Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.

[K-9]

Just now, Einstein said:

 

I’m not here to argue gray areas of legal statutes. Just thought you’d be interested to know he was actually 21 at the time. 

[KDIGGZ]

2 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

It just shocks me that a lawyer is airing this stuff on twitter. It seems so desperate and amateur. If you have a strong case, why would you pull idiotic stunts like this?  It seems his main concern is  about winning in the court of public opinion. 

And I think that's what he is trying to do. He wants public outrage so he can go on TV shows and make more money

[NoHuddleKelly12]

The girl’s attorney is behaving like a billboard special…you know the ones, catchy slogans to reel in the personal injury cases so he can take almost half of a recovery for which precious little is done besides a few letters. But hey, that’s our system. 

[SoMAn]

2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

According to the ESPN article posted above, the Bills found out after drafting him, but before releasing Haack and naming Araiza the starter. The point still stands for sure, the Bills obviously felt comfortable with what they found. I can guarantee that detectives in the SCU would care and probably wouldn't be swayed by outside sources to disregard a case, but you never know. I think the fact that they didn't pursue criminal charges after investigating it is telling. They even recorded a conversation between the woman and Araiza. Maybe there is still time to make this a criminal case, but you'd think that would've already happened if it was desired.

Who is this Jane Doe anyway?  She seems to get into trouble quite a lot.  

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

What is that girl's lawyer doing? What a dirtbag. I'm not taking anyone's side, but that lawyer is an absolute piece of trash

She wants her rape kit results. She wants information on the criminal investigation. She claims no one is cooperating with her. She’s the victim. It’s been almost a year. Imagine.

Edited August 26, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Einstein]

Just now, K-9 said:

I’m not here to argue gray areas of legal statutes. Just thought you’d be interested to know he was actually 21 at the time. 

 

Neither am I.

 

I was simply showing where I got that information from.

[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

It just shocks me that a lawyer is airing this stuff on twitter. It seems so desperate and amateur. If you have a strong case, why would you pull idiotic stunts like this?  It seems his main concern is  about winning in the court of public opinion. 

 

He's reminding me of Casey Anthony's attorney.

[ExWNYer]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Not worth the headache and the kid obviously put himself in a bad situation whether he’s guilty or not… that being said, if this guy couldn’t punt the ***** out of the ball he would’ve been released six weeks ago…. They are partly keeping him around(at least so far) because he’s good at his job.

 

Welcome to the NFL where winning and the almighty dollar is king.

[Eastside Oasis]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

 

This says differently.  3 years is the magic number, but I'm sure that will be part of the legal arguments.

 

 

[Einstein]

Lots of posters showing their true colors in this thread.

[Einstein]

1 minute ago, Eastside Oasis said:

 

This says differently.  3 years is the magic number, but I'm sure that will be part of the legal arguments.

 

 

 

Im certainly no legal expert. The photo I posted was from a law firm. Here is the link:

 

https://www.newmanallen.com/blog/2021/august/what-is-the-age-of-consent-in-california-/

[Mango]

15 minutes ago, extrahammer said:

More from the accuser's attorney. 

 

 

 

 

The first one doesn’t mean much to me. Innocent. Guilty. Get your own attorney. 
 

But the second one…that seems to paint the picture that Araiza has been hiding something and that the Bills may be playing catch up because of it. But now that the Bills attorney is involved, things are different. 

[947]

If Araiza ends up innocent, he has a major libel case over that attorney's twitter post.

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Agreed… I find it funny the fans here when bashing the Browns with the Bills being holier than thou who only employ great people…. Almost impossible in this industry. 

 

The Browns rewarded Watson with a $230 million dollar guaranteed contract after 24 civil cases against him.  There is a difference.

 

This news broke about 14-15 hours ago and we are still waiting on the facts....from one person.

[Eastside Oasis]

It all comes down to the rape kit results.  Just crazy that it's been almost a year and the police won't give the alleged victim the results.

[BeastMaster]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

Is it possible he’s acting this way because of the alleged crimes and the fact they’ve been waiting 10 months for the rape kit results?

