balln Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 What a panic move by McD. Wonder what wisdom this LB coach from Carolina can offer https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/08/bills-to-hire-al-holcomb-as-senior-defensive-assistant/ 1 5 7 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Championship 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 I wish there was not a Carolina connection. It really begs the question - are you only comfortable hiring guys you already know? 8 4 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 I mean ….. your head HC is a defensive coach. You don’t fire your DC….. so why hire a senior defensive coach????? It’s bizarre Don’t need a bandaid ! Need an overhaul ! 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Another Carolina connection. McBeane really have a tough time going out of their circle / comfort zone. 3 2 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 They’re getting caught up in their myopic world. Can’t see the forest through the trees 1 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, Process said: Another Carolina connection. McBeane really have a tough time going out of their circle / comfort zone. Where was this comment when they fired a coach who had been on staff since 2017 and replaced him with Joe Danna who has no connection to McBeane? 😂 4 2 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Who Al Holcomb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 What does a senior defensive assistant do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 Feel like McD and beane have peaked. This reeks of desperation. This upcoming year will be the test. It’s AFC championship or bust. And that’s really sad to say. Should be Super Bowl or bust 6 2 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Another Panther… 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, Chaos said: What does a senior defensive assistant do? Replace Frazier when he leaves 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trust The Process Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Band Camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, Chaos said: What does a senior defensive assistant do? It’s just a way of accepting a nice guy (Frazier) who’s doing a mediocre job and saying we’re good (when we’re not) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, nucci said: Al Holcomb Again who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Again who? I can repeat his name but that would seem redundant. He finished the season as Panthers DC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 Hey remember beane traded for kelvin benjamin! Hahahahahhahahahahhahaha 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Again who? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Holcomb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Will he be in charge of calling defensive timeouts, that are followed by giving up a big play, or will McDermott still have that responsibility? 1 17 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Here is what I believe they desperately wanted to add Steve Wilkes to the staff the 49ers gave him an offer he couldn’t refuse…Bills went with plan B his defensive coordinator 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Let’s gooooo! the EXACT missing piece to get us over the hump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 Beane traded for a Carolina panther kelvin Benjamin for a 3rd and a 7th on a rebuilding team and then released him the very next year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) Whaddya say Al? Shall we press on? Edited February 9, 2023 by That's No Moon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Where was this comment when they fired a coach who had been on staff since 2017 and replaced him with Joe Danna who has no connection to McBeane? 😂 All the Carolina connected moved they have made over the years and you come back with one positional coach that got replaced? Where were the comments? People have been talking about it for 5 years lmao. Congrats though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKemp Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Well to me this is a move to add a new voice and outsider who may have some fresh eyes on our defensive system. It may also mean Frazier is on his way out by next year. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 If we joined the ‘72 Dolphins as the only other undefeated team and SB Champs, our strength of schedule would be too weak, and our point differential would be disappointing. With some….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JackKemp said: Well to me this is a move to add a new voice and outsider who may have some fresh eyes on our defensive system. It may also mean Frazier is on his way out by next year. I'll take either one. From what I heard, Frazier's contract was up this year, so they signed a 1 year extension or something of the sort if he might be done after next year. Edited February 9, 2023 by Billz4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, Augie said: If we joined the ‘72 Dolphins as the only other undefeated team and SB Champs, our strength of schedule would be too weak, and our point differential would be disappointing. With some….. After we get a Lombardi we will see how much complaining there is. More likely, it’s that we won’t accept just getting to the dance anymore. With Josh Allen, that’s not enough. Sorry guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Wow! I can’t believe the emphatic negativity about a guy nobody knows much about. He may end up being a good addition to the staff. None of us is in a position to know otherwise. 4 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 48 minutes ago, Chaos said: What does a senior defensive assistant do? He supervises the junior defensive assistant lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I'm not sure why people would have a problem with this. It's not like he is the new DC or HC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: I'm not sure why people would have a problem with this. It's not like he is the new DC or HC. It’s a sign that they felt like they had to do something…. Create a new position. If you’re satisfied w your coaches then ride w them. If you’re not then get rid of them. This is a sidewise / half hearted move. Which is exactly how they play / coach / adjust in big games. Half measured 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 This reeks of desperation and an absolute ignorance about the root of their defensive woes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 What a toxic place this has become. Yikes. Fresh air and grass would do some of y’all some good. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JGMcD2 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Process said: All the Carolina connected moved they have made over the years and you come back with one positional coach that got replaced? Where were the comments? People have been talking about it for 5 years lmao. Congrats though. You made the comment they have a tough time going out of their comfort zone/circle with the Carolina connection. You really want me to do this? The Bills have 26 members listed under their coaching staff (not including McDermott)… Al Holcomb will be #27. These are the guys who crossed over in Carolina (6): Ken Dorsey Bobby Babich Mike Shula Eric Washington Matt Worswick Al Holcomb These are the guys who don’t have any Carolina connection (21): Leslie Frazier Matthew Smiley Rob Boras Joe Brady John Butler Joe Danna Chad Hall Aaron Kromer Jaylon Finner Austin Gund Cory Harkey Marc Lubick Kyle Shurmur Kelly Skipper Ryan Wendell Marcus West Eric Ciano Will Greenberg Hal Luther Nick Lacy Jason Oszvart Looking at the front office quick… they have 9 people with VP, Director or Assistant Director titles in football operations. No Carolina connection (9): Jim Overdorf Kevin Meganck Brian Gaine Terrance Gray Malik Boyd Matt Bazirgan Lake Dawson Chris Marrow Curtus Rukavina So what? 36 people across coaching and football operations and 6 of them have ties to Carolina. Could also point to people like Dan Morgan (SEA), Joe Schoen (NYG) and Brian Daboll (NYG) as guys outside their comfort zone who were brought in to fill roles on the staff. There’s also David Culley, Bobby Johnson, Shea Tierney, Bob Babich, Jim Salgado, Danny Crossman and Heath Farwell. Edited February 9, 2023 by JGMcD2 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: You made the comment they have a tough time going out of their comfort zone/circle with the Carolina connection. You really want me to do this? The Bills have 26 members listed under their coaching staff (not including McDermott)… Al Holcomb will be #27. These are the guys who crossed over in Carolina (6): Ken Dorsey Bobby Babich Mike Shula Eric Washington Matt Worswick Al Holcomb These are the guys who don’t have any Carolina connection (21): Leslie Frazier Matthew Smiley Rob Boras Joe Brady John Butler Joe Danna Chad Hall Aaron Kromer Jaylon Finner Austin Gund Cory Harkey Marc Lubick Kyle Shurmur Kelly Skipper Ryan Wendell Marcus West Eric Ciano Will Greenberg Hal Luther Nick Lacy Jason Oszvart Looking at the front office quick… they have 9 people with VP, Director or Assistant Director titles in football operations. No Carolina connection (9): Jim Overdorf Kevin Meganck Brian Gaine Terrance Gray Malik Boyd Matt Bazirgan Lake Dawson Chris Marrow Curtus Rukavina So what? 36 people across coaching and football operations and 6 of them have ties to Carolina. Could also point to people like Dan Morgan (SEA), Joe Schoen (NYG) and Brian Daboll (NYG) as guys outside their comfort zone who were brought in to fill roles on the staff. GTFO here with your damn facts! Just light my torch and shut up! 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleSammy Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I will be delighted if our new DC Assistant does nothing more than implement a strategy that results in our opponents not turning their 3rd and longs into 1st downs. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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