TFBillsfan Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Coaching Coaching and Coaching! My faith in McDermott is no longer there. The Bills have played like crap for 3 straight games in the 2nd half. Inability to run the ball when needed, struggling in the RZ, D continues to give up long drives and for all the great plays Josh is making he’s making crucial mistakes. How many close games does McDermott and Frazier blow it? The list is growing. Houston playoff game Jags KC Patriots Miami NYJ Minny If this continues making the playoffs isn’t a sure thing any longer. Kiss the #1 seed goodbye and even the division. The have major issues to correct! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Oh and I said to my Dad right before the endzone fumble TD that we should be in shotgun. Get the ball in Allen’s hands, 5 yards from the d-line, and let him make a decision to throw to an open guy or throw it out of bounds. Trying a QB sneak out of the end zone when our o-line had been blown up in the run game? Just awful coaching. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiezzz Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Seriously, get rid of McDermott. He has to be one of the worst game day coaches I’ve seen. Over the years, how does he continue to let teams stay in the game with his conservative game calling. Please haul ass. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 We could also use our top ranked defense making like 1 of the 3rd/4th down and 10+ stops lol. Not excusing Allen, not excusing coaching staff. But I feel defense getting a free pass more than they should by how really long first downs they gave up on 3rd and 4th. Cam Lewis needs to punch that ball on 4th and 18, not try to catch - just dumb 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef4131 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Josh is falling apart before our eyes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 We don't look like we have a plan on offense. None. And Allen making mistakes he hasn't made since 2019 Dorsey’s inexperience is now a massive problem. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: No Tre White, Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, and Kaiir Elam was not a good recipe vs. Justin Jefferson, T.J. Hockenson, and Adam Thielen. Hyde isn't coming back, so he shouldn't be part of the conversation. Elam gets torched all season, so I'm not sure how big of a loss he is today. Poyer is huge though. The white rehab is concerning considering all the praise the Bills training staff has gotten the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, RiotAct said: 😐😐😐😐😐😐 Going for it on fourth down when a field goal would have put the Bills up 7, then idiotic play calling once again in the Red Zone in overtime. I believe that would have put us up 13 but whatever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafioso Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, buffblue said: Could've kicked the fg to go up 30-17, got greedy and the game changed. The loss is unequivocally on the coaching staff. If I see one more ***** shotgun run🤬🤬🤬 Funny part is a shotgun run probably would have been the safest play when we were backed up in our own end zone at the end. Would have given Josh the ability to run the ball or throw it away…but our coaching staff sucks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, RiotAct said: 😐😐😐😐😐😐 Going for it on fourth down when a field goal would have put the Bills up 7, then idiotic play calling once again in the Red Zone in overtime. FG would have put them up 13 forcing Minny to score TWO TD’s to win. Utterly stupid!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Josh Allen throws 2 interceptions in the end zone and fumbles in his own and we want to put it on the coaching. Yes, the decision to go for it on 4th and 2 was bad, and I hated it, but the rb leaking out the backside was wide open, and instead Josh threw it right to a defense. We want to crucify the coaching for having confidence in Allen, it’s Allen that needs to make the best decision on each play…and he’s not. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: Oh and I said to my Dad right before the endzone fumble TD that we should be in shotgun. Get the ball in Allen’s hands, 5 yards from the d-line, and let him make a decision to throw to an open guy or throw it out of bounds. Trying a QB sneak out of the end zone when our o-line had been blown up in the run game? Just awful coaching. Clappy is never going to be a mensa coach but between not kicking the fg in regulation and trying a qb sneak from the 1 foot line is pure unadulterated stupidity. I'm done believing in McD/ Frazier. And Dorsey wet himself today. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, jamiezzz said: Seriously, get rid of McDermott. He has to be one of the worst game day coaches I’ve seen. Over the years, how does he continue to let teams stay in the game with his conservative game calling. Please haul ass. He never pushes the right buttons It's either they win because he doesn't screw up, or they overcome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Hutz Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Going back to last season we are now 2-9 in one score games. Fire McDermott. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Congratulations Marv Levy on having the highest win percentage in team history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) They've over corrected to being TOO aggressive. I like that they are aggressive, but they got to pick their spots. Today was terrible with passing up the FG in regulation and then going for the kill on back-to-back pass attempts from outside the 20 on 1st and 2nd down. What was their plan there? Take three endzone shots and kick a FG? I imagine they thought their best chance of getting a TD was to catch the Vikings by surprise not expecting us to take end zone shots there? Just too aggressive though. Allen also has to make better decisions. I'm sure there were better places to go with the ball on both of his final two attempts. Some of it is also play calling maybe too there but on Allen as well. Edited November 13, 2022 by Sammy Watkins' Rib 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Being out coached. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) No changes, no adjustments. Don't use Hines, Shakir, Cook. (Why'd we get them?) Don't play White (4th week now) Don't blitz. Don't call quick slant passes to slow down the pass rush & give Josh some layups to get into rhythm. Don't run it when your up to burn clock. Don't put Josh under center to even give that impression. Don't kick 3 to pad score. Don't go for the TD @ end of regulation to win from inside the 5. & Some of those injured players I bet would play in a playoff game w/ season on the line, well that's where they are now. Dorsey may need to be replaced in the next few weeks if he can't adjust. & If they do miss the playoffs McD should go. Edited November 13, 2022 by Donuts and Doritos 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, RiotAct said: 😐😐😐😐😐😐 Going for it on fourth down when a field goal would have put the Bills up 7, then idiotic play calling once again in the Red Zone in overtime. the Bills would of been up thriteen they were up ten at the time...... the play calls were the worst part 2nd and two pas pas pass....inc inc int..... the seriese before 2nd and two pas pas punt.....inc inc punt..... think how much time had the Bills run on those second and two's plays and then 3rd and whatever or potentially getting first downs potentially runs off the clock ...... just really bad decison coaches and Allen and then bad D play by Lewis on the 4th and 22 specifically to just knock the ball down vs go for the pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Clappy is never going to be a mensa coach but between not kicking the fg in regulation and trying a qb sneak from the 1 foot line is pure unadulterated stupidity. I'm done believing in McD/ Frazier. And Dorsey wet himself today. I started a thread about these issues several weeks ago and got mocked endlessly. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: Being out coached. How many second half turnovers does Allen have in those three games too though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: No changes, no adjustments. Don't use Hines, Shakir, Cook. (Why'd we get them?) Don't play White (4th week now) Don't blitz. Don't call quick slant passes to slow down the pass rush & give Josh some layups to get into rhythm. Don't run it when your up to burn clock. Don't put Josh under center to even give that impression. Don't kick 3 to pad score. Don't go for the TD @ end of regulation to win from inside the 5. & Some of those injured players I bet would play in a playoff game w/ season on the line, well that's where they are now. Dorsey may need to be replaced in the next few weeks if he can't adjust. & If they so miss the playoffs McD should go. Hines and Shakir both are playmakers so let's sit them on the bench.....Brilliant 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Clappy is never going to be a mensa coach but between not kicking the fg in regulation and trying a qb sneak from the 1 foot line is pure unadulterated stupidity. I'm done believing in McD/ Frazier. And Dorsey wet himself today. the QB sneak? What else do you do there? A handoff is far worst and pass worse than that if you get a hold in the endzone. You can't take a safety there only up 3 with 40 seconds left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Einstein said: Being out coached. I will go down with the McD is not the coach to get us over the hump ship Everytime he gets a chance to prove me wrong, he proceeds to confirm my beliefs 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: Hines and Shakir both are playmakers so let's sit them on the bench.....Brilliant McKenzie had a good game today. And both Hines and Shakir did contribute on offense today. For this game, those can't be actual complaints. This game was about Alle doing dumb things which has become a trend these last few weeks and the coaching staff being too aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: I started a thread about these issues several weeks ago and got mocked endlessly. Congrats on being right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Last year with 13 seconds our coaches proved how stupid they are. Today they validated it. I really don’t think the bills are winning a SB with this coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 How in the world did they continue to leave Dane Jackson 1 on 1 on Jefferson over and over again? Minnesota had one freaking WR and the Bills just refused to change what they were doing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, BeastMaster said: I will go down with the McD is not the coach to get us over the hump ship Everytime he gets a chance to prove me wrong, he proceeds to confirm my beliefs I’ve said it for 3 years now on here and get crushed every time I say a negative word about the fkn clapping ass clown. He should’ve been banned from Buffalo after 13 seconds last year. He robbed Bills nation with his stupidity coaching. I know for an absolute 100% FACT, McDermott had no idea the chiefs had 3 timeouts left with 13 seconds last year. He also radioed in to bass to squib it but didn’t communicate it to special teams coach. Beane should’ve fired him after the game and promoted Daboll. Now, here we are with Daboll in NY, our QB regressing, and with the same moron HC. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Lost all confidence in Allen?? Your a fake fan. Go jump on someone else’s bandwagon I didn't say all confidence. However, I'm not as confident with his current play. His inexcusable INTs aren't acceptable. We've seen it three games in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdox Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 If we can right the ship and beat the Pats then we will be back in the swing of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Mafioso said: Funny part is a shotgun run probably would have been the safest play when we were backed up in our own end zone at the end. Would have given Josh the ability to run the ball or throw it away…but our coaching staff sucks You would've thought about handing the ball to a running back 3 yards deep in the end zone? That was out the window imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: McKenzie had a good game today. And both Hines and Shakir did contribute on offense today. For this game, those can't be actual complaints. This game was about Alle doing dumb things which has become a trend these last few weeks and the coaching staff being too aggressive. Hines 1 catch 9 yds. 0 carries. Shakir 1 catch 6 yds. That's it. They didn't contribute bc they weren't used. No idea why we got them or Cook, we don't use them. Everything is put on Josh every play w/ no help from the coaches or anyone not named Diggs. So he feels he has to do it all & he presses & makes mistakes. That regression is bc this "system" Dorsey has doesn't work. Need to start having others step up, but got to use them 1st. Dorsey has not been good enough. Edited November 13, 2022 by Donuts and Doritos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, McBean said: I’ve said it for 3 years now on here and get crushed every time I say a negative word about the fkn clapping ass clown. He should’ve been banned from Buffalo after 13 seconds last year. He robbed Bills nation with his stupidity coaching. I know for an absolute 100% FACT, McDermott had no idea the chiefs had 3 timeouts left with 13 seconds last year. He also radioed in to bass to squib it but didn’t communicate it to special teams coach. Beane should’ve fired him after the game and promoted Daboll. Now, here we are with Daboll in NY, our QB regressing, and with the same moron HC. I've been saying it for just about as long and I know what you're saying The expectation this season was SB. They may very well lose the division and exit early from the playoffs If that's not seen as a coaching failure, people are high off their ass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcornpam Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, Einstein said: Some really bad coaching today. Really bad. The worst part was not double covering Jefferson. Benford did an admirable job covering Jefferson 1 on 1 - the coverage was actually pretty good - but the fact is that Cousins is comfortable throwing to Jefferson when he is single covered, and rightfully so. So you should double cover him, and make Cousins hesitate to throw to him. Every big play went to Jefferson and McDermott and Frazier refused to double him. It was mind boggling. McDermott was too busy playing games with the media all week about Josh’s injury. He should be coming up with some alternative, defensive schemes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Lost all confidence in Allen?? Your a fake fan. Go jump on someone else’s bandwagon A fake fan is one who fails to see reality and only sees the good in a team. A fake fan is one who refuses to criticize players and coaches who make critical and crucial mistakes. Is that you? 34 minutes ago, DJB said: Dorsey needs to stop abandoning the run and remind Allen to make the easy throws I thought he called a very good fist half. Mixing in the run, screens, and short passes. In the second half, he was thoroughly out coached. Felt like the Bills resorted in "back yard" football with Allen. Abandoned the run and were in scramble mode too much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNTANBILLS FAN Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, Murdox said: Allen is just struggling like crazy in the red zone at the moment. So many miscues in that area of the field. The fumble is not worth mentioning. No the coordinator is struggling 2 and 2 and 3 passes when we can run. At least roll out or run pass option. Stop the cute *****. Motor was killing and you stop running. Also I keep saying Frazier is horrible. 3 and long and this vaunted defense can't stop anything. And stop rotating players. Play the best 5 and when they need a play off bring in the backup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I understand trusting players, but they haven't been playing well and need to earn that trust back. Terrible call to go for it on 4th down instead of kicking it. Terrible call to qb sneak from the 1/2 yard line, we can't run the ball and are the worst in the NFL in short yardage. Should have spread them out and created space for Allen to run. This coaching staff, for as good as it is, can't be trusted in close games. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Hines 1 catch 9 yds. Shakir 1 catch 6 yds. That's it. They didn't contribute bc they weren't used. No idea why we got them or Cook, we don't use them. Everything is put on Josh every play w/ no help from the coaches or anyone not James Diggs. So he feels he has to do it all & he presses & makes mistakes. That regression is bc this "system" Dorsey has doesn't work. Need to start having others step up, but got to use them 1st. Dorsey has not been good enough. Most weeks i would agree but McKenzie did contribute this week both in receiving and rushing. As did both Davis and Knox. Any complaints against their usage this week are off base. This game was not about other players besides Allen not stepping up. It was about Allen making crucial mistakes at crucial times and the coaching staff blowing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNTANBILLS FAN Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, TwistofFate said: I understand trusting players, but they haven't been playing well and need to earn that trust back. Terrible call to go for it on 4th down instead of kicking it. Terrible call to qb sneak from the 1/2 yard line, we can't run the ball and are the worst in the NFL in short yardage. Should have spread them out and created space for Allen to run. This coaching staff, for as good as it is, can't be trusted in close games. We can run just fine but we stop! Second and 2 and 3 straight passes at least sneak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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