 

He was quiet for 10 months. He could’ve made headlines during the draft process. There is an ongoing criminal investigation. 

He didn't make waves during the draft because he didn't want to lose his chance at a nice payday.

 

Let's see what evidence comes out and if criminal charges are filed 

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

To be fair, Tony Buzbee did this too and it helped him force Watson to settle. The court of public opinion is powerful.

Yup.. There’s a lot of Bills fans on Twitter that I would never want in my corner at any point in life.

 

Podcasters desperately trying to get Twitter clout and fans who want him locked up over an accusation.

 

If Araiza did what he’s accused, then he deserves every bit of this, and the Bills deserve the heat for - so far - sticking by him.  
 

If not, or if it’s murky and he’s just a dumb college kid who was in the wrong place at the wrong time… this is a Black Mirror style example of modernity in the court of public opinion. 

[extrahammer]

I would hope for her part her attorney does some media interviews today instead of just tweeting. 

[Bill from NYC]

6 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Do you mean typically in California? In New York, the legal age for consensual sex with an adult is 17.

[SWATeam]

13 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

 

Its a very simple concept, yet we still have people acting as if he's been proven guilty already.

 

Whether they don't understand this simple concept or are simply rejecting it I can't say. What is certain is they aren't adhering to the concept.

 

The concept is a legal one.  Joe Shmoe standing around the water cooler has no power to subject anyone to any criminal consequences.

 

People are discussing these abhorrent claims.  Everyone on the planet knows that he will not be subject to any criminal punishment until found guilty in a court of law.

[Einstein]

1 minute ago, 947 said:

If Araiza ends up innocent, he has a major libel case over that attorney's twitter post.

 

Litigation Privilege would make any libel case very difficult.

[K-9]

1 minute ago, Bandito said:

Lots do. Just walk through your local HS. It is very common

It’s modern culture. I’d bet that this young girl’s parents have some piercings of their own, too. Regardless, suggesting the parents are somehow lacking because of it is a really out of touch comment. 

[Eastside Oasis]

2 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Im certainly no legal expert. The photo I posted was from a law firm. Here is the link:

 

https://www.newmanallen.com/blog/2021/august/what-is-the-age-of-consent-in-california-/

 

Me either, but there seems to be some varying interpretations.  If this goes to court, I am sure that age difference question will be a big one.

[Buffaloflash]

11 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Then you’re woefully ignorant.

 

Parents don’t “allow” many things teens do. Especially a 17 year old who could get piercings at any mall in the country.

If that is the case, then I'm not ignorant,  you parents are ignorant! 

[Einstein]

2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Do you mean typically in California? In New York, the legal age for consensual sex with an adult is 17.

 

Yes in California.

[SCBills]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

Is it possible he’s acting this way because of the alleged crimes and the fact they’ve been waiting 10 months for the rape kit results?

 

He was quiet for 10 months. He could’ve made headlines during the draft process. There is an ongoing criminal investigation. 

So he was quiet until Araiza was given the job officially, and then decides to go nuclear on Twitter with nonstop unprofessional actions?  Not the greatest timeline there.

 

He, at least, had time to clean up his following list of OnlyFans girls and pornstars before making his name off this..

 

Edited August 26, 2022 by SCBills

[DrPJax]

Let’s slow down.  This kid has been upstanding through out his career and comes from a very good family.  He is innocent until some civil or criminal conviction happens.  His attorney stated they have multiple witnesses she was saying she was 18 and was not showing signs of intoxication. This could have been a consensual act with someone posing to be 18 or nothing at all could have happened.  If she went to a hospital , a rape work up with dna / rape,kit / specimens should  have been obtained with records and she would have been treated with meds for exposure to stds and hiv prophylaxsis and plan b etc.   Hard to fathom how this just shows up coincidentally now with no prior red flags or smoke signals.  Hospitals would  surely have security videos to review as well as possible other video cameras in the area. 
 

