wppete Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: Nothing going to happen, nothing going to change… That’s just sad if that is the case. If no major shake up happens we will be the Dolphins of the 80s and 90s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Billever76 said: We built McDermotts process...This is his image....it's turned into a nightmare I wouldn't call playoffs every year a "nightmare" That's overdramatic. The process is not getting them to the Super Bowl, though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Process said: I don't blame him, I'd be pissed too. Repeated failures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Stadium Original Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I lay a lot of this blame at Beans feet. We had the line he built reatively intact and injury free, and today, Allen was pressured on roughly 50% of his dropbacks...a pathetic statistic...not that there was a whole lot open to throw to... Think you will find the interior D-line played pretty hurt at the end of the season..thats why the run defense dropped off at the end of the season..but the edge rushers??..lots of draft capital there and they were non existant today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, BeavercreekBillsFan said: I’m pissed off, same reason you’re here. But glad everyone might be coming around to reality now. I'm pissed off too, mostly because like you I have to watch all my neighbors celebrate another trip to the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, wppete said: Who would you say goes first? Frazier just for the fact that Dorsey is has only been OC for one year. But they both suck imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Coot Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I was afraid of this. During the regular season a good team can win with smoke and mirrors but not in the playoffs. Our defense was throughly outplayed, mostly the D line. Much of this is attributable to injuries to key players as well as the general wear & tear of playing 18 games. Of for the offense, our receiver corps was depleted by injuries. The OL needs to be upgraded. Oh well, onto next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Ass kicking. Plain and simple. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: This is unexcusable. Not even considering we have one of the best qbs to ever play football. Coaching needs to address the Offense heavy in the draft or they should be on the hot seat. They obviously can not evaluate the DL well. We should have the #1 DL in the league based off our draft capital and FA contracts spent. They are somehow garbage. Stop with it. Just stop with the Defensive draft and FA signings. It has absolutely failed to this point If the DL sucks then we need an entirely new Defensive persona. This is the impetus to send Frazier packing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeLongBillsFan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Wacka said: Romo is a ball washer only second to Collinsworth. Collinsworth was telling us all Miami was a superbowl team before the Chargers game - he is an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, wppete said: You are saying no one is to be held accountable after today?? Who was held accountable after the loss in KC last season? Levi Wallace? The guy who we probably missed this year? This team will do nothing. Fraizer has been horrible. We never get any pressure and every good QB has all day to cut us up. Every physical team dominates us on both sides of the ball. This ***** isn’t new. Been this way for 3 seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: McDemott will start the 2023 season on the hot seat. The reality is when expectations are high just making the playoffs no longer cuts it. Forget who it was, maybe @Chaos ?but they did a great breakdown of how a head coach and QB combo will win the Super Bowl within the first 5 seasons of being together. McDemott and Allen are going into year six next season. They are currently going backwards. Allen isn’t going anywhere. This was oddly merged with a different thread. I think this link takes you to the post you referenced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Divit Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) One of the problems with the o-line is Morse. Centers in this league need to be athletic and play with leverage. Morse is too slow to get out on linebackers or pull down the line. He’s a gamer but limited. he should be moved to guard. Edited January 22, 2023 by Dr Divit 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Chaos said: This was oddly merged with a different thread. I think this link takes you to the post you referenced. The post is on page 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 We need to concentrate on the trenches and get a little more old school if we ever expect to get close again. Also have to say that this Organization as a whole has got to stop thinking they are golden just because we have a great QB. I've been saying this for 2 years now and people on Buffalo radio mock folks like me who want to see the Bills get serious about fielding a more balanced team on Offense. Did Cincy just drop back and throw deep to those WR's all day? Nope... When you have a QB as good as Josh, it's literally a cheat code if you build an O-line that can play smash mouth...You don't have to run more than pass or any of that garbage. Andy Reid uses the short passing game and screens (as runs basically) a ton...The Ravens screened this Bengals D all game last week. But we are not balanced and it shows itself too often when we can't make the big plays on Offense over the top. On Defense, this team has been exposed. Offensive coordinators know how to scheme guys wide open and they just play the YAC game on us. OK...You're going to give us that much cushion, we'll just pitch and catch you to death. And the tackling...Oh my goodness it's bad...No way you can continue to play this zone D vs. the up and coming NFL Offenses. Too much talent on the field now. You have to match it with pressure, disruption at the line of scrimmage, and sure tackling...We have almost none of that. Very humbling experience...But honestly I should have known something like this was coming. They flirted with it all year...It was only a matter of time, and tbh I'm glad it did not come in the Super Bowl. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Iverwig said: Which is strange for a defensive minded HC. Yes it is but his defense is super safe and conservative!..his idea of defense is not my idea of cold snowy Buffalo defense....he runs a warm weather Uber conservative defense that doesn't take chances...don't dictate the offense and sits back in soft zones waiting to react...hopes to get a turnover on a mistake....great teams don't make those mistakes in the playoffs and great defenses FORCE those mistakes by laying it all on the line and being physical! Edited January 22, 2023 by Billever76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iverwig Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Josh Allen is his own problem. Singletary is wide open in the flat on the INT That doesn’t explain the defense. The offense and defense both sucked which falls on the head coach as much as the coordinators. The only reason I would give McD a pass this game is this team has been through a lot emotionally and may have been drained. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Poyer needs to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 So many wasted picks on the defensive line… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 The Super Bowl window closed right after the 13 seconds happened last year. Coaching is awful, more players will leave, and they are in salary cap trouble right now.. The entire AFC will be better next year, and the bills will once again go into decline. They will make the playoffs most years but last year it was it, it’s a shame. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, CoudyBills said: He won't play within it. That's the problem. Yeah you're right. It's so clear the system Dorsey has is as good as Cincy and KC amd Allen is the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, BaaadThingsMan said: Poyer needs to go Don’t worry. He won’t be here anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, FrenchConnection said: I'm pissed off too, mostly because like you I have to watch all my neighbors celebrate another trip to the Super Bowl. Yep I’m directly in the heart of bengals country. That said, being so close I’ve seen how much better they are than us and how burrow just has IT whatever IT is. He’s also got better coaching, infinitely better weapons and a good defense. Josh has NONE OF THAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I don’t agree with that. I think it’s fraizers. Just like his POS defenses were in Minnesota. McD’s the head coach that’s a defensive coach. If he doesn’t like anything about the defense, he can step in. That’s the responsibility of a Head Coach and why they’re called the Head Coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, buffalobillswin said: I know the tagline of this board is “everyone else’s fault besides Allen” but Mahomes widened the gap this year and Burrow overtook him. Really have to cut down the turnovers next year. WTF are you talking about ? The Bills lost THIS game due to getting their asses kicked on both sides of the line. Allen committed ONE turnover at the end of garbage time. He got abused by Cinci’s D. STFU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Josh Allen speaking publicly right now in his post-game presser. Just burped in the middle of a word...and then continued talking. Never really acknowledged it. LOL! SO FITTING FOR THIS DAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 That was one pathetic pathetic performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Got their asses kicked today Need to do better next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Who was held accountable after the loss in KC last season? Levi Wallace? The guy who we probably missed this year? This team will do nothing. Fraizer has been horrible. We never get any pressure and every good QB has all day to cut us up. Every physical team dominates us on both sides of the ball. This ***** isn’t new. Been this way for 3 seasons Levi Wallace and Spwcial teams coach. And that was t enough. Frazier should’ve been gone also…. Hopefully after this Frazier is a goner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, BillsFan4 said: So many wasted picks on the defensive line… Oliver will be gone soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Best Williams Available said: If the DL sucks then we need an entirely new Defensive persona. This is the impetus to send Frazier packing. Whatever it takes. Is it Frazier or is our Dline been basically bust and wasted FA money? Its a serious question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Instead of building a championship team we built a team that beats up on bad teams. Instead of coming into the playoffs being a team that can run or pass and stop the run or stop the pass we throw all the damn time and if the big plays don't happen we don't score. Defense can't cover. I mean our pass rush is not the best but there are almost no cover sacks because the opposing QB's always have somewhere to throw the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said: Must be a harsh reality to those who bashed us that called this all week. This was always a bad matchup for us but more importantly I HOPE (can’t stress that enough) that this gets frazier canned and McDermott (although that’s not happening). Will you all admit Beane isn’t all that great either finally? Hasn’t drafted a pro bowler in 4 years. Holes everywhere. Our offensive and defensive lines were manhandled. But of course the coaches should have just had them play harder? Face it we were physically overpowered today. It certainly didn't help that we fell behind by 14 early. Playing behind by a lot most of the day allowed the Bengals to keep bringing pressure on Josh. But lord their "backup" O-line and running game just made our D look bad. I don't think it's coaching, I think we need to upgrade our talent on both lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, familykwi said: To be honest, this loss tells us where this team is. They are NOT the deepest roster in football. Last year hurt WAY more. The game in KC was winnable. With that roster. This year, they simply suffered too many setbacks, some external, some self inflicted. This team can still win it all, but they have work to do to be sure. The way this roster is constructed and the lack of recent productive drafts, without Allen this is a 6 or 7 win team. Build the lines on both sides of the ball and move on from Frazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, NUT said: And so it begins. Diggs is finally starting to realize his career is being wasted in Buffalo. He's had his best career numbers in Buffalo. Being angry you keep failing in the playoffs is not the same thing. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: First real “loss” this year. First time I felt they were beat down and outplayed. From start to finish. Bengals had better game plan for the weather. Run hard and short swing passes. Agreed. They came out of the tunnel like their nose was punched and their lunch money was taken. Not sure how you could come into a game like this flat but they sure played with no spirit from start to finish. Really disappointing way to go into the next few months. Ugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, GETTOTHE50 said: Don’t worry. He won’t be here anymore The D needs a playmaker or two at Safety/LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Out of the 14 playoff teams there's only 4 I wouldn't wish to have their coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phils n Bills Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFan4 said: So many wasted picks on the defensive line… Are they wasted or just undeveloped? I think the question begs to be asked considering what our defense has been looking like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, The 9 Isles said: Is anyone really surprised? This is who the Bills are. They are the lovable losers of sports. Same old Bills. Why are you here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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