Do you have a problem with fans standing the entire game?

[JohnnyBuffalo]

You buy a ticket for a seat….use it.    
 

if something exciting happens and the spirit moves you….jump up and dance around.   But when the pretty girl gets out of view sit back down and be considerate of those behind/around you.  
 

Go Bills!

[Fdapats]

23 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Explain how standing “makes it more fun”.  Can’t wait for the response. 

 

Hmm, didn't think this needed explanation.  Ever been to a rock concert where everyone is sitting vs one everyone is standing.  Which one feels more exciting?  Maybe for a Dick Jauron team it is more appropriate to sit, but for Josh Allen and the SB favorites on MNF LFG.

[US Egg]

The clincher to standing all game is to have the added luxury of standing is being behind giant obnoxious head attire guy or fan raising signs to further obstruct viewing the actual event rather than watch the scoreboard like a big TV.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

 

For the most part this is going to be younger and healthy vs older and/or with ailments. Simple solution would be to start selling sections for fans that prefer to stand and sections for fans who prefer to sit.

[Just Jack]

2 hours ago, mrags said:

I’ve also sat quite a bit in the clubs the last few years and I’ll say it is very comfortable being able to sit all game. But a few times on 3rd down where you want to stand and cheer, make some noise, bangs on seats, you get yelled at from just about everyone. Completely different crowd. 

 

Clubs have changed, at least in my section.  I'd say for Monday night, people were standing more that 50% of the time.  For last years Pats* playoff game, it was closer to 90% standing during the game.  To the point it was like "not even gonna bother to sit back down, cause I'm just gonna have to stand up again". 

[stevewin]

1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said:

I don’t disagree with what’s right,

but none of us are going to change it.  It is what it is.  My 92 yr old dad hasn’t been to a game in decades because he can’t.  He’d rather watch on tv anyway, and he’s very ambulatory and goofs once a week with little problems.

I get it - but there's also a difference between being in a whole section/level that is standing, and being the only ones in a section/area and impeding the people behind.  Stand when others normally do for 3rd down stops etc, but also have some courtesy/awareness of what's going on around you the rest of the time.

 

My Dad looks forward the whole year to when me and my brother (and now our sons) take him to a game.  He will never want to give that up.

 

I'm curious what the ADA seating is going to look like in the new stadium (when the renderings come out?)  Last year we convinced my Dad to let us wheel him in cause he had an injury, but still sat in regular seats.  The ADA options are limited at the current stadium, wondering if they'll be expanded

[Victory Formation]

I sit down most of the time, but if the Bills make a big play I’ll stand up but then I’ll sit back down again. 

[Just Jack]

1 minute ago, BUFFALOBART said:

Concerts feel the *SAME*. For the Encore, everyone stands, but that is the end of the show

 

Depends on the venue also.  I was at the Seneca casino in Salamaca last weekend for a concert.  It was held in their convention center, so a flat floor venue with regular seats.  You had to stand the entire time, only sitting between bands, if you wanted to see the stage. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

2 hours ago, Awwufelloff said:

Nope I stand the entire game. Good workout and more involved crowd 

If you’re there for the workout, standing up and sitting down will also burn calories.

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

The clincher to standing all game is to have the added luxury of standing is being behind giant obnoxious head attire guy or fan raising signs to further obstruct viewing the actual event rather than watch the scoreboard like a big TV.

 

I’m afraid that is where the sniper rifle comes in?

 

Just a guess, not an admission of any kind, in any state. 

[Just Jack]

4 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

For the most part this is going to be younger and healthy vs older and/or with ailments. Simple solution would be to start selling sections for fans that prefer to stand and sections for fans who prefer to sit.

 

I've often thought the Bills should take one of the smaller corner sections of the 100 level, pull out all the seats, and make it a standing section, for those that want to stand the entire game.  

[JohnnyBuffalo]

Hopefully the new stadium planners are paying attention to this thread and can create ample of standing only sections for all these super excitable people that can’t be interested in something while sitting.  
 

Wonder what happens when they chew gum and are required to walk some where.   
 

 

Edited September 23, 2022 by JohnnyBuffalo
Change can to can’t so the joke makes sense

[Augie]

1 minute ago, Just Jack said:

 

I've often thought the Bills should take one of the smaller corner sections of the 100 level, pull out all the seats, and make it a standing section, for those that want to stand the entire game.  

 

Don’t they (or did they used to) have a “family section” in the end zone?  I’m cool with the idea of a “sit your ass down” section, but I’m not sure how you enforce it, especially upon resale. There will always be “that guy” but a bunch of like minded people should be able to flock. I’d love that. Check that box on your season ticket renewal and voilà! 

