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[nkreed]

14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He’s hanging out at Josh’s house today after his visit and bar bill is his jam. Or they might have chef darian come over 

Interesting that he'd hang at Josh's house and not Von's. That said, both places are GREAT places to hang at (I'd assume).

[gordong]

Sign yet??   What the hold up??   LOL

 

[Warriorspikes51]

6 minutes ago, nkreed said:

Interesting that he'd hang at Josh's house and not Von's. That said, both places are GREAT places to hang at (I'd assume).

Von and possibly others (Diggs, Tre) will also be at Josh's house

[What a Tuel]

Is his visit to Dallas still pending or is that done? I know he visited the Giants already. Curious if we are the last stop and maybe a decision is made soon.

Edited December 2, 2022 by What a Tuel

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, What a Tuel said:

Is his visit to Dallas still pending or is that done? Curious if we are the last stop and maybe a decision is made soon.

He was in NY for dinner with the Giants last night and meeting more with them this morning. Then he's coming to Buffalo this afternoon and evening. His Dallas visit is scheduled for Monday, but hopefully he never has it 

Edited December 2, 2022 by Warriorspikes51

[YoloinOhio]

12 minutes ago, nkreed said:

Interesting that he'd hang at Josh's house and not Von's. That said, both places are GREAT places to hang at (I'd assume).

Von lives next door to McDermott and they want to be able to really party 😉

[transient]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Von lives next door to McDermott and they want to be able to really party 😉

I think "IR" was actually code for "we have Von in a cryogenic chamber for safety until we're forced to play him or shelve him". Hard to have a good time with a popsicle. 

[TheFunPolice]

the whole "go to ___________ to win the Super Bowl" is a tough call.

 

Last year in the "13 seconds game" everyone said "these are the 2 best teams! THIS should be the Super Bowl!"

 

And then we watched the Bengals and Rams in the big dance

[SCBills]

Just now, TheFunPolice said:

the whole "go to ___________ to win the Super Bowl" is a tough call.

 

Last year in the "13 seconds game" everyone said "these are the 2 best teams! THIS should be the Super Bowl!"

 

And then we watched the Bengals and Rams in the big dance

I don’t think “Come to Buffalo and help us win a Super Bowl” is a pitch that works today… at all … and I’m pretty sure that’s not the pitch. 
 

Beckham has clearly signaled he doesn’t want a short term deal.   Given that I highly doubt Dallas is only offering a one year deal, that would mean the pitch is likely a 2-3 plan for him.   Winning a Super Bowl involved.. playing with Von in the guaranteed years of his contract, playing opposite Diggs, with Allen etc..

 

But if the pitch is here’s some money, here’s some incentives to be paid at a later date, and good luck in Free Agency after the season, I can’t imagine we’d waste our time today.  
 

Willing to be surprised but I think this is a 2-3 year deal with Dallas or Buffalo. 

[Donuts and Doritos]

Interesting breakdown of the contenders. Didn't realize we're projected to be $5 million over the cap for next season. If this happens Beane will need to do some contract gymnastics.

 

https://www.nj.com/giants/2022/12/giants-hosted-odell-beckham-jr-first-heres-why-they-are-third-on-list-of-likely-landing-spots.html

[Mark Vader]

5 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

the whole "go to ___________ to win the Super Bowl" is a tough call.

 

Last year in the "13 seconds game" everyone said "these are the 2 best teams! THIS should be the Super Bowl!"

 

And then we watched the Bengals and Rams in the big dance

The NFL wanted parity

[thenorthremembers]

1 minute ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Interesting breakdown of the contenders. Didn't realize we're projected to be $5 million over the cap for next season. If this happens Beane will need to do some contract gymnastics.

 

https://www.nj.com/giants/2022/12/giants-hosted-odell-beckham-jr-first-heres-why-they-are-third-on-list-of-likely-landing-spots.html

They have a bunch of contract restructures they can do to get to 43 million under pretty quickly 

[Mark Vader]

2 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Interesting breakdown of the contenders. Didn't realize we're projected to be $5 million over the cap for next season. If this happens Beane will need to do some contract gymnastics.

 

https://www.nj.com/giants/2022/12/giants-hosted-odell-beckham-jr-first-heres-why-they-are-third-on-list-of-likely-landing-spots.html

Beane is a gold medalist at that.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Interesting breakdown of the contenders. Didn't realize we're projected to be $5 million over the cap for next season. If this happens Beane will need to do some contract gymnastics.

 

https://www.nj.com/giants/2022/12/giants-hosted-odell-beckham-jr-first-heres-why-they-are-third-on-list-of-likely-landing-spots.html

Podcast guys have done great breakdowns of the Bills future cap situation. 
 

In summary, we are fine.  
 

We’ll likely lose some guys like Poyer, Singletary, luxury vets as role players etc., but we have restructures available and all of our main future draft picks.  
 

We’re in good shape.  

[rayray808]

11 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Podcast guys have done great breakdowns of the Bills future cap situation. 
 

In summary, we are fine.  
 

We’ll likely lose some guys like Poyer, Singletary, luxury vets as role players etc., but we have restructures available and all of our main future draft picks.  
 

