’d be happy to be proven wrong. Cody ford got a 5th. I say 5th or 6th. He’s still very much unproven 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Airseven said: Not being negative. The contract is probably decent. He’s not getting top dollar signing this late. The risk, simply put, is relying on players into their 30s when the drop off in production/injuries is right around the corner. The defense needed another pass rusher desperately, so he fits. I get it. it's a 1 year contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) Also to put in perspective- Floyd signed a 1 yr / 10 mil deal in 2020 They extended him at 4 yrs/64 mil in 21 and was released based on their rebuilding. So just shows how much LA thought of and valued him And now we get him for at least half of what he would of gotten this year (16 mil). Edited June 5, 2023 by JerseyBills 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Bills roster was at 90 man limit. Someone needs to be cut when they sigh him. Worked with someone who was a NFL player for JEST. He made 53 man roster and also was on Practice Squad and every time a player was signed there was worry he would be cut to make room. Fortunately he did not waste his education and he is a well paid security engineer now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think they should use him as a situational interior rusher like they said they would when they drafted him. I think at his drafted weight he is more DT than an edge in this defense. Were camp reports that he bulked up a bit? Possible. Just a lot of bodies in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I am curious, why do you want Groot inside? I'm not saying it's a bad idea I'm just curious. Have him as a 3 tech? Maybe a 7 tech and have Floyd go wide? only as a package on obvious pass rush situations. He showed in college he was good at pressure when lined up inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, TOboy said: And why do you think that is? Normally details get released quickly when it's a big number. That being said, it's a one year deal so it's likely the money they saved from extending Oliver so less than 10m likely with a bunch of incentives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I was never on the hype train the year he came out, but then he was misused and labelled a bust which was never quite true. He is good vet insurance in the event Von isn't back week 1. Like Von he has really been an OLB but I think he could play the rush end position Von was playing for us. Groot big end, Floyd as the 9 tech on passing downs, bring Shaq in to play in the jumbo package. AJE first off the bench. Boogie here just until Von is healthy. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 51 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I’d wager Shaq is in trouble more than Boogie… I’d be surprised if they already conclude Boogie doesn’t have it considering their love and patience for their draft picks. You are probably right. Beane is obsessed with his draft picks so Shaq will probably be gone instead of Boogie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 24 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said: Ngakoue though is better against the run and a smarter player. All things considered neither moves the needle too much when compared to DeAndre Hopkins but I'd rather have the smarter, more disciplined player. Unless Ngakoue was asking for a lot more money, which is possible Ngakoue is not better against the run. He is one of the worst in the league. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said: Been with your mom on the side for many years, I figured its time to find someone else Bye...... 5 1 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Great signing. Nothing not to love about it. Proven consistent pass rusher that won a ring rushing opposite Von. 5 minutes ago, MWK said: You are probably right. Beane is obsessed with his draft picks so Shaq will probably be gone instead of Boogie Better chance Lawson is cut but better chance that Basham is traded for a 6th or 7th. He got a 5th for Ford….. so anything is possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Wow, wish granted. Out of all the remaining available pass rushers, this is the guy I wanted most. Absolutely amazing signing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I don’t think we can keep all the DE on the roster right? How many do we have, and how many can we keep? Epenesa, Boogie and Shaq must be sweating right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Ngakoue is not better against the run. He is one of the worst in the league. Yea that's a very odd take. Ngakoue SUCKS against the run. It is why a man with his sack production can't stick on a roster for more than a year. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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