Johnnycage46 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, jcamm1966 said: McD has no imprint on this team he is just the CEO that does PR and claps, Dorsey runs the offense no accountability , Frasier does the Defense no accountability. So why is he even here. Other coaches are involved with players om the sideline talking making adj but not him. He's he to give glory to god and to tell us that it's hard to win and the NFL. Oh, and that it starts with him. And that he's proud of his team for battling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, Cray51 said: Can you blame them after the Hamlin situation? I’d be emotionless too Great coaches use that as motivation.....we have e had nothing but heart wrench in this city and just enough heartache with this coaching staff....this isn't a young team....if they can't get motivated by now they never will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jamone said: Not pulling the trigger on mccafferry was this teams biggest mistake. 🫡 Why we don't run the ball nearly enough or pass/screen passes to RB's enough to warrant adding him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said: I disagree. Our RB's are to small. Our O line has only one above average player. The rest are below average. For crying out loud on a snow covered field the Bengal managed to get hurries on Allen on almost half his drop backs! And our offensive skill players? We have one great WR the rest are below average. Over the course of this season I had blinders on because we were winning. I didn't want to recognize the fundamental issues that my eyes were seeing. We won 13 games primarily because of the elite play of our QB and WR#1. I comforted myself in our defensive rankings. We couldn't be bad because we were a top 5 unit by almost every measure. Yet in to many games the D seemed to melt away at critical moments giving up game changing plays and drives. Think about today. After coming out flat and letting the Bengal's jump out to a 14 - 0 lead we cut their lead to 14 - 7 and how does the D respond? They allow an 8 minute drive that only ends in a FG and not a TD because of a great play by Millano on the ball. Then after we use up half the 3rd quarter to again cut the Cincy lead to one score our D gives up a long TD drive that uses up most of the rest of the 3rd quarter to go up 24 - 10. Our OL and RB's showed the ability every time they were given the chance to run and run well. They hurried Allen because they were blitzing DB's offf the edge. Something we seldom do, much like running the ball. I'm not saying Dawkins and Brown were great but they weren't the overall problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Lost said: I don't want to hear talk of paying another RB of any caliber until we are heavily invested in at least 2 to 3 stud OLinemen Yeah... Like the Bengals stud backups😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryS Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 the move was to outbid the Rams for Von Miller last year. but yes, we need to improve at WR, OL, and stop investing so much in the D for minimal gains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Similar price for A.J. Brown was a bigger mistake. This. This was the move we should have made. Not a RB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamone Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Punch said: If the Bills had McCaffrey the final score would’ve been 27-17 Better than 27-10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said: We won't so long as the rest of the conference keeps improving. We'll be lucky to win the division next year if the Dolphins don't go on losing streaks and the Jets find a QB. Bengals and Chiefs are clearly in another class than us. So we're going to be scraping into the playoffs and will probably be perennial one-and-done or won-and-not-done but lose easily in the divisional round. Fun! This can’t be overstated and is definitely worth noting to temper some of the overreaction. The D has been missing guys and playing injured all year. It’s clearly had an effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, PayDaBill$ said: It’s all about the eye-test, we just don’t pass it offensively or defensively. This. I agree 100%. The phrase "Statistics are for losers" was coined for a reason. Some of us that would provide a critique of a player on here, based on the eye-test, would get mercilessly refuted by others that ground their counter argument in selective statistics. Case in point, I have stated multiple times that while Ed Oliver seems like a really good dude, he is a pretty average player. The eye-test, week-in and week-out, confirms this. Yet, some here would then bring up a random statistic about "pressures" or some other curious statistic that would suggest Big Ed is a beast. Unfortunately, today revealed the eye-test can be superior to analytics or statistics and when reflecting on what happened today, it came as no shock that we got mauled. I was as hopeful as anyone that today could be our day. But deep down, we just do not have the personnel to play with the big boys... particularly in the trenches. Today removed doubt or it should have. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 We need to draft better, plain and simple. Then we don't constantly have to go after proven FAs at top dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Jamone said: Not pulling the trigger on mccafferry was this teams biggest mistake. 🫡 Easy fix... draft Bijan!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: We won't so long as the rest of the conference keeps improving. We'll be lucky to win the division next year if the Dolphins don't go on losing streaks and the Jets find a QB. Bengals and Chiefs are clearly in another class than us. So we're going to be scraping into the playoffs and will probably be perennial one-and-done or won-and-not-done but lose easily in the divisional round. Fun! TB12 will probably be in Miami with all those weapons, he’ll just need to manage games to roll. I agree…. With this same squad I don’t think we even win the division. Edited January 23, 2023 by PayDaBill$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: Yeah... Like the Bengals stud backups😂😂 You don’t need stud Lineman running the ball in slippery turf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Punch said: The 2nd half of the Green Bay game was an eye opener, solidified by the Jets game in NJ. I think the scene is a big part of it but it’s utterly deflating to get steamrolled like that. I was blinded by the brilliance of Allen & Diggs. They are the two best payers on this team. Going forward we must surround them with the best possible complementary talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 James Cook had 5 carries today. Nyheim Hines never got going on this offense despite having games where he saw 10 targets in Indy last year. It’s so insanely frustrating. We don’t need McCaffrey, we need to know how to develop and utilize existing players. The Hines stuff is insanity, he’s not even a rookie! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Jamone said: Better than 27-10 In all seriousness, if they had successfully acquired McCaffrey or Kamara I wonder how different the offense would’ve been run. Would Dorsey have developed an effective screen game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I think it’s pretty unfortunate we didn’t get a chance to play the Bengals in the regular season. I think it would’ve went a long way in preparing for them in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I humbly disagree. McCaffery doesn't improve our defense or o-line. He's just one guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Punch said: If the Bills had McCaffrey the final score would’ve been 27-17 Exactly. He also doesn't play on defense!