Beane again showing why he is a top GM

[nedboy7]

I am confused.  I thought we sucked cause of coaching.  Now its the players we acquire.   

So either the players suck and the coaching staff is pretty decent.

Or the coaches and GM are incompetent and the players somehow keep making the playoffs? 

Or they all suck and the fans are getting us into the playoffs with their game day thread acumen. 

[HardyBoy]

25 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

I will reserve judgement until I see a good draft…

 

If Luke had to confront Vader in order to become a Jedi- the draft is Beane’s “Vader”…😉

 

Luke didn't have to face Vader to become a Jedi, he had to face himself and the fear that he might behind Vader if he didn't learn to stay calm and within himself and follow his process, while looking for opportunities to self reflect and continue improving... basically that's my interpretation...external pressures are what would lead to the dark side basically.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

13 minutes ago, Draconator said:

The best thing you can do is ignore him. Lord knows I've gone after him, but he just keeps coming back with the same old crap. Just ignore him and he will dry up like a glass of water in the dessert. 

 

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

You’re right-  I had him on ignore and was caught at a moment of weakness to see how ignorant is post would be-  lo and behold.  

 

 Ignore, ignore, Ignore! Do not reply!!! Him and a few other are just not worth the headache that follows.😂

 

 

 

[bmur66]

Uh. Did anyone notice there is still a huge gaping hole at linebacker, no workhorse running back and questions at WR2. How about backup d-line? I will reserve judgment. 

[Solomon Grundy]

32 minutes ago, Success said:

What he has done so far is like a magic trick. This team was WAY over cap just a week ago.  Yes, a lot of contracts were set up to restructure. But we've signed a speedy receiver, a solid starter at guard and re-signed Poyer.  We didn't overpay for Edmunds, and still have some space to bring in a LB, a RB, or possibly both.  We have also retained key role players like Dane Jackson, Martin and Dodson.

 

Personally, I'm much more optimistic about 2023 than I was just a few weeks ago.  And we still have the draft ahead of us.  He DOES need to nail this draft, but I'm just feeling good about the whole deal.

 

It's good to have a capable GM. They're not plentiful in this league, and at worst, everything Beane does is well thought-out, and in line w/ a true vision for what this team needs to be.

 

ENTER @Airseven😎

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

All things considering I think I’m fairly happy with what we have done on D. It does come with some risk with regards to our safeties age but I feel if they can stay healthy it’s a better solution than the alternative. Hyde and Poyer just work so well together and I’m not sold on what we have behind them for a whole season. I’m ready to roll without Edmunds and see where it takes us.

Anyone but Saffold is a step up so it seems we could be relatively set with the starting oline and go after it more in the draft. It Really would be good if Spencer can improve his game or bring in some competition. 

 

In my opinion for this to be successful for Beane  I would now focus my attention back to the Offense. Beane  should look to grab another Wr to take the pressure off Diggs. I don’t want to be signing guys off the street come playoff time.

 

I wonder if he will look to sign another back before the draft as well..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 15, 2023 by loveorhatembillsfan4life

[Einstein]

4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

And we also pushed $50 mil salary down the road..

 

Great point.

[Toyo321]

Beane has not done anything to write home about. Nothing special at all.  There were some major moves by other teams yesterday and today that also improved these teams more than what we have done so far in FA.  Time will tell after we see where everything lies after FA ends and after the draft.  We still have not officially even addressed the DC job, that I hope is filled by some one else other than McD.  We need a new influx of coaching insight when the D scheme is concerned, for us to to compete at a higher level this upcoming season.  We played like crap in the playoffs on D this year.  Yeah we had injuries but we played really bad down the stretch.  We need a serious vetting on the D scheme this year.  It has not paid off as McD and Beane expected it too, for the past 5 seasons. this D has been paper tigers only. 

 

Our D is all bark and no bite when we faced the better teams this past season.

Edited March 16, 2023 by Toyo321

[wppete]

I think Beane is going to fill the MLB position in the 1st round. Either Trenton Simpson, Clemson or Jack Campbell, Iowa. 

[Shanahan's Horseshoe]

 

[B-Man]

1 minute ago, wppete said:

I think Beane is going to fill the MLB position in the 1st round. Either Trenton Simpson, Clemson or Jack Campbell, Iowa. 