I find it unlikely  this could have been hidden from the Bills as they supposedly are very thorough in pre draft investigations.  Using common sense , hard to believe with someone of his stature and fame there were no Prior warnings and no trace of abnormal behaviors until now. Just watching his biography on you tube a couple of weeks ago , he just seems to have always been a very driven , family and goal oriented young man. 

 

 Could he have made an error or mistake as a young man , sure it’s possible, but he is innocent for now. He is not on the level of Watson with serial offenses as the worst case scenario.  His attorney seems very certain of his client so I am willing to hold off any judgement, esp since saying they have witnesses testimony saying she was aware and not intoxicated.   If some hard evidence like video or positive dna / etc shows up , the it’s a different story.  This is one solitary case , so it should be easy to eventually be proven one way or the other. Also with other co defendants , someone will talk for a deal if it did occur to save themselves.  Again , not a solo spree like Watson and three guys being involved should make it easier to find inconsistent facts or stories if this actusllly happened.
 

For now, let’s let the process work out and he doesn’t deserve judgement at this point.  If Watson deserves a second chance , certainly a young man like this also deserves to accept responsibility and a chance for redemption if this is proven. The truth will eventually come out , so currently he deserves his presumption of innocence as you would demand if he was your own son or family.  If there was very solid , proven documentation , it s hard to believe nothing was filed until now. Remember how the Duke Guys lives were ruined and later vindicated when it looked so obvious they were guilty?  His attorney said she was not alone and It seems illogical she was there without friends.  So personally I am willing to let it play out as we let the civil process move forward.   Stop the hate speech about how “ we don’t tolerate this in Buffalo unlike Cleveland “. Many on here have supported MARSHAWN to this day and he has been proven to commit actions placing lives at risk in more than one situation!  This is an initial episode , and it’s still very cloudy and he deserves the benefit of the doubt at this point. People on here still talk about wanting to bring in the sociopath Antonio Brown , so let’s temper the pitch fork mentality for the time being. 

There are many examples  of people using the legal system as their lottery as we were inundated daily with attorney advertisements encouraging suing for almost anything. Time to trust our good Gm Beane and staff to solve this within the appropriate legal channels and all we ever hear on here is how much people “ TRUST IN Beane” regarding the type of players he brings in and culture he has established.  I believe Beane / Mcd evaluate character heavily and I trust their process as it’s proven reliable so far.  This is the American system of justice and he deserves his side to be heard and then let the burden of proof fall as it may. Amber Heard is just one example of the me too movement being placed above actual reality and being misused , and so I chose to support him until proven otherwise, especially since he has been an upstanding young man with a supportive family his entire life.  If he somehow faltered , he is so young he deserves help and a shot at redemption if he accepts responsibility ( unlike Watson who still says he did no wrong and continues to lack personal insight , yet he will be playing I the NFL later this year ! )  Prayers  for both the young woman and for our punter that they both move on in life and I hope heal with time, and the legal system resolves this fairly resulting in both learning, surviving , and going on to lead productive lives.   

[Einstein]

1 minute ago, Buffaloflash said:

If that is the case, then I'm not ignorant,  you parents are ignorant! 

 

I find it gross that i’m sharing a forum with you. Where is Simon to take our the trash?

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Do you mean typically in California? In New York, the legal age for consensual sex with an adult is 17.

 

Here in Georgia....it's 16.

[ExiledInIllinois]

12 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

Welcome to the NFL where winning and the almighty dollar is king.

Hate to sound cynical, but you'd think that the plaintiff would want Araiza to work.  Again,  it's a civil complaint that seeks money.  She can't be made whole with him cut and working @ Wendy's... Now, if she wants to see him in jail, that's a whole 'nother story... But even then people seek monetary damages in the civil trial.  I take he doesn't have much unless he kicks?

Edited August 26, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[muppy]

39 minutes ago, DrBob806 said:

Gang rape vs a creep on a massage table. 

Both are bad, rape is much worse.

I understand your point. But those masseuse women were also traumatized by a predatory individual like watson.  The law can differentiate between the offenses and judge accordingly the level of offense the law decides .  I don't want to be graphic up in here. All I'm saying is having some rando "creep" on a massage table would be for me Very traumatic.  