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNTANBILLS FAN Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jamone said: Not pulling the trigger on mccafferry was this teams biggest mistake. 🫡 No worst was keeping Leslie Fraizer as D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Trade Josh and Diggs for 6 first round picks and then go sign Tom Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Bills were dominated on both the offensive and defensive lines and not much you can do to compensate for that. Von Miller would not have made much difference in this game either. Josh was not sharp today, was not feeling the rush and not making some key throws. Even though a interception at the end, turnovers had no impact on the game so can't blame that. Defensive backfield was leaving guys the most wide open I've seen all year. Easy to lay blame on the defense but the Bills offense scoring 1 TD was the story of the game. If anything Bills had to be ready for a shootout and instead they brought a dull knife to a gun fight. I credit Bengals, they played their game and weren't fazed by the weather or the fans or the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Punch said: This can’t be overstated and is definitely worth noting to temper some of the overreaction. The D has been missing guys and playing injured all year. It’s clearly had an effect. It sure has. But at the end of the day, if we don't have the players to run the D that McD wants to, then they need to adjust and try something. They just seem so stubborn with their defensive approach. Almost arrogantly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 43 minutes ago, BananaB said: It would have been a first down if Gabe held onto the ***** ball. Can’t blame the qb for that. The ball was there to make a play and it was dropped. Would it make you feel better if he threw it 3 yards and it was dropped? Keep thinking that’s a recipe for success. It failed us last week but we skated by, today it cost us. Keep the loser mentality 👍 look at success rates, your plan is terrible and was proven so today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: Trade Josh and Diggs for 6 first round picks and then go sign Tom Brady. Just gross. I vomited in my mouth a little. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, jcamm1966 said: McD is a defensive coach yet is D is a mess. the trend is O minded head coach we are stuck in the past . At least we will be back in the nobody talks about us mode next season Yeah look at tonight’s NFC game: two OC head coaches but the defenses are both playing nasty right now. Hiring a DC to run your team just isn’t the way to go in this league, and that’s only magnified when you have a talented QB who’s floundering cuz we have no one that can coach him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Trade Josh and Diggs for 6 first round picks and then go sign Tom Brady. Now that just trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Cincinnati dominated the line of scrimmage on both offense and defense. Moreover, Cincinnati did it with mostly backups on the offensive line. They have to fix it if they want to take the next step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Johnnycage46 said: It sure has. But at the end of the day, if we don't have the players to run the D that McD wants to, then they need to adjust and try something. They just seem so stubborn with their defensive approach. Almost arrogantly so. The refusal (or inability) to adjust infuriates me. Hearing Frazier say they’ll continue to do what got them here was deflating during the week because we all knew exactly what that meant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I think it’s pretty unfortunate we didn’t get a chance to play the Bengals in the regular season. I think it would’ve went a long way in preparing for them in the playoffs. And yet not playing the Bills didn’t seem to bother the Bengals so much. I think the Bills offense would have been better than today had the game at the Jungle played out. The defense? No. Edited January 23, 2023 by UKBillFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: You don’t need stud Lineman running the ball in slippery turf. What was the Bills excuse then?? A better RB that can run in those conditions? Edited January 23, 2023 by Solomon Grundy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Punch said: In all seriousness, if they had successfully acquired McCaffrey or Kamara I wonder how different the offense would’ve been run. Would Dorsey have developed an effective screen game? Not much different, the oline is the issue, those players would help but not guarantee success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Meatloaf63 said: Keep thinking that’s a recipe for success. It failed us last week but we skated by, today it cost us. Keep the loser mentality 👍 look at success rates, your plan is terrible and was proven so today. Pass was there, pass was dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 All I know is Dan Quinn is absolutely schooling Kyle Shannhan today the right coordinator means a lot staffing changes are just a start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcamm1966 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Give the Saints whatever they want for Payton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Yobogoya! said: Yeah look at tonight’s NFC game: two OC head coaches but the defenses are both playing nasty right now. Hiring a DC to run your team just isn’t the way to go in this league, and that’s only magnified when you have a talented QB who’s floundering cuz we have no one that can coach him up. Tell that to Belichick. You need good coaches on both sides of the ball. It doesn't matter with OC or DC for coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: What was the Bills excuse then?? Wait you actually think the Bills OL is even a little good? Ooo how many Runs did Bills do too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Billever76 said: Great coaches use that as motivation.....we have e had nothing but heart wrench in this city and just enough heartache with this coaching staff....this isn't a young team....if they can't get motivated by now they never will What comparable situation has there been to seeing your teammate dead on the field and being brought back to life that has been used as motivation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Im seeing disturbing similarities to the 2000s Colts and that's not a great thing. Conservative coach running a zone based scheme that get's gashed in the playoffs..all time great qb that the team is super over reliant on . Getting dominated at the line of scrimmage. In don't know if coach is the right man for the Job he's done alot and he will always be revered in this city but we just havent gotten it done defensively which is supposed to be his area of strength and we are squandering the best QB in franchise history if no changes are made . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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