 

 

But we can't have a young guy playing our middle linebacker.

 

 

 

Oh wait, that's what we have done for 5 years.

[Radar]

Well way over the cap and restructuring was not genius. Frankly you could argue if cap management was that good to begin with. Also to judge the off season at this point is premature. What we are waiting for is solid moves/draft to address obvious needs. Then we'll be able to grade how well our GM has done. One thing I am concerned with is I think Miami has gained on us and wth Rogers in New York it could be argued the Jets may now be the division favorites. In short our GM has work to do before we're giving him accolades.

[whorlnut]

39 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

I'll trade 2 1st round picks for Andy Reed

As long as he can coach as well as Andy Reid then I’m all for it!

[BullBuchanan]

14 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

And we also pushed $50 mil salary down the road..

That's not really impressive. All teams do that.

[NewEra]

14 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said:

 

That was a back-and-forth game decided by four points. Both teams had leads at various points of the game and the Bills scored the go-ahead TD with 1:04 left in the game. Bills hardly went to KC and "smacked" them. They went in, got the job done and left. Don't make it out as if the Bills won by 2-3 td's.

Yup- and we won with our roster (minus Tre). Someone said it wasn’t good enough- but it was.  We suffered significant injuries-  the other team didn’t

[BullBuchanan]

6 minutes ago, wppete said:

I think Beane is going to fill the MLB position in the 1st round. Either Trenton Simpson, Clemson or Jack Campbell, Iowa. 

Those are my two picks. Simpson was the guy to me if we kept the same defense. He has the athelticism to replace Edmunds.

If we change scheme a bit with Frazier gone, maybe there could be a good fit for Campbell.

[Virgil]

While I appreciate the positivity, and I’m a big front office fan, I can’t congratulate anyone yet.  
 

One Guard does not change the offensive line to give Josh the extra second he needs.  We need at least 1-2 more guys up front.   
 

Yes, we added speed guy, but there’s no telling if he will be utilized the right way and he’s definitely not a WR2.   With McK and Shakir, I wonder how he fits.  
 

We still have a hole at MLB to fill.  
 

Now, I’m not doom and gloom as FA just started and there’s plenty of time and options left.  But I’m just not there for the circle jerk just yet 

[Airseven]

The cap is merely a suggestion. Every GM manipulates it. 

 

More to the point, the product that Beane has put on the field is going in the wrong direction. 

[wppete]

3 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

But we can't have a young guy playing our middle linebacker.

 

 

 

Oh wait, that's what we have done for 5 years.

 

Trenton Simpson looks legit. 6’3 230. Ran a 4.43 40.
 

 

[Virgil]

6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Gross… another 1st round LB when this team still has holes offensively? 
 

Trade the pick for Jeudy…..Then we can all get on our knees for Beane.

We get Jeudy, I’ll hold his balls while you get the shaft 

[Success]

19 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

What part of what he's done here isn't run of the mill?

For me to be impressed he'd have to show me something that someone else couldn't do or something someone else didn't know. He paid a lot of money so far to two players without super impressive resumes, including a receiver with 793 career yards and 4 touchdowns over 4 seasons.

 

I mean, to answer the bolded "in general" - I'd challenge anyone to name 3-4 teams that are actually better than the Bills right now.

 

That's better than run of the mill. And as far as this offseason, I expected almost nothing, given our cap situation.  If he signs a LB w/ what we have left - we basically go into the draft without any real "needs."

 

[ngbills]

49 minutes ago, Success said:

What he has done so far is like a magic trick. This team was WAY over cap just a week ago.  Yes, a lot of contracts were set up to restructure. But we've signed a speedy receiver, a solid starter at guard and re-signed Poyer.  We didn't overpay for Edmunds, and still have some space to bring in a LB, a RB, or possibly both.  We have also retained key role players like Dane Jackson, Martin and Dodson.

 

Personally, I'm much more optimistic about 2023 than I was just a few weeks ago.  And we still have the draft ahead of us.  He DOES need to nail this draft, but I'm just feeling good about the whole deal.

 

It's good to have a capable GM. They're not plentiful in this league, and at worst, everything Beane does is well thought-out, and in line w/ a true vision for what this team needs to be.

