Bills at Lions - Post Game Thread

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

8 minutes ago, Process said:

It's easy to forget because of how it ended but Josh was straight up off on a LOT of throws today. Of course we also had guys dropping perfect balls and stumbling over themselves too. 

 

Josh was very bad for 55 minutes today. But they pulled it off. We just have to hope it's the elbow that's causing it.

 

I’m gonna watch the game again so my opinion could certainly change but a lot of it looked like throwaways under pressure/ receivers not being on the same page / drops to me.  
 

the only throw where I really said ‘wow joshs elbow isn’t right’ was that ball to cook that honestly looked like it was on cook from the replay 

 

I think you’re lettin his play from previous weeks affect the perception of this game.  The pick was just a tough luck play too 

Edited November 24, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Scott7975]

Lost in all this... for the superstitious folks... we just pulled off a big win in white over blues.  Not that uniforms ever mattered.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Bird just came out of the smoker, Bills win, cracking open a cold one, I'll take it 

[DapperCam]

21 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

A chunk of the bad throws today just looked like straight up miscommunications on option routes to me…specifically the ball to cook where cook started right and completely changed his mind in a split second and josh threw it right.  

Agreed, initially that looked like Allen threw directly to the LB, but I think you have to put that one on Cook running an indecisive route. No harm no foul, hopefully a learning opportunity.

[y2zipper]

Can definitely see the team going through it some with the condensed weeks and the injuries. Getting out of this 2-0 is what we look for, and games will look like this until the defense gets healthy. They have a full week then ten days, so hopefully some guys get back.

 

I kinda see where the injury affects those sidearm throws on the RPO. A lot of those were off today but Allen can make everything when he steps up and throws over the top. The offensive line is also bad when starters go out, and that was a problem today.

 

McKenzie looked really good today.

 

With the defense so hurt, I can see that Buffalo likes to draft guys who can cover and then play them once they can tackle. The difference between the starters and backups is basically that the starting unit doesn't miss tackles and the backups, especially Hamlin and the linebackers not named Milano, just don't tackle well at all. Hamlin is SUCH a bad tackler especially.

[Steptide]

Does the moderator realize this says "bills at giants" post-game thread? 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, Steptide said:

Does the moderator realize this says "bills at giants" post-game thread? 

Bills at team that beat the giants last week it should say 😂

[sonyab1974]

11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

I hope they see this and laugh! 😂

[Solomon Grundy]

33 minutes ago, Budkin said:

Loved seeing clutch JA show up at the end! Makes it all worth it!

Add a + in the close game column

Gotta give McKenzie some love today. 

[Big C]

Hope Tre feels a little better now. We need to get “budding superstar” Dane Jackson off the field. Always in position but can’t make a play on the ball to save his life. 
 

Depth being tested but our playmakers are making plays when they need to. Oliver was huge today. Milano missed a couple but also made a couple. Obviously Allen -> Diggs.

 

I think they tried to use Cook too much today. He didn’t have it and Motor did. Felt like we wasted a couple series trying to work Cook in. Feed Motor. He is good! Cook is still putting it together.
 

McKenzie also came through today in spots. 

[newcam2012]

20 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I thought AJ Klein was huge today for us. Would have been a nightmare with Dodson out there. 

Klein wasn't amazing but he made some good plays. Clearly an upgrade over Dodson. Good pick up.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, newcam2012 said:

Klein wasn't amazing but he made some good plays. Clearly an upgrade over Dodson. Good pick up.

He could’ve been bad today and still way better than Dodson haha 

[newcam2012]

18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

OMG. That is such a great watch. 

[LABILLBACKER]

28 minutes ago, Process said:

It's easy to forget because of how it ended but Josh was straight up off on a LOT of throws today. Of course we also had guys dropping perfect balls and stumbling over themselves too. 

 

Josh was very bad for 55 minutes today. But they pulled it off. We just have to hope it's the elbow that's causing it.

 

There is no way that elbow is even partially healed.  And his throws reflect that.

[Big Turk]

15 minutes ago, Process said:

It's easy to forget because of how it ended but Josh was straight up off on a LOT of throws today. Of course we also had guys dropping perfect balls and stumbling over themselves too. 

 

Josh was very bad for 55 minutes today. But they pulled it off. We just have to hope it's the elbow that's causing it.

 

 

Gabe dropping a perfect throw...Diggs falling and dropping a ball...Cook juking out our QB that almost caused an INT.

 

It wasn't his best game but he made plays when he has to.

[Bangarang]

Thought the play calling on offense was again unimaginative and vanilla. Dorsey continues to lack any kind of creativity. 

-The outside toss to Cook is not fooling anyone and our OL isn’t good enough to make up for it.

-The RPO slant by the goal line  has been used consistently for the last 3 years. We seemingly try it every week. Defenses are expecting it and just get their hands up at the LOS. It’s what led to the INT today. 
 

Cook had a bad game. Seems like once he takes a step forward he takes 2 back. 
 

Basham was completely invisible today. If Von and Groot miss significant time then we won’t get any contribution from the guys in the edge. Basham was a strange pick at the time and he hasn’t done much to wow me. 
-Beane’s list of 2nd round picks are horrendous: Ford, Epenesa, Basham and Cook. No impact players and no real contributions to our success. 
 

Allen had a rough game but he came through when it mattered most. Same goes for Diggs. 
 

The OL needs a complete overhaul. Bates, Saffold (FA after this year) and Brown are simply not good. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[NickelCity]

Gritty. Ill take it. Pray for Von and Dion.  Boy I hope we get to see the team healthy again at some point. Our offensive line is milquetoast even at full strength...the depth is brutal.

