JGMcD2 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Matt Milano FIRST TEAM ALL-PRO Stefon Diggs SECOND TEAM ALL-PRO BILLS PLAYERS RECEIVING VOTES First-place votes in parentheses are worth three points, second-place votes worth one. Josh Allen, Buffalo, 15 Stefon Diggs, Buffalo, 74 (13) Matt Milano, Buffalo, 85 (25) Tremaine Edmunds, Buffalo, 2 Jordan Poyer, Buffalo, 25 (5) Tyler Bass, Buffalo, 4 (1) Nyheim Hines, Buffalo, 23 (5) 2022 NFL All-Pro Team Voting | The Seattle Times Edited January 13, 2023 by JGMcD2 3 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 LETS GO MATT!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 wow, BOTH of Edmunds parents are among the "national panel of media members"?? 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Wow. Heck of an honor for Milano! Way more impressive than a Pro Bowl selection. 5 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: wow, BOTH of Edmunds parents are among the "national panel of media members"?? Yeah, I guess we can't be happy TBD's whipping boy received well deserved votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Well deserved and earned Matty!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dopey said: Yeah, I guess we can't be happy TBD's whipping boy received well deserved votes. Shout out to mom and dad for the two votes? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Josh Allen got 15 votes? Jalen Hurts made it over him? Now this is turning into a joke like the Pro Bowl. 1 3 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Wow. Heck of an honor for Milano! Way more impressive than a Pro Bowl selection. All Pro selection: players voted on by a national panel of 50 writers. Pro Bowl selection: players voted on by 1/3 coaches, 1/3 players and 1/3 fans. I'd rather have coaches, players and fans voting vs. media members. Way more impressive to me. Now, the pro bowl festivities are another topic. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Lmao took the national media 5 years to see that our best LBer isn't the top 16 pick, but the fifth rounder from Boston College. Just now, Dopey said: All Pro selection: players voted on by a national panel of 50 writers. Pro Bowl selection: players voted on by 1/3 coaches, 1/3 players and 1/3 fans. I'd rather have coaches, players and fans voting vs. media members. Way more impressive to me. Now, the pro bowl festivities are another topic. You're entirely wrong about which matters more lol. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Love a nice Edmunds thread. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Josh Allen got 15 votes? Jalen Hurts made it over him? Now this is turning into a joke like the Pro Bowl. Hurts is the shiny new toy and he was having a great season (albeit against a Charmin soft schedule) before his injury. But yeah, it's hard to see him making it over Allen and Burrow. 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB2SF Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Josh Allen got 15 votes? Jalen Hurts made it over him? Now this is turning into a joke like the Pro Bowl. This actually doesn't bother me too much. Josh had way too many interceptions, especially in the red zone. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Wyatt Teller didn’t make All Pro. I KNEW that was a good trade for us. Yeehawww! 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Wyatt Teller didn’t make All Pro. I KNEW that was a good trade for us. Yeehawww! Cody Ford was *this* close to getting a vote per my sources in Arizona. 11 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Josh Allen got 15 votes? Jalen Hurts made it over him? Now this is turning into a joke like the Pro Bowl. Josh almost led the league in picks and had a stretch of a couple games riddled with some head scratching plays. The standard being "third in All-Pro voting" in a relatively not historically insane year is pretty good. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Cody Ford was *this* close to getting a vote per my sources in Arizona. Did he have to pay for it himself? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Congrats to Matt Milano, well deserved. EDIT: Also, it’s a bit concerning for a potential BUF vs PHI matchup that Philly has 4/5 OL who received multiple All Pro votes, either first or second team. Edited January 13, 2023 by JayBaller10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Josh Allen got 15 votes? Jalen Hurts made it over him? Now this is turning into a joke like the Pro Bowl. Hurts was better than Allen in virtually every statistical category except total passing yards, total TDs, and yards per carry. He had a PHENOMENAL season and was deserving. 14-1 as a starter too. Allen had a great year too, of course. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HurtJa00.htm Edited January 13, 2023 by dave mcbride 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 So there are 50 voters. They are each allowed to vote for 2 players per position (1st team and 2nd team, I assume). 1st team tally for QB, RB, TE, LT, LG, RG, RT, C all equal 50. Makes sense. Yet for WR there were 150 1st place votes by 50 voters. Edge rusher produced 100 1st place votes. Interior lineman got 100 1st place votes cast. LBs received 150 1st place votes, etc. seems weird. how do 50 people give 50 1st place votes to Jefferson and 47 1st place votes to Hill, and then still have 43 more 1st place votes to doll out at WR for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, UB2SF said: This actually doesn't bother me too much. Josh had way too many interceptions, especially in the red zone. the fumbles too-he's actually not that far off from everyone else in interceptions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 51 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Matt Milano FIRST TEAM ALL-PRO "I thought they misspelled Mitch Morse's name." - Matt Milano j/k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Matt Milano FIRST TEAM ALL-PRO Glad to see our boy get some recognition! It's especially cool in that I remember one of our players - might have been Hyde - explaining why it was especially difficult for an LB in Milano's role to get that recognition, because they're lumped into a category with a lot of pass-rusher types. Edited January 13, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I am really glad Milano is getting the recognition he deserves. He's perpetually underrated and underappreciated by non-Bills fans. I bet if you ask the average NFL fan, they've never even heard of him. He's an elite player, and hugely important to the Bills' defensive success. Great (and unexpected) re-signing by Beane. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Well deserved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, WhoTom said: "I thought they misspelled Mitch Morse's name." - Matt Milano j/k I actually could see Milano saying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Josh Allen would swear up and down if you asked him that he doesn't care about individual accolades like the Pro Bowl and All-Pro votes. But I promise you, he cares, and it's gonna piss him off. What was that he said last year? "WHO THE ***** DID THEY THINK I WAS?!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: Lmao took the national media 5 years to see that our best LBer isn't the top 16 pick, but the fifth rounder from Boston College. You're entirely wrong about which matters more lol. Your 1st sentence says it all. You say it took the national media too long to see this. Like they don't know what they are seeing. Then you perform a 180 and say All-Pro voting by that same media matters more?! How does that even work? As to the bold: In your opinion? Sure. You do realize that's all this is, right?!? Opinions. Which is why I wrote "I'd rather have coaches, players and fans voting". I also stated it was" Way more impressive to me". I try not to act like my posts are 100 percent right, especially when based on opinion. See what I did there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dopey said: Your 1st sentence says it all. You say it took the national media too long to see this. Like they don't know what they are seeing. Then you perform a 180 and say All-Pro voting by that same media matters more?! How does that even work? As to the bold: In your opinion? Sure. You do realize that's all this is, right?!? Opinions. Which is why I wrote "I'd rather have coaches, players and fans voting". I also stated it was" Way more impressive to me". I try not to act like my posts are 100 percent right, especially when based on opinion. See what I did there? The players/coaches/fans popularity contest still didn't see it. Milano wasn't even a ProBowler. All-Pro has always mattered more in player circles and HoF voting etc. Your opinion is your opinion. Edited January 13, 2023 by FireChans 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Milano’s contract was a steal. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I actually could see Milano saying that. When Morse found out he'd been named to the Pro Bowl, he said, "I thought they misspelled Matt Milano's name." https://billswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/01/buffalo-bills-mitch-morse-comments-pro-bowl-josh-allen/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Hurts was better than Allen in virtually every statistical category except total passing yards, total TDs, and yards per carry. He had a PHENOMENAL season and was deserving. Allen had a great year too, of course. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HurtJa00.htm he did have a great season relatively speaking, but Josh also had more YPG passing, more yards rushing (on far fewer carries) for a much better YPC and accounted for 42/50 (84%) of the teams Offensive TDs and for 5045/6361 (79%) of their yards from scrimmage. Hurts was responsible for 35/57 (61%) TDs and 4461/6614 (67%) of yards from scrimmage. Those aren't similar stats. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Nice to see Matty get the recognition. He was the MVP of our Defense this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Milano’s contract was a steal. We don't talk about it but the Bills got sneaky lucky that he was banged up in 2020 and battling that hamstring. Probably drove down his value a decent bit and he returned to form just after that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Don’t bury the lede. These long snapper tally’s might need their own thread. Long Snappers Andrew DePaola, Minnesota, 87 (26); Nick Moore, Baltimore, 29 (8); Luke Rhodes, Indianapolis, 25 (7); Zach Wood, New Orleans, 23 (2); Morgan Cox, Tennessee, 19 (4); Jon Weeks, Houston, 4 (1); Liam McCullough, Atlanta, 3 (1); Trent Sieg, Las Vegas, 3 (1); Josh Harris, Los Angeles Chargers, 3; Rick Lovato, Philadelphia, 2; J.J. Jansen, Carolina, 1; Patrick Scales, Chicago, 1. Edited January 13, 2023 by Zag20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: he did have a great season relatively speaking, but Josh also had more YPG passing, more yards rushing (on far fewer carries) for a much better YPC and accounted for 42/50 (84%) of the teams Offensive TDs and for 5045/6361 (79%) of their yards from scrimmage. Hurts was responsible for 35/57 (61%) TDs and 4461/6614 (67%) of yards from scrimmage. Those aren't similar stats. Better QB rating. Far fewer turnovers (fewer INTs, fewer fumbles). Better completion pct. Better YPA. These are key categories, particularly YPA. And one of the reasons his ypc was lower is because he had so many touchdowns (touchdown runs lower the yards you would have gained if the EZ line wasn't there). Anyway, as I mention in my thread below, Allen and Hurts were deemed by PFR to tie for the league lead in approximate value. He was entirely deserving. Allen was deserving too, but I have no issue with Hurts getting it given JA's propensity for red zone turnovers this season. It was a problem. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Looks rock solid to me. Awesome seeing Milano recognized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Love it. A well deserved honor to both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Nice. Shows that Milano was truly a pro bowl snub. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 All Pro Milano! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Something right in the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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