 

Is it April 1st? 

[Bronxbomber21]

4 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

As long as he can coach as well as Andy Reid then I’m all for it!

My phone auto corrected 😞 

[Success]

18 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

ENTER @Airseven😎

 

Well, I did get the vomit emoji. Good call.

 

[BullBuchanan]

2 minutes ago, Success said:

 

I mean, to answer the bolded "in general" - I'd challenge anyone to name 3-4 teams that are actually better than the Bills right now.

 

That's better than run of the mill. And as far as this offseason, I expected almost nothing, given our cap situation.  If he signs a LB w/ what we have left - we basically go into the draft without any real "needs."

 

Chiefs, Eagles, 49ers, Bengals

I didn't say the Bills were run of the mill though. I said, what has Beane done this offseason that wasn't run of the mill?

The bills had tons of cap room, it just had to be unearthed through restructures. None of that takes a genius. It's just operational business moves that any GM would have done and was likely the plan when the original deals were signed.

[harmonkillebrew]

top GM? magician? sorcerer? idk.... sounds like OBD planted some trolls here.... he did what most analysts said he should do.  Letting Edmunds go at that price was prudent, and not letting Poyer also walk was smart. Harty's contract is a little too rich.  

 

Where he really needs to hit is the draft, which has been his weakness. We'll see how that pans out.

 

Also curious to see how he fills RB and ILB needs. 

[MAJBobby]

There is a reason he is talked about yearly as Executive of the Year. 

[Success]

Just now, BullBuchanan said:

Chiefs, Eagles, 49ers, Bengals

I didn't say the Bills were run of the mill though. I said, what has Beane done this offseason that wasn't run of the mill?

The bills had tons of cap room, it just had to be unearthed through restructures. None of that takes a genius. It's just operational business moves that any GM would have done and was likely the plan when the original deals were signed.

 

I'd question that list.  We beat the Chiefs.  I think we'd beat the Eagles and Niners.

 

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, Success said:

 

I'd question that list.  We beat the Chiefs.  I think we'd beat the Eagles and Niners.

 

The Chiefs won the Super Bowl...

The Bills aren't even in the same tier as those two teams in the SB last year. I don't think we're int he same tier as the top 4 teams.

Edited March 15, 2023 by BullBuchanan

[ngbills]

2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Chiefs, Eagles, 49ers, Bengals

I didn't say the Bills were run of the mill though. I said, what has Beane done this offseason that wasn't run of the mill?

The bills had tons of cap room, it just had to be unearthed through restructures. None of that takes a genius. It's just operational business moves that any GM would have done and was likely the plan when the original deals were signed.

Better question is - take way Josh Allen and how many teams are we better than? This supporting cast is getting weaker. 

[Success]

Just now, BullBuchanan said:

The Chiefs won the Super Bowl...

The Bills aren't even in the same tier as those two teams in the SB last year. I don't think we're int he same tier as the top 4 teams.

 

The stars aligned at the right time for the Chiefs.  It doesn't mean they're a better team than the Bills.

 

The better team doesn't ALWAYS win the SB.  NFL history has taught us that.  A lot is getting hot at the right time, and getting some breaks.

 

[Augie]

56 minutes ago, Success said:

What he has done so far is like a magic trick. This team was WAY over cap just a week ago.  Yes, a lot of contracts were set up to restructure. But we've signed a speedy receiver, a solid starter at guard and re-signed Poyer.  We didn't overpay for Edmunds, and still have some space to bring in a LB, a RB, or possibly both.  We have also retained key role players like Dane Jackson, Martin and Dodson.

 

Personally, I'm much more optimistic about 2023 than I was just a few weeks ago.  And we still have the draft ahead of us.  He DOES need to nail this draft, but I'm just feeling good about the whole deal.

 

It's good to have a capable GM. They're not plentiful in this league, and at worst, everything Beane does is well thought-out, and in line w/ a true vision for what this team needs to be.

 

 

I mean….at least he wasn’t napping. That’s worth something, right?     😋

[BullBuchanan]

2 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Better question is - take way Josh Allen and how many teams are we better than? This supporting cast is getting weaker. 

If you replace Allen with a league average qb, say Daniel Jones - I think we're a bottom half team

Edited March 15, 2023 by BullBuchanan

[Billl]

30 minutes ago, NewEra said:

2 days = meh.

