Boomer Esiason suggests the Bills should trade for Barkley

[ColoradoBills]

15 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

C’mon man.  
josh Allen’s salary is ~$18 million. After 3 games probably $15 million. Convert that to $6 million bonus and $9 million salary. Done. 
 

Yes, it might not be wise because you’re making the cap in 2023-2028 that much worse. 
 

But it can be done. It’s not rocket science. 

 

Come on man.  I said there are 2 players (one being Josh) they can use to restructure.

That's it.

NOT any of the 53 on the roster.  That was the discussion.

[Captain Caveman]

I hope the Bills are paying someone to just follow everything Boomer Esiason says we should do to make sure we do the opposite.  

[pennstate10]

6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Come on man.  I said there are 2 players (one being Josh) they can use to restructure.

That's it.

NOT any of the 53 on the roster.  That was the discussion.

Nope. You’ve moved the goalposts. The discussion was to find a way to free up $6 million. Someone in this thread (probably you) said that the poster who said it was easily done was “BS ing”. 
I simply pointed out a straightforward way. 

[ColoradoBills]

2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

LOL.  I shouldn't have let the conversation get to where it's at.  If you're giving me some sarcasm, I probably deserve it.

If it's not it should have its own thread.  I'm not the only one who enjoys that kind of stuff.

 

Just in case, I will say, there are only 6 players (not 53) with salaries above $2M who could MAYBE be restructured right now.

I use $2M because you can't restructure Base Salary to zero.  It has to be at least player minimum.

 

4 of them are on the last year of their contracts so any restructure goes to dead cap next year.

That leaves Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs (and Diggs has already restructured and had his money pushed out).

 

Open up the Spotrac site and click to sort on "Base Salary".  Edmunds will be on top.  He's not restructuring without a new contract.

Same goes with Poyer, Keenum and Oliver.  There's a lot more to this stuff, but that is the basics.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/

 

EDIT:  Sorry, linked wrong site.  This is right.

 

5 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

Nope. You’ve moved the goalposts. The discussion was to find a way to free up $6 million. Someone in this thread (probably you) said that the poster who said it was easily done was “BS ing”. 
I simply pointed out a straightforward way. 

 

Read my bolded.  I'm done with the conversation.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

8 hours ago, Billz4ever said:

So is the O-line holding out?  They are going to open holes and get a push for Barkley, but just don't feel like it for any of the 3 we have?  It doesn't matter who's in the backfield if there's nowhere for them to go.

Some of y'all must be watching different games than me because outside of the Rams game, there have been no holes opened up and zero push by this O-line.  Unless Barkley can magically block for himself too, how will he even make the slightest bit of difference?

This is the exact reason they need a back like Barkley. A guy who can create on his own 

[DapperCam]

NFC stinks, Giants might be in position for the wild card. Why would they trade one of their best players?

[Jay_Fixit]

On 9/28/2022 at 12:41 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Depends if the Giants pay most of his salary. 

Your money is it?

[pennstate10]

7 hours ago, Billz4ever said:

But you're the one claiming it can be done without knowing.  Unless Beane has personally told you that it can, you're BSing.  You don't know.

 

And FYI, it's not on me to prove a negative.  You are the one claiming something can be done, it's on you to prove it can be.  That's how logic works.

Bills RBs had 20 carries for 89 yards in that game.

 

The passing game won us that game and it was the passing game that opened up the running game after the game was out of control.  We did not run particularly well in that game and certainly didn't in the Miami game.

 

3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

 

Read my bolded.  I'm done with the conversation.

Read the post you responded to. 
To understand the topic of a thread, you may want to read the comments

Believe it or not, the topic of a thread isn’t simply what you claim it is.

Just like no one can declassify Top Secret documents simply by thinking about it. 

[Bronxbomber21]

On 9/28/2022 at 3:38 PM, The Red King said:

Problem is o-line.  Defenders are in our backfield on runs up the middle.  I don't care who you have at running back, it's not gonna work.