We’re in good shape.  

 

"lose some guys like Poyer" - ummmmmm that's a pretty huge loss (especially since we are 8-0 with him on the field this year)

 

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

 

"lose some guys like Poyer" - ummmmmm that's a pretty huge loss (especially since we are 8-0 with him on the field this year)

 

Sure.  Can’t keep everyone.   This is something every team with an elite QB deals with. 

[TheBrownBear]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Von lives next door to McDermott and they want to be able to really party 😉

I'm picturing Dorsey's "binocular guy" peering out an upstairs window at McDermott's, binoculars fixed on Von's house at all times.

[KDIGGZ]

1 hour ago, nkreed said:

Interesting that he'd hang at Josh's house and not Von's. That said, both places are GREAT places to hang at (I'd assume).

Von's house is a somewhat modest (by NFL standards at least) $1 million house in a development with a lot of neighbors. Josh's house is estimated to be worth in the $4 million range and the most expensive house in WNY (until Alex Tuch builds his 10,000+ sq ft house in Clarence). Josh has a par 3 golf hole in his back yard and his pool house alone is bigger than probably most houses in the area. Needless to say Josh's house is much nicer

[Mango]

38 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I don’t think “Come to Buffalo and help us win a Super Bowl” is a pitch that works today… at all … and I’m pretty sure that’s not the pitch. 
 

Beckham has clearly signaled he doesn’t want a short term deal.   Given that I highly doubt Dallas is only offering a one year deal, that would mean the pitch is likely a 2-3 plan for him.   Winning a Super Bowl involved.. playing with Von in the guaranteed years of his contract, playing opposite Diggs, with Allen etc..

 

But if the pitch is here’s some money, here’s some incentives to be paid at a later date, and good luck in Free Agency after the season, I can’t imagine we’d waste our time today.  
 

Willing to be surprised but I think this is a 2-3 year deal with Dallas or Buffalo. 

 

I would dislike. The Bills have 20+ FA with important pieces to replace/re-sign like Edmunds, Poyer, and Morse. We lose 3 of our starting OL and a good portion of our DL depth. Not to mention we have zero space next year. Signing Beckham to a multi year deal at a starting WR price feels irresponsible. 

 

 

TL;DR If we grab Beckham on a multi year deal and draft a new starting MLB and/or S in the first only to ignore other position groups, I will be pissed.

 

Edited December 2, 2022 by Mango

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

I would dislike. The Bills have 20+ FA with important pieces to replace/re-sign like Edmunds, Poyer, and Morse. We 3 of our starting OL and a good portion of our DL depth. Not to mention we have zero space next year. Signing Beckham to a multi year deal feels irresponsible. 

 

 

They can likely backload the Edmunds contract, as he’s a young, talented player who should be a good bet to live up to his contract. 
 

I think it’s likely guys like Poyer & Singletary walk for contracts elsewhere.
 

We have restructures available that don’t hamstring our future, especially with Beane never trading away major picks.
 

Where an OBJ multi-year deal probably hurts us is in finding a little extra here and there for some of the Jordan Phillips, Daquan Jones, Tim Settle, Roger Saffold type signings we saw last year.  

[MiltonWaddams]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

They can likely backload the Edmunds contract, as he’s a young, talented player who should be a good bet to live up to his contract. 
 

I think it’s likely guys like Poyer & Singletary walk for contracts elsewhere.
 

We have restructures available that don’t hamstring our future, especially with Beane never trading away major picks.
 

Where an OBJ multi-year deal probably hurts us is in finding a little extra here and there for some of the Jordan Phillips, Daquan Jones, Tim Settle, Roger Saffold type signings we saw last year.  

I just always forget to take into account the fact that Edmunds is still only 18 years old…

[Mango]

22 minutes ago, SCBills said:

They can likely backload the Edmunds contract, as he’s a young, talented player who should be a good bet to live up to his contract. 
 

I think it’s likely guys like Poyer & Singletary walk for contracts elsewhere.
 

We have restructures available that don’t hamstring our future, especially with Beane never trading away major picks.
 

Where an OBJ multi-year deal probably hurts us is in finding a little extra here and there for some of the Jordan Phillips, Daquan Jones, Tim Settle, Roger Saffold type signings we saw last year.  

I would rather give a multi year OBJ valued contract to Poyer. We know his value to this roster. We don’t know what OBJ will bring. 

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, Mango said:

I would rather give a multi year OBJ valued contract to Poyer. We know his value to this roster. We don’t know what OBJ will bring. 

Fair enough.  
 

I think both are risky.   Poyer due to his age and OBJ due to his injury history.  
 

That being said, the payoff for hitting on OBJ and having a monster WR2 for Josh is much, much higher than the payoff of having Poyer and Hyde at Safety next year.  (IMO)

[YoloinOhio]

46 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Von's house is a somewhat modest (by NFL standards at least) $1 million house in a development with a lot of neighbors. Josh's house is estimated to be worth in the $4 million range and the most expensive house in WNY (until Alex Tuch builds his 10,000+ sq ft house in Clarence). Josh has a par 3 golf hole in his back yard and his pool house alone is bigger than probably most houses in the area. Needless to say Josh's house is much nicer

Also, Sam Martin is currently living with Von and no one ever invites the punter. He has to stay home with a tv dinner tonight. 

