dave mcbride Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 16 hours ago, Hsker4life said: And whatever happen to quality announcing. Not even a mention of the forward progress issue. Totally. His forward progress was OBVIOUSLY stopped. They didn’t address whether it was reviewable or not either. It’s one of the worst calls I’ve seen this year, and there have been some bad ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Ray Stonada said: Kumerow has been overvalued by the Bills, IMO. 2 hours ago, Ray Stonada said: I think he might be why we overvalued him! As a WR? He's taken 17 snaps on offense for the season. They must be hiding him for the playoffs.. He's not worth mentioning as a WR and is a special teams player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 10 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Well he’s excelling now someone dropped the ball and that’s Daniel Jones throwing to him. Or he needed a kick in the arse to step up his performance and save his nfl career. These things happen and not a huge deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 2 hours ago, UKBillFan said: All Stevenson had to do was hold on to the ball. Trust the Pats not to help us out when we needed them to. How that play was not blown dead for forward progress is anyone's guess. Stevenson should have been ruled down for no gain. You're bang on pointing out that of course when the Zebras decide to screw the pats, they find a way to screw us too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: How that play was not blown dead for forward progress is anyone's guess. Stevenson should have been ruled down for no gain. You're bang on pointing out that of course when the Zebras decide to screw the pats, they find a way to screw us too. I was baffled about the play not being whistled dead but thought I must be missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 10 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Well he’s excelling now someone dropped the ball and that’s Daniel Jones throwing to him. He’s not excelling at all. He has one game over 50 yards receiving and yes he has a couple of touchdowns now. As others have said he is a poor man’s version of what Robert Foster did (which isn’t saying much) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 57 minutes ago, Malazan said: As a WR? He's taken 17 snaps on offense for the season. They must be hiding him for the playoffs.. He's not worth mentioning as a WR and is a special teams player. I think this year they planned on him being the 1st replacement for Diggs/Davis. It just so happens that he has gotten injured often this season. Kumerow was first up when Davis was injured. Not Crowder, Hodgins, or Shakir. Kumerow actually lead the Bills WRs in snaps week 2 when Davis was out. So yeah they had big plans for him I believe. He just couldn’t stay healthy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Malazan said: As a WR? He's taken 17 snaps on offense for the season. They must be hiding him for the playoffs.. He's not worth mentioning as a WR and is a special teams player. As someone who gets a roster spot, and kept us from keeping another receiver option. We already have Taiwan and Matakevich as special teams aces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) It’s kind of crazy how tight the AFC is for the wild card. Jets, Steelers, Jags, Titans, Pats, Chargers and Dolphins could finish at 9-8. Dolphins could be out of a playoff spot after next week. Go Karen Rodgers! Edited December 25, 2022 by DapperCam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Can someone find a video of this play by New England. I can't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: Totally. His forward progress was OBVIOUSLY stopped. They didn’t address whether it was reviewable or not either. It’s one of the worst calls I’ve seen this year, and there have been some bad ones. According to the pool report from the ref, Stevenson was never wrapped up and controlled on the initial stop and that’s why they didn’t blow the whistle. Debatable, but if you watch they play again it does have some merit. Stevenson blasts into the pile, gets stopped, then kind of jump backs and tries to advance again before getting buried and stripped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, DapperCam said: It’s kind of crazy how tight the AFC is for the wild card. Jets, Steelers, Jags, Titans, Pats, Chargers and Dolphins could finish at 9-8. Dolphins could be out of a playoff spot after next week. Go Karen Rodgers! NFC is the same way. And it’s exciting for the fans. That’s why I believe going to 8 teams and the top 2 get a bye would work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think this year they planned on him being the 1st replacement for Diggs/Davis. It just so happens that he has gotten injured often this season. Kumerow was first up when Davis was injured. Not Crowder, Hodgins, or Shakir. Kumerow actually lead the Bills WRs in snaps week 2 when Davis was out. So yeah they had big plans for him I believe. He just couldn’t stay healthy. I think this is right, and that this plan overrated his potential as a WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: NFC is the same way. And it’s exciting for the fans. That’s why I believe going to 8 teams and the top 2 get a bye would work. If you go 8 teams then no teams would get a bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: According to the pool report from the ref, Stevenson was never wrapped up and controlled on the initial stop and that’s why they didn’t blow the whistle. Debatable, but if you watch they play again it does have some merit. Stevenson blasts into the pile, gets stopped, then kind of jump backs and tries to advance again before getting buried and stripped. I saw that comment, which I thought was classic CYA. He was literally pushed back 3 yards! The whistle is always blown when that happens regardless of whether a guy’s legs are still churning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 40 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: According to the pool report from the ref, Stevenson was never wrapped up and controlled on the initial stop and that’s why they didn’t blow the whistle. Debatable, but if you watch they play again it does have some merit. Stevenson blasts into the pile, gets stopped, then kind of jump backs and tries to advance again before getting buried and stripped. Yeah I’m OK with them letting the play go there from what I saw on the broadcast. 