TheWeatherMan Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Anyone know if this is going to impact NFL Game Pass subscriptions for us fans not in the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA OC Bills Fan Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 8 hours ago, SoMAn said: question regarding sharing Sunday Ticket for someone with technical knowledge of the service..... Youtube conditions for service stipulate that a subscriber can view the NFLST on 2 devices, only for people who reside in the same household. Is this enforceable? If I want to share a login and password with a neighbor, are there obstacles that Youtube has in place to prevent sharing outside the subscriber residence? What if I want to take my tablet remotely away from the house? Do I have to remain on the same home wi-fi network to receive the streaming from Youtube? Unfortunately, I'm not seeing these questions answered at Youtube's FAQ site. I'm trying to avoid paying $350 for what will amount to only about 5 or 6 games not shown on local Atlanta TV/Peacock. If I can split the cost with a friend it might be worth it. Thanks in advance for any definitive answers. I've had YTTB for the last 2.5 years. It allows 5 logins for family members (I see your comments that it's only two for the Ticket, I'm talking regular YTTV). I use it in Orange County CA, Rochester, Syracuse, and Milwaukee. But to use outside of my home area which is Rochester, each user must login from Rochester every three months. I do this by setting up an email for my family members that's only for YTTV and logging in to YTTV from each of these emails regularly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I just cut the cord with Direct TV. My discounts just expired and it was too expensive. Plus, no NFL ticket. Subscribed to YouTube TV. Prices went up a lot. $72 a month which is about $100 cheaper than my Direct TV. Pretty good savings. Also, signed up for $249 NFL ticket. Supposedly, it's a $100 off promotion until June 6th. Personally, I like the setup of the Direct TV better. Seems easier for a non tech guy like myself. However, YouTube TV doesn't seen daunting. Will take a little getting used to. I can't help but think Direct TV is going to lose a lot of business. The retention department didn't even really try to retain me. Offered me a $50 off for 12 months. Not worth it! Thanks for your help in this matter. A few of you really encouraged me to make the jump. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Krentist Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Pirate Angel said: Does YT give multiple logins like Netflix?...maybe we should align and stick it to the man Be your username... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA OC Bills Fan Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 hours ago, newcam2012 said: I just cut the cord with Direct TV. My discounts just expired and it was too expensive. Plus, no NFL ticket. Subscribed to YouTube TV. Prices went up a lot. $72 a month which is about $100 cheaper than my Direct TV. Pretty good savings. Also, signed up for $249 NFL ticket. Supposedly, it's a $100 off promotion until June 6th. Personally, I like the setup of the Direct TV better. Seems easier for a non tech guy like myself. However, YouTube TV doesn't seen daunting. Will take a little getting used to. I can't help but think Direct TV is going to lose a lot of business. The retention department didn't even really try to retain me. Offered me a $50 off for 12 months. Not worth it! Thanks for your help in this matter. A few of you really encouraged me to make the jump. As I said in other posts, I switched to You Tube TV from DirecTV around 2.5 years ago. I always found it very easy. However, sometimes it does "spin" for a bit and it's almost always much slower to fast forward than with a regular DVR. I think that may have more to do with my Visio TV than my internet connection or You Tube as it works much better with a FireStick. But, it's great service, unlimited cloud DVR, many great channels, and MUCH cheaper than cable or satelite. I think you'll get used to how to use it very quickly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 hours ago, newcam2012 said: I just cut the cord with Direct TV. My discounts just expired and it was too expensive. Plus, no NFL ticket. Subscribed to YouTube TV. Prices went up a lot. $72 a month which is about $100 cheaper than my Direct TV. Pretty good savings. Also, signed up for $249 NFL ticket. Supposedly, it's a $100 off promotion until June 6th. Personally, I like the setup of the Direct TV better. Seems easier for a non tech guy like myself. However, YouTube TV doesn't seen daunting. Will take a little getting used to. I can't help but think Direct TV is going to lose a lot of business. The retention department didn't even really try to retain me. Offered me a $50 off for 12 months. Not worth it! Thanks for your help in this matter. A few of you really encouraged me to make the jump. This has been around for a bit... hope no one paid the $350 full price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 On 4/20/2023 at 5:57 AM, Kirby Jackson said: Yes I switched to YTTV just over a year ago and it was a great decision. can you elaborate what you like about it? local channels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 On 5/24/2023 at 5:32 PM, newcam2012 said: I just cut the cord with Direct TV. My discounts just expired and it was too expensive. Plus, no NFL ticket. Subscribed to YouTube TV. Prices went up a lot. $72 a month which is about $100 cheaper than my Direct TV. Pretty good savings. Also, signed up for $249 NFL ticket. Supposedly, it's a $100 off promotion until June 6th. Personally, I like the setup of the Direct TV better. Seems easier for a non tech guy like myself. However, YouTube TV doesn't seen daunting. Will take a little getting used to. I can't help but think Direct TV is going to lose a lot of business. The retention department didn't even really try to retain me. Offered me a $50 off for 12 months. Not worth it! Thanks for your help in this matter. A few of you really encouraged me to make the jump. I can’t believe Directv was that much. I was paying around 70/ month and hated that. Thought “cutting the cord” was supposed to save money, but it ends up being the same or more. I pay $15 month for Philo Tv, $9 through Netflix (both discounted via T-Mobile) and then $14 for the Disney bundle. Hate the thought of having to go back to $75/ month to sign up for YouTube tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said: I can’t believe Directv was that much. I was paying around 70/ month and hated that. Thought “cutting the cord” was supposed to save money, but it ends up being the same or more. I pay $15 month for Philo Tv, $9 through Netflix (both discounted via T-Mobile) and then $14 for the Disney bundle. Hate the thought of having to go back to $75/ month to sign up for YouTube tv. $75 does seem a bit steep. Direct TVs pricing is really expensive because of the add on fees. Boxes, insurance, taxes, and hi def fee to name a few. The good thing is the convience and ease of using their system. Also, I was always able to get the NFL ticket free or $99 for years. With YouTube TV there is no negotiations that I know of. The price is the price. YouTube TV is pretty easy to get used too. I was a bit apprehensive. Saving some extra cash is never a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 On 5/27/2023 at 1:04 PM, jethro_tull said: can you elaborate what you like about it? local channels? The local works well. It travels with me. Unlimited DVR is another plus. It’s a few dollars more than when I signed up but way cheaper than DirecTV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I may have missed it, but what if you already have YouTube TV? Do they still do blackouts for local games? I don't have any cable/satellite anymore, so it'll be really annoying to have the service I'm paying for block games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 44 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I may have missed it, but what if you already have YouTube TV? Do they still do blackouts for local games? I don't have any cable/satellite anymore, so it'll be really annoying to have the service I'm paying for block games. Blackouts will be no different than they were while on DirecTv. If you live in the viewing area, it will be blacked on on YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted May 29, 2023 Author Share Posted May 29, 2023 On 5/24/2023 at 5:32 PM, newcam2012 said: I just cut the cord with Direct TV. My discounts just expired and it was too expensive. Plus, no NFL ticket. Subscribed to YouTube TV. Prices went up a lot. $72 a month which is about $100 cheaper than my Direct TV. Pretty good savings. Also, signed up for $249 NFL ticket. Supposedly, it's a $100 off promotion until June 6th. Personally, I like the setup of the Direct TV better. Seems easier for a non tech guy like myself. However, YouTube TV doesn't seen daunting. Will take a little getting used to. I can't help but think Direct TV is going to lose a lot of business. The retention department didn't even really try to retain me. Offered me a $50 off for 12 months. Not worth it! Thanks for your help in this matter. A few of you really encouraged me to make the jump. Sounds like my call with them. I said no sunday ticket and I get free basic cable in new home. With as many games that will be on national TV not gonna sign up for the ticket package. I need to do the free trial of YouTube tv wondering if I can pause live sports since I really prefer synching Bills radio broadcast with the video! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Xwnyer said: Sounds like my call with them. I said no sunday ticket and I get free basic cable in new home. With as many games that will be on national TV not gonna sign up for the ticket package. I need to do the free trial of YouTube tv wondering if I can pause live sports since I really prefer synching Bills radio broadcast with the video! The DVR on YouTube tv is as good as any cable/sattelite service with a box. You should have no problem synching it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted May 29, 2023 Author Share Posted May 29, 2023 11 hours ago, Doc Brown said: The DVR on YouTube tv is as good as any cable/sattelite service with a box. You should have no problem synching it. I plan on watching on YouTube since don’t have YouTube TV hope the pause function is available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 On 4/22/2023 at 9:43 AM, RichRiderBills said: I've never understood NFLs model here. First off, the NFL should be their own network ( they literally already have this) The should have a stream service ( Again they have this) Charge folks less, make it grow, and profit more by running it. Or NFL should sell non exclusive deals with many people and several sources. Sell rights to Xfinity , Amazon, YouTube, DTV, Dish, etc .. Let the above run PPV games ala carte. Let them all get the service for a non exclusive price. They would make more this way and continue to grow the sport and viewers. The exclusive rights deal is lazy. Bad corporate model and extremely risky. It's been bad for the NFL. The only caveat is RedZone, which is farmed out apart from Sunday ticket, and run well. RedZone is the standard. i agree ive said it numerous times. You make it available on all platforms like how season packages are for other sports leagues and the cost is about 1/3 it is now they will bring in more than they got from YouTube. You can also sell individual team packages. You have a high cost PPV to get individual games just like direct tv, I’m not switching to you tube to get the package this season based on the schedule release. There are 3 games I won’t be able to get. Vegas and both cheats games. Dallas is a maybe because it’s not a clear east/west split with Philadelphia in the slot. The peacock game I could pay to get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Can someone explain to me if I have to sign up for the YouTube TV at 78 whatever dollars a month in order to sign up for the NFL Sunday ticket or do I have to do both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Can someone explain to me if I have to sign up for the YouTube TV at 78 whatever dollars a month in order to sign up for the NFL Sunday ticket or do I have to do both? I believe the answer is no, ya can get it with out you Tube TV but it costs more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On 5/24/2023 at 8:41 PM, TheWeatherMan said: Anyone know if this is going to impact NFL Game Pass subscriptions for us fans not in the US? I'm getting this message in Game Pass - "NFL Game Pass International will have a new home for the 2023 season. If you are looking to subscribe for the 2023 season, please check back here, or look out for an email from us soon for further details. If you are currently a subscriber and are looking to watch NFL Draft April 27 to April 29, the live stream can be accessed via the Game Pass International homepage during that time. If you are not a subscriber currently and are looking to watch NFL Draft, please see the table here for local listings by country." I think there could be changes a foot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Can someone explain to me if I have to sign up for the YouTube TV at 78 whatever dollars a month in order to sign up for the NFL Sunday ticket or do I have to do both? You can bundle NFL Sunday Ticket together with a YouTube TV subscription, or purchase as a standalone Primetime Channel on YouTube. The NFL games you'll get depend on the package you choose. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/12769543?sjid=13405091786317741485-NA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 On 5/28/2023 at 7:44 PM, Beast said: Blackouts will be no different than they were while on DirecTv. If you live in the viewing area, it will be blacked on on YouTube. But I am assuming the game would be broadcast on the local channel and viewable in the YTTV App on that local channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 On 5/28/2023 at 7:44 PM, Beast said: Blackouts will be no different than they were while on DirecTv. If you live in the viewing area, it will be blacked on on YouTube. what blackouts are you referring to.? NFL doesn't blackout games anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, nucci said: what blackouts are you referring to.? NFL doesn't blackout games anymore. If a game is shown locally are blacked out on the Sunday ticket. All games shown on local television in your area will not be shown on Sunday Ticket. 