[gordong]

wish we would get some news ...has he even made it here?  

 

[Charles Romes]

35 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

 

Where an OBJ multi-year deal probably hurts us is in finding a little extra here and there for some of the Jordan Phillips, Daquan Jones, Tim Settle, Roger Saffold type signings we saw last year.  

 
thus turning us into the 2022 Rams 

Edited December 2, 2022 by Charles Romes

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

 
thus turning us into the 2022 Rams 

No.  Not at all.  Heavy push back on that.  
 

The Rams traded picks for Stafford.  Picks for Ramsey.  Picks for Von. 
 

They built up a SB winner that was a house of cards.   The minute they lost Von and had some injuries, it all came crashing down. 
 

That is not the Bills, nor is it the Chiefs. 
 

Unfortunately for us, and for them, both front offices subscribe to the vision of short term AND long term success around an elite QB. 
 

Bills have all of their main future picks.  If we were the Rams, we’d be loading up for this year with a team going into next year with no Day 1 or Day 2 picks, no restructure levers to pull on young players and a team already starving for depth.  
 

That is, unequivocally, not us .. whether we sign OBJ or not. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I wonder if OBJ is doing physicals with all these teams on his visits. I have concerns that he can even play this year. 

[Greg S]

Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I wonder if OBJ is doing physicals with all these teams on his visits. I have concerns that he can even play this year. 

 

Probably. Look at from the team's point of view. You can bet they are doing their due diligence.

[Donuts and Doritos]

Latest news I could find:

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/odell-beckham-jr-has-good-visit-with-brian-daboll-giants-bills-cowboys-next

[Virgil]

Him reuniting with the Giants would make sense.  They need a #1 guy and the NFC is a toss up.  
 

However, him on the outside and Gabe in the slot is simply dangerous 

[YoloinOhio]

4 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Him reuniting with the Giants would make sense.  They need a #1 guy and the NFC is a toss up.  
 

However, him on the outside and Gabe in the slot is simply dangerous 

The nfc isn’t a toss up that includes the NYG.

[Greg S]

5 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Him reuniting with the Giants would make sense.  They need a #1 guy and the NFC is a toss up.  
 

However, him on the outside and Gabe in the slot is simply dangerous 

 

Even with OBJ the Giants aren't getting past the Eagles, Cowboys, or 49ers. 

[Warriorspikes51]

If the medical team thinks he's good to go, offer him a 4 year deal to spread $$ out with an out option for us after next season 

[ngbills]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Podcast guys have done great breakdowns of the Bills future cap situation. 
 

In summary, we are fine.  
 

We’ll likely lose some guys like Poyer, Singletary, luxury vets as role players etc., but we have restructures available and all of our main future draft picks.  
 

We’re in good shape.  

Just playing with Restrux on sportrac I found $50M in cap space very easily- allen, diggs and some others. 

[Warriorspikes51]

Von can redo his deal for his buddy 

[Donuts and Doritos]

So yesterday O'Dell tweeted about his new floss care product:

 

https://twitter.com/obj/status/1598377882409062400?s=20&t=97B5B-G00bz4hLr8TPyJOg

 

Today he's coming to visit Buffalo. Where, as we all know the most prolific flosser in the NFL plays. 

 

 

 

 

Coincidence? I think not. Proof positive he's coming here (at least for the weekend). I rest my case.

 

[strive_for_five_guy]

2 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

Even with OBJ the Giants aren't getting past the Eagles, Cowboys, or 49ers. 

And if you’re OBJ, the Bills and Cowboys are better rental and multi year options than the Giants.  Who knows who the Giants QB will be next year.  If the Bills aren’t in on the multi year deal option, OBJ should end up with the Cowboys,

unless the Giants are willing to way overpay.

[Greg S]

Just now, strive_for_five_guy said:

And if you’re OBJ, the Bills and Cowboys are better rental and multi year options than the Giants.  Who knows who the Giants QB will be next year.  If the Bills aren’t in on the multi year deal option, OBJ should end up with the Cowboys,

unless the Giants are willing to way overpay.

 

JMHO but I don't want OBJ here on a multi-year deal. Injuries plus he is a bit of diva. If the Bills do sign him, I hope for the rest of this year only. 

[Mango]

7 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

And if you’re OBJ, the Bills and Cowboys are better rental and multi year options than the Giants.  Who knows who the Giants QB will be next year.  If the Bills aren’t in on the multi year deal option, OBJ should end up with the Cowboys,

unless the Giants are willing to way overpay.

 

 

There isn't a better rental in the league than the Bills and Chiefs. Honorable mention to the Eagles. 

 

I think the city itself is important to OBJ, and Buffalo is only on the table because of Von. He wants to be a in a major city. Long term/short term competitiveness weighed, Dallas is probably the best fit for him and the most willing to give him a multi-year decent value deal.