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

RE: statutory rape - good luck proving he knew she was 17.  If she told him she was 18 its basically not a crime anymore.  A little icky, but not a crime.

 

I'm much more concerned over ya know... the actual rape, whether he possibly drugged her, all the other horrifying stuff here.  

[Mango]

20 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

Was Matt involved in that is the question.......   ANd if he was not involved in that and like the defense lawyer said he has plenty of witnesses that say the girl was telling everyone she was in college.

Let the real facts come out here.

If Matt is guilty then he will pay, but the only thing Matt is guilty of right now is not checking her ID

More often than not your bolded is not remotely true in cases of sexual assault. 
 

I’m not concerned with the statutory case. The concern is that he is listed as the one who gave her a roofied drink, dropped her off in the room, and may have been part of a brutal gang rape. 
 

I am even concerned that he had the wherewithal to bring her to the room if he was “”doing the right thing”. He just banged her in the yard. She’s too drunk to give consent. 
 

The least of my concerns are the floating possibility of a statutory charge.

 

He also knowingly gave her chlamydia. Get this guy out of my city and off my football team. 
 

[bobobonators]

19 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

I was in a frat at Oklahoma State and we didn't ask for ID's. When you're 19 and the girl is 17... I mean, come on. 

 

Hell, I'm engaged to a girl who is 29 right now (I'm 47). That's a considerable age difference. A 17 year old Senior in HS compared to a 18 or even 21 year old college student, you can't tell. 

 

I get that. But the fact remains she was 17. And the accusation remains one of rape. So there’s nothing consensual anyway you slice it. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

He didn't make waves during the draft because he didn't want to lose his chance at a nice payday.

 

Let's see what evidence comes out and if criminal charges are filed 

Araiza did not make the roster yet. He received his signing bonus after signing in May. 

[The Red King]

Right now it is an accusation.  It sounds like the Bills did their homework, which puts my mind a bit more at ease.

 

The timing doesn't sit right with me.  Think about it, what are the odds of this all coming up less then a week after Arazia is named the starter?  Almost as if they were waiting to make sure he had a nice chunk of change they could squeeze out of him before proceeding.  I'm *not* saying it didn't happen, we obviously don't know.  Just, given timing, this feels like it might be a money grab.

 

Don't get me wrong, if this did happen it is horrible and I won't defend an ounce of it.  Just...let's see how it plays out.  Anyone can accuse anyone of anything.  Didn't Von Miller get his case thrown out earlier?  Something about this feels off.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

17 minutes ago, extrahammer said:

 

"This bush league t.v. appearance by media hungry lawyer hurt his client".  Does this guy even read what he types?!  The guy is tweeting his entire case out and accusing others of bush league, media hungry tactics.  It is shocking how incompetent this moron is making himself look.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

So he was quiet until Araiza was given the job officially, and then decides to go nuclear on Twitter with nonstop unprofessional actions?  Not the greatest timeline there.

 

He, at least, had time to clean up his following list of OnlyFans girls and pornstars before making his name off this..

 

He didn’t  make the final roster yet. Araiza signed his deal almost 4 months ago.

Edited August 26, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

So he was quiet until Araiza was given the job officially, and then decides to go nuclear on Twitter with nonstop unprofessional actions?  Not the greatest timeline there.

 

He, at least, had time to clean up his following list of OnlyFans girls and pornstars before making his name off this..

 

 

I mean.... if he ruined her life, its only fair?

[KDIGGZ]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

She wants her rape kit results. She wants information on the criminal investigation. She claims no one is cooperating with her. She’s the victim. It’s been almost a year. Imagine.

Ok so that sounds like a police thing so why is the lawyer posting text messages between him and a 21 yr old kid telling him he's a rapist and to lawyer up and then making fun of his lawyer? He's really doing this girl a disservice if she has a case. He looks like a complete nut job. I've never seen this before where a lawyer goes on a Twitter attack like this. He's really making them look bad