3 hours ago, Xwnyer said: But I am assuming the game would be broadcast on the local channel and viewable in the YTTV App on that local channel. I would assume so. Just like DirecTv had those games on local stations. Edited May 31, 2023 by Beast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 33 minutes ago, Beast said: If a game is shown locally are blacked out on the Sunday ticket. All games shown on local television in your area will not be shown on Sunday Ticket. ahh, right. Sorry. Misunderstood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I can't believe it, but for the first time in decades I will not be getting Sunday Ticket. My schedule analysis is that there will only be 4 games I will need ST for - weeks 2, 3, 4 and 7. Not counting the last 2 games as at least one should get flexed. Anyway, can't justify the price for 4 games. Might travel for one of them anyway. For those 4 weeks I guess now I'll have to learn how some of you have been getting the games for free😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, HurlyBurly51 said: I can't believe it, but for the first time in decades I will not be getting Sunday Ticket. My schedule analysis is that there will only be 4 games I will need ST for - weeks 2, 3, 4 and 7. Not counting the last 2 games as at least one should get flexed. Anyway, can't justify the price for 4 games. Might travel for one of them anyway. For those 4 weeks I guess now I'll have to learn how some of you have been getting the games for free😎 Find a friend who has YTTV in WNY use one of the multiple,IDs allowed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Caved and signed up for YouTube tv today to get the extra $100 subscriber Sunday ticket discount. Then promptly paused it for 3 months until the NFL season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 On 5/24/2023 at 2:32 PM, newcam2012 said: I just cut the cord with Direct TV. My discounts just expired and it was too expensive. Plus, no NFL ticket. Subscribed to YouTube TV. Prices went up a lot. $72 a month which is about $100 cheaper than my Direct TV. Pretty good savings. Also, signed up for $249 NFL ticket. Supposedly, it's a $100 off promotion until June 6th. Personally, I like the setup of the Direct TV better. Seems easier for a non tech guy like myself. However, YouTube TV doesn't seen daunting. Will take a little getting used to. I can't help but think Direct TV is going to lose a lot of business. The retention department didn't even really try to retain me. Offered me a $50 off for 12 months. Not worth it! Thanks for your help in this matter. A few of you really encouraged me to make the jump. About to do the same. Already added YouTube TV with The Ticket to get the good deal. Need to finish watching some things on Direct TV DVR then I’ll cancel them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 On 5/31/2023 at 6:44 PM, Xwnyer said: Find a friend who has YTTV in WNY use one of the multiple,IDs allowed So multiple people on said account could watch Sunday ticket at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 On 4/20/2023 at 5:57 AM, newcam2012 said: That doesn't seem like a deal to me. I'm going to miss the days of getting the ticket for free or $99. To boot, YouTube tv prices are going up. The sports package I like is around $72 a month. I suspect prices with continue to go up. Right now, I still have DTV with discounts applied. Still paying more than $72 a month. Decisions decisions. I hate changing over as I'm an old dinasour. Maybe my kids can find a nice bootleg way to watch the games with a VPN. Not my style but I wanna watch my Bills games. However, I suspect the Bills with have quite a few nationally televised games too. Direct TV was a terrible service though. Most of us wouldn’t change providers -even if it meant getting the Sunday Ticket, so I’m pumped for YouTubeTV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 I went with the stand-alone Sunday ticket/red zone package. YTTV doesn’t carry Bally sports which carries all the Cardinals and Blues games here in St Louis. I could get by without but an absolute must for the rest of the family. So when I look at switching, I’d still have to get Bally via another sub and it ends up costing more than I pay now for DTV. As much as people complain about DTV, I never paid full price for ST Max in 11 years, usually free or at least 75% off at worst. Also would call every year and get steep discounts on tv package in general. So this switch just means I have to fork over $389 for the ST/red zone package and have to show the family how to access it differently this year. Not gonna complain too much - that’s still not bad as we’ve got 3 nfl teams we follow and this assures we’ll get every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 7 hours ago, letsgoteam said: So multiple people on said account could watch Sunday ticket at the same time? Mot sure with ST but YTTV accounts support 5 devices. My buddies kids use it while away at school and he uses it at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jukester said: I went with the stand-alone Sunday ticket/red zone package. YTTV doesn’t carry Bally sports which carries all the Cardinals and Blues games here in St Louis. I could get by without but an absolute must for the rest of the family. So when I look at switching, I’d still have to get Bally via another sub and it ends up costing more than I pay now for DTV. As much as people complain about DTV, I