[Bills!Win!]

52 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

I had an issue years ago when I brought my two very young nephews 8 and 6 to a game with the rows in front of us not only standing, but standing on the seats. Poor kids couldn’t see anything. 
I politely asked if they could sit or not stand on the seats, that didn’t go over well. Later I asked if they could just leave one seat open so the boys could see through. That time I was threatened by roughly 10 drunk guys and they continued on joking about what they should do to me. 
Couple minutes later one of those fine gentleman turned around and accidentally dumped his beer perfectly between my large chested girlfriends ummmm chest. He politely offered to clean it off. We stood at the top of the steps and were quickly told by security we couldn’t stand there. They did not care about the issues we had with our seats. And we left shortly after. 
It was a very long time ago. San Diego Chargers. Power went out. Phillip Rivers was throwing temper tantrums on the field over the play clock issues with no power. Last game I attended in Buffalo. Silly drunk fans at every game but I made a bad mistake of bringing very young children to their first game and they almost got to see their favorite uncle get beat up by 10 dudes. I’ll stick to watching on tv 

With the team being elite and the cost of admission being through the roof I had an excellent experience at the game. I’ve been to 10 games and this was the best one. I think the price of admission keeps the partying riff raff out 

[Augie]

1 minute ago, HOUSE said:

But he lives by the Factory of Sadness, so what do you expect? 

[machine gun kelly]

8 minutes ago, stevewin said:

I get it - but there's also a difference between being in a whole section/level that is standing, and being the only ones in a section/area and impeding the people behind.  Stand when others normally do for 3rd down stops etc, but also have some courtesy/awareness of what's going on around you the rest of the time.

 

My Dad looks forward the whole year to when me and my brother (and now our sons) take him to a game.  He will never want to give that up.

 

I'm curious what the ADA seating is going to look like in the new stadium (when the renderings come out?)  Last year we convinced my Dad to let us wheel him in cause he had an injury, but still sat in regular seats.  The ADA options are limited at the current stadium, wondering if they'll be expanded

All good Steve and philosophically, I agree with you 100%.  I didn’t want you to think otherwise.  I just gave up years ago trying to chg these guys.

 

Ill give you an example.  My eldest who was 22 at the time were at a Bucs game it must be a decade ago.  We’re in the nose bleeds of Ray Jay in December.

 I know you’d not think it,

but 35 degrees and windy.  Two Seattle guys as our opponents were dropping F bombs like it was going out of style so not standing, but give me a second.  I called over the beer girl and bought them each a beer.  I asked them “guys my 12 yr old son and those women who are in front of you who are elderly don’t need to hear that”.  I’m asking you politely to drop the F bombs and just be aware of you’re surroundings.  They actually did and apologized.  I told them not me, apologize to those beautiful ladies (they were in their 70’s). They were so embarrassed.  I told them cheer, just please cheer clean.

 

They could’ve told me to F off and I would’ve had to walk away.  Best $15 I spent getting these knuckleheads to be respectful of kids and women, especially the elderly.

[Rc2catch]

8 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

With the team being elite and the cost of admission being through the roof I had an excellent experience at the game. I’ve been to 10 games and this was the best one. I think the price of admission keeps the partying riff raff out 

I’m in Tennessee now.. If I’m gonna make a trip up there it’ll be when the new stadium is ready. I better start saving some money now lol 

[stevewin]

3 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

All good Steve and philosophically, I agree with you 100%.  I didn’t want you to think otherwise.  I just gave up years ago trying to chg these guys.

 

Ill give you an example.  My eldest who was 22 at the time were at a Bucs game it must be a decade ago.  We’re in the nose bleeds of Ray Jay in December.

 I know you’d not think it,

but 35 degrees and windy.  Two Seattle guys as our opponents were dropping F bombs like it was going out of style so not standing, but give me a second.  I called over the beer girl and bought them each a beer.  I asked them “guys my 12 yr old son and those women who are in front of you who are elderly don’t need to hear that”.  I’m asking you politely to drop the F bombs and just be aware of you’re surroundings.  They actually did and apologized.  I told them not me, apologize to those beautiful ladies (they were in their 70’s). They were so embarrassed.  I told them cheer, just please cheer clean.

 

They could’ve told me to F off and I would’ve had to walk away.  Best $15 I spent getting these knuckleheads to be respectful of kids and women, especially the elderly.