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I saw that comment, which I thought was classic CYA. He was literally pushed back 3 yards! The whistle is always blown when that happens regardless of whether a guy’s legs are still churning. IDK I’ve seen plays where a guy gets pushed back but he manages to break free and get yards. I feel like there’s merit to the call here especially with how fast it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think this year they planned on him being the 1st replacement for Diggs/Davis. It just so happens that he has gotten injured often this season. Kumerow was first up when Davis was injured. Not Crowder, Hodgins, or Shakir. Kumerow actually lead the Bills WRs in snaps week 2 when Davis was out. So yeah they had big plans for him I believe. He just couldn’t stay healthy. Not sure they had “big plans” but they definitely expected to utilize him. I also think they were expecting to keep Hodgins as a squad guy but Daboll’s familiarity and the Giants receiver issues came at the wrong time for us. We probably would have promoted him after Kumerow went on IR. But I could be messing up the timeline here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 4 hours ago, UKBillFan said: All Stevenson had to do was hold on to the ball. Trust the Pats not to help us out when we needed them to. You really have to wonder sometimes with BB about his motives. Hearing how he voted a guy into the pro bowl so another team had to give him a bonus, it wouldn't surprise me that he told his team to try to lose after being out of the playoffs to screw the bills over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 37 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I saw that comment, which I thought was classic CYA. He was literally pushed back 3 yards! The whistle is always blown when that happens regardless of whether a guy’s legs are still churning. If the same play happened and it was the Bills on defense, this place would have EXPLODED if the play was whistled dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Ya Digg? said: He’s not excelling at all. He has one game over 50 yards receiving and yes he has a couple of touchdowns now. As others have said he is a poor man’s version of what Robert Foster did (which isn’t saying much) And doing well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 50 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: If you go 8 teams then no teams would get a bye True. Math failed me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 7 hours ago, The Wiz said: Who have they developed? Gabe is the only wr that they drafted and kept on the roster. Exactly speaking objectively as Greg Cosell said they have steph Diggs and a bunch of guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: He’s not excelling at all. He has one game over 50 yards receiving and yes he has a couple of touchdowns now. As others have said he is a poor man’s version of what Robert Foster did (which isn’t saying much) Hodgins isn’t a speed guy. Who is comparing him to Foster? He might be JAG when it’s all said and done but his usage is trending up and he looks pretty good from what I’ve seen. He’s got some extra length that our guys don’t have too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: He’s not excelling at all. He has one game over 50 yards receiving and yes he has a couple of touchdowns now. As others have said he is a poor man’s version of what Robert Foster did (which isn’t saying much) That might be one of the worst comps possible. Foster = all speed no hands. Hodgins catches everything. He was miscast with the Bills, he has actually kind of mutant short-area quickness but not long speed, he should have been developed as a big slot receiver, a big first down machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 First time rooting for Rodgers today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Ralonzo said: That might be one of the worst comps possible. Foster = all speed no hands. Hodgins catches everything. He was miscast with the Bills, he has actually kind of mutant short-area quickness but not long speed, he should have been developed as a big slot receiver, a big first down machine. Yeah I kind of see him like a Thielen type. Sneaky good, sure handed, technician-type. But again he is lanky which is a boost. Early injury had to have stunted his growth here. Daboll & Schoen obviously liked his upside and we had to have known they were a potential sniper on waivers. But they have had even worse injury luck than us at the receiver position. Plus a potential malcontent with Toney? Anyway these things happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 I'm glad this game doesn't really matter for us. It's fun to root against a team like Miami just out personal spite and animosity as opposed to self-interest. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Not sure why Miami stopped running with Mostert last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: That might be one of the worst comps possible. Foster = all speed no hands. Hodgins catches everything. He was miscast with the Bills, he has actually kind of mutant short-area quickness but not long speed, he should have been developed as a big slot receiver, a big first down machine. The point his people are building him up like the Bills missed out on something amazing. He’s fine, nothing special though. He wasn’t going to climb the depth chart here so I’m not really understanding why people are getting so worked up over a guy who has a couple of touchdowns and some catches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 It was as if Rodgers voluntarily chose to take that sack. Josh Allen is more likely to score a TD than be sacked on that play. I mean, the likelihood of him being tackled in the backfield by that defender is approximately zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: It was as if Rodgers voluntarily chose to take that sack. Josh Allen is more likely to score a TD than be sacked on that play. I mean, the likelihood of him being tackled in the backfield by that defender is approximately zero. Rodgers should voluntarily find a new hairdresser. He looks ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Waddle TD reminiscent of the one against us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Miami has crazy speed on offense. Really shows how slow comparatively we are on offense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyQuil Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) If Hill or Waddle have to miss a game to injury the Dolphins are screwed. Also I loathe Tyreek as a person so I may hope it happens ever single play. Edited December 25, 2022 by NyQuil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Einstein said: Miami has crazy speed on offense. Really shows how slow comparatively we are on offense. And yet this slow offense beat them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, davefan66 said: Waddle TD reminiscent of the one against us. That was more like the TD Hill had in the playoffs game to retake the lead with under 2 minutes...basically a short crossing route that he just outran everyone on up the same sideline. Edited December 25, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: That was more like the TD Hill had in the playoffs game to retake the lead with under 2 minutes...basically a short crossing route that he just outran everyone on up the same sideline. I have no recollection of the game or situation to which you are presently referring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 30 minutes ago, TBBills said: And yet this slow offense beat them. half the times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Einstein said: half the times No the offense beat them the first game actually. The Bills dominated them even though they lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, TBBills said: No the offense beat them the first game actually. The Bills dominated them even though they lost. The offense scored 17 points in the first game. I don’t care how many yards they got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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