never paid full price for ST Max in 11 years, usually free or at least 75% off at worst. Also would call every year and get steep discounts on tv package in general. So this switch just means I have to fork over $389 for the ST/red zone package and have to show the family how to access it differently this year. Not gonna complain too much - that’s still not bad as we’ve got 3 nfl teams we follow and this assures we’ll get every game. I agree about getting the ticket at a discounted price. Often you could get it free as well. I will miss that for sure. I'd add that DTV was pretty easy to use and I really didn't have any major issues. Nevertheless, YTTV still is a lot cheaper even paying full price for the NFL ticket. Edited June 2, 2023 by newcam2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Has anyone used NFL+ for streaming games? I am not getting Sunday ticket because so many games are not available but might get game pass to watch all the primetime games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbillsfan Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Just returned my Direct TV equipment this afternoon. Went with YTTV & ST. Saved over $100/ month. Rep tried to keep me but as a longtime subscriber was grandfathered in with coverage no longer offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 4 hours ago, newcam2012 said: I agree about getting the ticket at a discounted price. Often you could get it free as well. I will miss that for sure. I'd add that DTV was pretty easy to use and I really didn't have any major issues. Nevertheless, YTTV still is a lot cheaper even paying full price for the NFL ticket. Not really cheaper for me. Paying $105 for DTV including regional sports channels and I get HBO for free. I believe it would be at least that much for YTTV for similar package. But I know people’s miles vary with DTV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jukester said: Not really cheaper for me. Paying $105 for DTV including regional sports channels and I get HBO for free. I believe it would be at least that much for YTTV for similar package. But I know people’s miles vary with DTV. Wow $105 for DTV is a really good price. I was paying around $175 a month once my 12 months discounts ended. I paid for additional boxes, insurance for broken equipment, high def feed, added taxes and fees, DVR genie service, etc... You tube is $73 flat. I added a free trial 4k and unlimited DVR service. It's $10 a month extra. Not sure I will continue it. I added it because my wife was watching a show she supposedly recorded the same day. She fell asleep and when she woke up she was unable to watch it. The system for some reason would allow it. Then when I added that free trial she was able to watch it. Anyone know what might have happened? I don't have a 4k capatable tv. Hoping I don't need the service. Any help is appreciated. Edited June 3, 2023 by newcam2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Wow $105 for DTV is a really good price. I was paying around $175 a month once my 12 months discounts ended. I paid for additional boxes, insurance for broken equipment, high def feed, added taxes and fees, DVR genie service, etc... You tube is $73 flat. I added a free trail 4k and unlimited DVR service. It's $10 a month extra. Not sure I will continue it. I added it because my wife was watching a show she supposedly recorded the same day. She fell asleep and when she woke up she was unable to watch it. The system for some reason would allow it. Then when I added that free trial she was able to watch it. Anyone know what might have happened? I don't have a 4k capatable tv. Hoping I don't need the service. Any help is appreciated. Yes it is quite a deal. At $175 I’d be out in a heartbeat. I call every 12 months (sometimes more often) and get re-upped with discounts continually. I’m due in July again. Hopefully things don’t change too much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Ironically, after pining for Sunday Ticket for 20 plus years, now that I can finally get it, I think I might pass. I may get the YTTV sports package (10.99 a month) which has a bunch of crap I don't care about...but it has RedZone. I am not sure how much I would actually even use it, but so many swear it is the greatest innovation in NFL viewing. I personally like just focusing on one game...but we shall see. Reason I am thinking of passing on Sunday Ticket is not only the money, but I feel like I am bound to get somewhere between 7-12 Bills games without it. I can go to the Backers bar (which I enjoy, been doing for 30 years) if I can't watch at home. I will likely re-up on NFL +. True, you can't watch games live, but I like rewatching Bills games during the week, in smaller chunks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 You’ve cut cable. So what’s the best course of action for out of market Bills fans knowing we’re getting 7-10 “primetime” or national games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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