Our roster was good enough. We smacked the chiefs with the roster- in KC.  Without tredavious.  But yeah.  
 

injuries happened.  And if injuries to key players happens again, the same will likely happen.  
 

The chiefs remained injury free- it’s one of the reasons they won the SB.  

Injuries aren’t random, though.  Older players are more likely to get injured than younger players.  Players who have had major injury issues in the past are more likely to get injured than players who haven’t.  

 

Beane signed Von Miller last year.  He was 33 years old and had experienced 2 major injuries in the past.  He got injured again.  Now Beane has let a 25 year old LB with no major injury history walk while signing an injury prone WR and re-signing a 32 year old Safety to play alongside a 33 year old Safety.  The Bills were the 8th oldest team last season, and they’ve gotten older in FA.  They had the best roster last year when fully healthy, but that didn’t last.  It’s a calculated risk that didn’t pay off last year.  We’ll see if it does in 2023.

[SoCal Deek]

It seems to me that so far Beane has done the absolute minimum he could do this offseason. To date he’s simply restructured contracts for existing players and agreed to a bunch of special team filler slots. Is there anything LESS he could’ve done? Not a criticism….just reality.

[Paup 1995MVP]

29 minutes ago, Eastport bills said:

I see this as a good start,but at the same time we should realize those restructures are pushing the cap limitations down the road. I don’t really care because we’re in a win now mentality. The reality is the state of our team is still weaker than at seasons end. Losing Edmunds, Singletary, Keemun leaves us having to replace productive vital position players. Now the FA signings have been really important but more work to do.

Why even bring up Keenum?  He was terrible in the preseason.  And fortunately did not have to play important minutes in the regular season.  

 

Every team loses players.  I for one am not too distressed that Edmunds will be in Chi Town.  He may never be heard from again.  As far as Singletary.  So what!  This team runs thru #17.  That is what makes us tick.  

 

That being said, we need to be much better this season on the O line.  And need more weapons on offense.  Lets see how free agency and the draft play out.  But nothing to be doing cartwheels about yet.  Although keeping Poyer is huge for the defense and the psyche of the team.  

[JaCrispy]

39 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

Damn, he writes rather well for a ten year old!!

He goes to a local charter school…😉

37 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:

 

Luke didn't have to face Vader to become a Jedi, he had to face himself and the fear that he might behind Vader if he didn't learn to stay calm and within himself and follow his process, while looking for opportunities to self reflect and continue improving... basically that's my interpretation...external pressures are what would lead to the dark side basically.

Is that you, Brandon? 😉

[NewEra]

11 minutes ago, Billl said:

Injuries aren’t random, though.  Older players are more likely to get injured than younger players.  Players who have had major injury issues in the past are more likely to get injured than players who haven’t.  

 

Beane signed Von Miller last year.  He was 33 years old and had experienced 2 major injuries in the past.  He got injured again.  Now Beane has let a 25 year old LB with no major injury history walk while signing an injury prone WR and re-signing a 32 year old Safety to play alongside a 33 year old Safety.  The Bills were the 8th oldest team last season, and they’ve gotten older in FA.  They had the best roster last year when fully healthy, but that didn’t last.  It’s a calculated risk that didn’t pay off last year.  We’ll see if it does in 2023.

Yeah…:injuries aren’t random.  Look up how many games hyde, Poyer and tredavious missed prior to 2021.  How many games had Ed and Daquan missed? How about Rousseau?  You’re talking about one guy, Von Miller   I stopped reading after that.  You’re a troll.
 

 

[Jerboski]

22 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Better question is - take way Josh Allen and how many teams are we better than? This supporting cast is getting weaker. 

Nailed it 

 

stop investing so much capital (draft and cap money) on insignificant defensive positions (safeties and linebacker) 

 

running it back is not the answer, Josh Allen played a miracle game against the chiefs and the defense still couldnt get the job done, fast forward a year and they couldnt stop a third string Miami QB or joe burrow 

 

invest in the offense, period 

[Chaos]

25 minutes ago, Success said:

The better team doesn't ALWAYS win the SB.  NFL history has taught us that.

The team that wins the Super Bowl is the best team. Definitions have taught us that.