[Marcus Aurelius]

22 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Does the moderator realize this says "bills at giants" post-game thread? 

Nope LOL

[Breakout Squad]

8 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

OMG. That is such a great watch. 

One of the best I’ve seen. A win is a win and that was huge!

[Nineforty]

33 minutes ago, Process said:

It's easy to forget because of how it ended but Josh was straight up off on a LOT of throws today. Of course we also had guys dropping perfect balls and stumbling over themselves too. 

 

Josh was very bad for 55 minutes today. But they pulled it off. We just have to hope it's the elbow that's causing it.

 

 

I agree with almost everything except I think "very bad for 55 minites" is too strong. 

 

I think he also made some good and a few great passes in that 55. 

But he is no doubt missing too many, and some that aren't close. More than we are accustomed to. 

 

I believe the elbow needs rest and he'll get some here and then a long week after NE. I hope that rest does him wonders and we start to see the early season version of Josh.  

[RyanC883]

God works in mysterious ways.  Perhaps missed EP was good.  Lions go for FG and not TD.  

[Breakout Squad]

So about the Bass missed XP. I kinda thought that helped us because you knew if the Lions were in FG range on 4th down they would kick to tie and not have to go for it on 4th. I know he didn’t miss on purpose but I feel like that was better for us. It gave us a chance to get back into FG range after they kicked off. I’m just saying if may have been better to be up by 3 instead of 4, especially with our injuries on D. What do you guys think?

1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

God works in mysterious ways.  Perhaps missed EP was good.  Lions go for FG and not TD.  

That’s what I was just thinking 

[Nextmanup]

2 minutes ago, Nineforty said:

 

I agree with almost everything except I think "very bad for 55 minites" is too strong. 

 

I think he also made some good and a few great passes in that 55. 

But he is no doubt missing too many, and some that aren't close. More than we are accustomed to. 

 

I believe the elbow needs rest and he'll get some here and then a long week after NE. I hope that rest does him wonders and we start to see the early season version of Josh.  

If his elbow was a big enough part of the problem right now, I'm not sure he could make that end of game throw to Diggs.  Either his elbow is bad or it's not.  I think it is likely "not feeling 100%" but I don't think it's the sole source of his passing woes right now.  

[Aesop]

Champs win these games. Proud of em. Go BILLS!

[wvbillsfan]

Good win

I’m not going to say anything about Dorsey, we continue to put up points 27 today. Offensive line continues to be musical chairs and Josh keeps turning the ball over in the red zone. 
 

Defensively we’ve got to get healthy. Beginning of the year the defense was demolishing everyone which started that avalanche rolling. 
Now teams are going on long drives and matching scores. 
 

We’ve been saying all year we just need to get healthy. It just doesn’t seem like that’s ever going to happen. Every single week it’s a different guy

[Perk71]

Go Bills!!

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

If his elbow was a big enough part of the problem right now, I'm not sure he could make that end of game throw to Diggs.  Either his elbow is bad or it's not.  I think it is likely "not feeling 100%" but I don't think it's the sole source of his passing woes right now.  

To play devils advocate…it could hurt when throwing from some arm angles and not others..  sometimes you have to drop down to sidearm-ish to find some throwing lanes around the defensive line.

 

I genuinely didn’t see many throwing woes this game but I’m going to be rewatching.  

[Marcus Aurelius]

By the way, what was the meaning of the placards that simply stayed "3" that the Lions were waving?

[Simon]

Just now, Marcus Aurelius said:

By the way, what was the meaning of the placards that simply stayed "3" that the Lions were waving?

 

I think they pull them out on 3rd down

[boyst]

Someone give me the rundown on the Lions OC. 

[JDubya76]

1 hour ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

It looked like a lower left spleen injury to me

It’s just a flesh wound

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said:

Good win

I’m not going to say anything about Dorsey, we continue to put up points 27 today. Offensive line continues to be musical chairs and Josh keeps turning the ball over in the red zone. 
 

Defensively we’ve got to get healthy. Beginning of the year the defense was demolishing everyone which started that avalanche rolling. 
Now teams are going on long drives and matching scores. 
 

We’ve been saying all year we just need to get healthy. It just doesn’t seem like that’s ever going to happen. Every single week it’s a different guy

That was probably joshs unluckiest int of the year…can’t fault him much for that one.  Receiver was wide open and the defensive linemen swatted it and it still took a great play by another defender to come down with it 

[Scott7975]

1 minute ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

By the way, what was the meaning of the placards that simply stayed "3" that the Lions were waving?

 

3rd down

[JDubya76]

1 hour ago, chongli said:

How did this turkey have three legs?

 

 

It was on TB12 juice

[Ralonzo]

15 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

Our offensive line is milquetoast even at full strength...the depth is brutal.

 

Where was preseason MVP Bobby Hart?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Gabe Davis should’ve caught that ball near the end zone right? I’m watching Darius Slayton go up and make a play for Daniel Jones. Davis has to go up and get that ball.

 

Im very down on him this year. I’ve gone from thinking we had our WR2 to evaluating his game each week thinking we need better.

Edited November 24, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Rocky Landing]

Throughout this thread, I keep reading this "Frazier must go..." refrain. 

 

Well, careful what you wish for, guys. Or not. Either way, Frazier is likely some other team's HC in '23, because the entire rest of the league feels very differently about Leslie Frazier than a very vocal minority of Bills fans do.