Can you imagine what Barkley could do with those same 9 catches Singletary had out of the backfield last Sunday 😳 

[JoshAllin]

15 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

Can you imagine what Barkley could do with those same 9 catches Singletary had out of the backfield last Sunday 😳 

8.67 yards per catch isn't too shabby though from singletary in those 9 catches, barkley is averaging 7 yards this year so I'd imagine just about the same production.

[Bronxbomber21]

5 minutes ago, motorj said:

8.67 yards per catch isn't too shabby though from singletary in those 9 catches, barkley is averaging 7 yards this year so I'd imagine just about the same production.

I would imagine him having a whole lot more space in our offense to work with 

[JoshAllin]

15 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

I would imagine him having a whole lot more space in our offense to work with 

I'm hoping cook can deliver instead

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Your money is it?

We don’t have the cap space at the moment.

[Billz4ever]

15 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

This is the exact reason they need a back like Barkley. A guy who can create on his own 

The guy ain't barry sanders and if he's getting met in the backfield, he's not going to be creating much of anything. Not even mentioning what he would cost.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Before trading for a RB, I'd make sure the answer isn't on the roster in James Cook taking more snaps. 

[Billz4ever]

12 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

Can you imagine what Barkley could do with those same 9 catches Singletary had out of the backfield last Sunday 😳 

Yes, you can imagine, dream, wish upon a star and make up hypotheticals.  We don't know and will never know.

[Billz4ever]

7 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Before trading for a RB, I'd make sure the answer isn't on the roster in James Cook taking more snaps. 

Crazy how fast it seems some people have written this dude off already.

 

I've never understood the coaching mindset of some teams who always bring in a certain backs simply on 3rd or passing downs because of their pass catching ability.

 

You're telegraphing your plays.  Not saying we're doing that, but it feels like he's being used more as a pass catcher/route runner and teams will pick up on that.  Anyone who watched Cook in college knows he can run the ball.  I'm all for giving him more playing time. He's a dual threat.  The further we can get from his 1st carry fumble, the better off we'll all be.  Build his confidence.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 30, 2022 by Billz4ever

[appoo]

First of all, we could get the Giants to eat his salary, second if you can get Saquon freakin Barkley for for a 3rd or even 2nd, you do it in a HEARTBEAT.

 

That's a no brainer. And yes he'd make the OLine look MUCH better. 

14 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Your money is it?

No but the Bills have a salary cap which needs to adhered to

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

2 hours ago, Billz4ever said:

The guy ain't barry sanders and if he's getting met in the backfield, he's not going to be creating much of anything. Not even mentioning what he would cost.

Look, I don’t agree with the economics of the whole situation and what it would cost. I’m just speaking on having him as a player. Nope, not Barry Sanders, but who really is?

[Billz4ever]

19 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Look, I don’t agree with the economics of the whole situation and what it would cost. I’m just speaking on having him as a player. Nope, not Barry Sanders, but who really is?

It simply seems like a lot of people have unrealistic expectations of what it means to bring in RB when your line hasn't been able to get a push or open holes even if that RB is better than what you have currently.

[Warcodered]

More people just want nice things for Barkley I guess.

 

 

[Norcalbillsfan]

I highly doubt a 3rd gets it done, and iam firm against signing rbs to contracts, and i still want to see cook actually get some work, but to put it in perspective if by the trade deadline and the bills are looking healthy and still front runners. A 3rd round pick for a guy that at a minimum is twice the rb we have and we instantly get twice as good at rb on a super bowl run doesn't sound crazy to me. 

[Solomon Grundy]

Giants won't budge as long as they are winning

[Norcalbillsfan]

Just now, Solomon Grundy said:

Giants won't budge as long as they are winning

True the nfc is a bit of a joke, giants are looking at a path to a wild card

[Solomon Grundy]

4 hours ago, Warcodered said:

More people just want nice things for Barkley I guess.

 

 

Better chance at Josh Jacobs?? 