If I bought beers for the idiots in front of us that I referred to earlier they probably would have chugged it and gave us the finger - or passed out before they finished - which in hindsight might have been a good strategy 😛

[ChasBB]

So long as no one elbows me and spills my beer, I'm okay with it 

[The Wiz]

My general rules on standing during the game:

Stand on 3rd down for the other team while cheering/screaming

 

When a deep ball is thrown slowly rise from your seat to a standing position (regardless of the outcome)

 

After a TD/XP.  Stand until after they kick off again. 

 

 

That's just me.   I didn't pay for a seat to stand all game otherwise I would buy a cheap ass seat and in the 300s and stand in the tunnel at the 100 level all game. 

[TheBrownBear]

I try to split the difference and stand on my seat the entire game.

[machine gun kelly]

6 minutes ago, stevewin said:

If I bought beers for the idiots in front of us that I referred to earlier they probably would have chugged it and gave us the finger - or passed out before they finished - which in hindsight might have been a good strategy 😛

I know it was a calculated gamble.  In that scenario it worked, but I was fully aware it was a 50/50 ratio.  Some of these guys you just can’t talk to.  BTW the cute little old ladies grabbed my forearm  walking back to my boy and thanked me.  For me the $15 was nothing if they’d censor themselves.  I’m just not wanting to pick fights at this point.  It’s like idiots I cessantly taking in a movie.  Better to just simply chg seats.

 

Again though, you’re right and 100%.

[Just Jack]

31 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Don’t they (or did they used to) have a “family section” in the end zone? 

 

There is, down in the scoreboard end zone.  

[The Wiz]

13 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

I know it was a calculated gamble.  In that scenario it worked, but I was fully aware it was a 50/50 ratio.  Some of these guys you just can’t talk to.  BTW the cute little old ladies grabbed my forearm  walking back to my boy and thanked me.  For me the $15 was nothing if they’d censor themselves.  I’m just not wanting to pick fights at this point.  It’s like idiots I cessantly taking in a movie.  Better to just simply chg seats.

 

Again though, you’re right and 100%.

I'm pretty sure you commented on where you were sitting at the time earlier in this thread but can't remember so I apologize if this doesn't apply.

 

I have pretty much religiously said I will not go to a game unless I am sitting down in the 100 level that aren't in the endzone seats because the 300 level you get all sorts of everything and the end zone 100 seats are the best cheap seats you can get.

 

I'd rather pay the extra money to be in an area that I at least think will be enjoyable regardless of the game.

 

 

Case and point, I won tickets to a game and the tickets were in the rock pile (think this was in 2000/2001).  Couldn't have been a lesser amount of class than I have ever seen both bills and the other teams fans (the team we played escapes me now).  We were winning the game at the time and a bills fan threw his beer at the other teams fan for no reason.  Right next to him was a bills fan that got covered in beer (splashed down 2 rows on to me and my gf).  The bills fan covered in beer went up and punched the guy right in the face and walked away.  He proceeded to get his friends and come down and start a fight with both of them.  We left the game at that point because everyone was starting to get on edge.

2 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

 

There is, down in the scoreboard end zone.  

They don't allow alcohol in those section but doesn't mean you can't drink at the tailgate or in the tunnel/concourse.  I've seen plenty of trashed people in those sections.

Edited September 23, 2022 by The Wiz

[BfloBillsFan]

I prefer to stand...seats aren't the most comfortable and not always wide enough.

 

IMO, people who buy a ticket have a right to stand just as much as those who have a right to sit

[HOUSE]

This reminds me of a ticket I purchased at the Rockpile. It was directly behind a pole maybe 1 foot away. On the pole was written " enjoying the view, you are so dumb for buying this ticket ".....

[Boatdrinks]

5 minutes ago, BfloBillsFan said:

I prefer to stand...seats aren't the most comfortable and not always wide enough.

 

IMO, people who buy a ticket have a right to stand just as much as those who have a right to sit

Good point. Am I the only one who misses the bench seats? Always enough room in those. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

This reminds me of a ticket I purchased at the Rockpile. It was directly behind a pole maybe 1 foot away. On the pole was written " enjoying the view, you are so dumb for buying this ticket ".....

think my father and I had the sats next to you

[HOUSE]

9 minutes ago, BfloBillsFan said:

I prefer to stand...seats aren't the most comfortable and not always wide enough.

 

IMO, people who buy a ticket have a right to stand just as much as those who have a right to sit

Do you care at all about your fellow Bills fans sitting behind you?

Just curious  ..