[L Ron Burgundy]

34 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Giants won't budge as long as they are winning

They won't keep it up.  They kinda suck.  Good on Daboll he's making the absolute most out of that roster.

[Greg S]

Barkley yesterday 31 carries for 146 yards. 

[Shortchaz]

Barkley isn’t a fit for this team/scheme 

 

 

[SCBills]

I’d offer Moss and a 4th for whatever kind of economically feasible upgrade we can get.  
 

If that means no upgrade, so be it.  Im not trading a Top 100 pick when we need those for OL/WR & potentially LB/S. 
 

We need an outside WR more than a RB right now.   Nobody is fearing a hobbled Davis and McKenzie.  (Crowder has been useless and it’s probably time to give Shakir his shot given the inevitable Crowder injury)

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

Look, I would love Saquon on the team. But to put it bluntly that's a cap hit right there. If I'm spending resources at the midseason mark it's for a DB to cover for the multitude of injuries or WR for the same reason plus wanting an elite #2 because even healthy the Davis, McK, Crowder, Shakir, Kumerow combination has not been mind-blowing 

 

[DapperCam]

9-8 probably makes the wildcard, so the Giants only need to go 6-7 the rest of the way to make it. They still have 2 games vs Washington, a game against the Texans, and the Seahawks. They won’t trade Saquon.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Maybe we can rectify a mistake and find a way to trade for DK Metcalf somehow.

 

[H2o]

13 hours ago, Warcodered said:

More people just want nice things for Barkley I guess.

 

 

The Giants are right in the thick of the Playoff hunt in the weak NFC. Barkley isn't going anywhere. Both Daboll and Schoen know how big a part of the offense this guy is. 

 

 

9 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Better chance at Josh Jacobs?? 

Before yesterday? Probably. But after McDaniels finally realized he needs to run Jacobs to win? Not likely to happen now. 

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said:

Maybe we can rectify a mistake and find a way to trade for DK Metcalf somehow.

 

Can't wait to see how many sacks he gets.

[Greg S]

The have a QB problem now. Both Jones and Taylor got hurt yesterday. They were running a lot of plays out of the wildcat with Barkley taking the snaps. 

[Teddy KGB]

I’d rather go after unwanted guys like Damien Harris or Josh Jacobs. 

[extrahammer]

I think if we were to trade for Barkley, this week and maybe next week would be the weeks to make a move. I think this week would be great because we could potentially use him for the KC game. Schoen and Daboll weren't really in Barkley's canoe when asked about a potential trade of Barkley earlier in the year. I wonder how much of that has changed these first 4 weeks of the season. But can you imagine trading for him this week and having him for the KC game? 🍻

[SCBills]

I'm ok with looking around for a RB upgrade, but if I'm Beane, I'm more looking at what Moss and a 4th can bring back... if that's nothing, so be it.  

 

A 3rd gets pricey for a rental and anything higher is just ridiculous. 

[Greg S]

5 minutes ago, extrahammer said:

I think if we were to trade for Barkley, this week and maybe next week would be the weeks to make a move. I think this week would be great because we could potentially use him for the KC game. Schoen and Daboll weren't really in Barkley's canoe when asked about a potential trade of Barkley earlier in the year. I wonder how much of that has changed these first 4 weeks of the season. But can you imagine trading for him this week and having him for the KC game? 🍻

 

I don't see the Giants trading Barkley now that they are off to a good start. He is their best player and playing in the weak NFC they might feel they can compete for a WC. Although their QB situation is a mess right now. If the Bills were to get Barkley he would join Allen and Diggs and give the Bills 3 dangerous weapons on offense.

[Simon Says]

On 9/28/2022 at 3:37 PM, ColoradoBills said:

Just to give Barkley's cost.  He is making $425k per game this season.

His cap hit for 10 games is $4.25M.

 

Beane currently has $1.88M before whatever Xavier ends up costing.

Isn't it sad that we have to remind the day dreamers about the salary cap? I wish they would take it into consideration  before suggesting their trade targets.