[The Wiz]

13 minutes ago, BfloBillsFan said:

I prefer to stand...seats aren't the most comfortable and not always wide enough.

 

IMO, people who buy a ticket have a right to stand just as much as those who have a right to sit

I've never seen someone that didn't fit in a seat elect to stand instead of sit.

 

Gimme that option on an airplane and I'd be happy to stand so someone else's fat isn't sweating on me for 5 hours.

Edited September 23, 2022 by The Wiz

[The Wiz]

12 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Good point. Am I the only one who misses the bench seats? Always enough room in those. 

Are they no longer in the rock pile section?

Edited September 23, 2022 by The Wiz

[NewEra]

For the 2022 Bills, I have no problem with standing the entire game.  Might as well….this team creates stand worthy plays just about every minute.

 

i find standing much more comfortable-  stadium seats are terrible for backs.  I’d rather just stand and dance 🕺 

[akcash]

No. It's your responsibility to yell as loud as you can on every snap the offense doesn't have the Ball. The hype spills over to the offense. 

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

23 minutes ago, BfloBillsFan said:

I prefer to stand...seats aren't the most comfortable and not always wide enough.

 

IMO, people who buy a ticket have a right to stand just as much as those who have a right to sit

If someone decides to stand, the people behind them no longer have the option to sit. There is no “right” to stand all game.  

[The Wiz]

6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

For the 2022 Bills, I have no problem with standing the entire game.  Might as well….this team creates stand worthy plays just about every minute.

 

i find standing much more comfortable-  stadium seats are terrible for backs.  I’d rather just stand and dance 🕺 

Standing on concrete is worse for your back than being uncomfortable for a few hours in a plastic seat that has give.   

 

That's partly why the metal bench seats were done away with. The more give they have, they better they are for you to conform to. 

[HOUSE]

So , we are blaming uncomfortable seats now? THE WHOLE STADIUM HATES THE SEATS....I GET IT NOW

[SoMAn]

3 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said:

OH, YES.

Everyone stands for big plays, but it is idiotic to stand otherwise, when you can see perfectly fine, from your seat. The team is not going to play better, and all that THESE PEOPLE accomplish, is that they obstruct the view, of the fans behind them.

There used to be such a thing, as 'Being Considerate Of Others'.

 

As much as I love being in that stadium to see my Bills, this is one of the issues that has kept me from going in recent years. We see that amazing crowd on TV and my wife says how much she wants to go again, but standing barely 5 ft tall, she’d be stuck watching the Jumbotron for most of the game. 
    I went to see The Who at the hockey Arena in Atlanta (22 years ago this week).  Some damn yankee I’d met through a Bills’ message board had come down from upstate NY with his yankee attitude and was sitting next to me. He almost got into it at the concert with some guys in front of us who wouldn’t sit.  I wonder whatever happened to him. Probably got his yankee arse kicked eventually. 😉

[LabattBlue]

1 hour ago, 34-78-83 said:

…And yes by the way, it does make a difference when standing up if you're going to be screaming your head off trying to help get the opposing offense to false start or have trouble hearing audibles. Why?, because the diaphragm and lung expansion and your ability to project vocally increases when standing. This is why choir singers typically stand and musical stage performers (which I do on weekends) who sing typically stand. Its just science. Folks can look it up if they like. (someone laughed at that point earlier but its true)

 

There are zero reasons to stand up while your team is on offense outside of quick celebrations.

 

"The standing position also assists in good singing technique. Breathing from your diaphragm rather than from your chest will maximize the amount of air you can get into your lungs. This in turn will let you get the maximum amount of power and strength from your voice, and to control it with minimum effort. Standing allows for full movement of the diaphragm, whereas sitting can squash it and restrict its movement."

https://www.smartrapper.com/is-it-better-to-sit-or-stand-while-recording-rap-vocals/ , https://coolcommunicator.com/how-to-project-your-voice/ , https://standdesk.co/blogs/news/how-standing-up-when-you-record-your-voice-improves-your-presence , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_projection ,

- Facts

Awesome!   😂

 

You are probably the same poster from last time this was discussed.  

Edited September 23, 2022 by LabattBlue

[Wayne Arnold]

3 hours ago, HOUSE said:

Simple question, go for it !

 

Yes. Stand on big 3rd downs and touchdowns. Other than that, sit the f down.

[blacklabel]

Stand up for the big plays obviously, but yeah, I paid to see the game, not your back or the crack'a yo a$$. It gets irritating when people just refuse to sit down. It's like... wow, a first and ten draw up the middle for three, better start doing backflips!