Spiderweb Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/7/2022 at 3:05 AM, TheWeatherMan said: Terrell Owens played well for the Bills for his one and only year. His career dropped off with the Bengals. ? He had 70 catches give or take when he played for the Bengals. Then .. he faded away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 11 hours ago, RyanC883 said: i think he means pre captain checkdown days, post nasty hit in AZ game I think it was His career high in TDs was 11. He was terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/7/2022 at 12:28 AM, JohnNord said: With news of the recent retirement of Kiko Alonso, some Bills fans on Twitter have named him the best “one year wonder” in Bills history. Who are some other players that come to mind who had really one great year and then a middling to below average career? A few come to mind: 1. Karlos Williams - He had a monster 2015 season averaging almost 6 YPC and scoring 7 TD’s, despite missing 6 games and playing behind Shady. He also was decent in the pass game. He seemed to be the perfect back and should’ve had a big career. But his attitude and failure to stay in shape forced him out of the NFL and he never played again. Tremendous waste of potential. 2. Peerless Price - he went from being a steady WR2 to exploding in 2002 with career highs in receptions, yards, and touchdowns. Donahoe traded Price as a RFA and he continued to be steady but unspectacular WR he was prior to 2002. 3. Terry Miller - Rushed for 1060 yards his rookie season in 1978. He rushed for less than half that during the remainder of his career. Out of the NFL 3 years after his rookie standout season. 4. Robert Foster - Became one of Josh Allen’s favorite targets and established himself as a bonfide deep threat with over 500 yards and 20 yard avg in just 11 games. But he sunk on the depth chart and was out of the league 3 years later. 5. CJ Spiller - high draft pick that had a middling career until his 2012 breakout season where he rushed for over 1,200 yards. He had a decent year in 2013 but his production dropped quickly after and he was out of the NFL by 2017. My #1 was Karlos as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: His career high in TDs was 11. He was terrible 1. He played on Dick Jauron teams, so that's not suprising. 2. He was not always terrible, and even in an injury-shortened rookie year was named to the All Rookie Team. 1 minute ago, Kaenon said: My #1 was Karlos as well same. He was unstoppable. I thought we had AP or something, then boom, fell off the earth. Meanwhile, his brother (Vince Williams) had a decent career as a LB in PGH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 23 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Great thread Its Karlos Williams for me. His rookie year was not as good as Terry Miller's but his flame out was far more spectacular. Just read a little more about Miller. He finished 2nd in Heisman voting to Earl Campbell and this past January was elected into college football hall of fame. Miller was indeed a stud in college. When teams in the then Big 8 actually played defense, he had good games vs Nebraska, Oklahoma and Missouri. When his career ended, he had the 4th most rushing yards in NCAA history. It was the end of the OJ era and he was traded to the 49ers that year. I wanted the BiIls to draft Miller as the heir apparent to OJ, (OJ lite). And they did. And...he failed. I can still remember an older cousin coming to visit after being away at college and asking, "How's the new guy Miller doing?" My dad and I both said, "He's not exactly setting the world on fire." Yeah, he had 1000 yards his rookie year, but fully 1/3 of those yards came in 2 late season games against 2 of the worst run D teams that year. There was a reason they drafted Cribbs in the 2nd round in 1980 and a reason Cribbs took over from the get go. History would be repeated a few years later when TT was drafted in the second...and took over the running duties from former 1st round pick Ronnie Harmon. Miller was more of a No Year Wonder than a One Year Wonder. I think he was more worried about his banking career than his football career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 24 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: 1. He played on Dick Jauron teams, so that's not suprising. 2. He was not always terrible, and even in an injury-shortened rookie year was named to the All Rookie Team. All rookie team? In 2007 these were the QBs drafted before Trent Jamarcus Russel Brady Quinn Kevin Kolb John Beck Drew Stanton None of them played! Context matters. Trent was a terrible QB that was played by a terrible HC. And the argument that he worse after his concussion just means he was weak mentally. Dude never had it and was talked up by a desperate fan base for showing some poise in his first drive against the hated patriots* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 In some ways you can add Jerry Hughes to this list. In fact he was somewhat of a '2 year wonder' under Doug Marrone/Pettine/Schwartz totaling 20 total sacks his first 2 years here after we traded for him in 2013-2014. But from rest of his time here (7 seasons 2015 - 2021) he had only 32 total sacks and why it was long overdue to move on from him despite the misleading 'pressure rate' stats that have been thrown out there in his defense. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: In some ways you can add Jerry Hughes to this list. In fact he was somewhat of a '2 year wonder' under Doug Marrone/Pettine/Schwartz totaling 20 total sacks his first 2 years here after we traded for him in 2013-2014. But from rest of his time here (7 seasons 2015 - 2021) he had only 32 total sacks and why it was long overdue to move on from him despite the misleading 'pressure rate' stats that have been thrown out there in his defense. As bad as you are on here, somehow you're 10x worse on Twitter. Do you get off on being wrong? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Carl Byrum. Big, bruising FB that opened holes for the Bills RBs in the mid to late 80s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/7/2022 at 4:07 AM, freddyjj said: Marlin "the magician" Briscoe RIP. In 1970, with a rookie QB (Dennis Shaw) Marlin had 57 catches for over 1000 yards and 8 TDs. Marlin made his only Pro Bowl that year. Bills went 3-10-1 that year under John Rauch. The first person that came to mind when I read the title was Dennis Shaw. Not that he was so wonderful but IMO Briscoe made him the Rookie of the Year. I swear half his passes were jump balls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 8/7/2022 at 8:59 AM, 78thealltimegreat said: JP Losman… actually had over 3000 yards passing one year then went down faster then Zach Wilson on Stiflers Mom to be fair vince wilfork ended his career prematurely with a cheap shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Larry Kinnebrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: In some ways you can add Jerry Hughes to this list. In fact he was somewhat of a '2 year wonder' under Doug Marrone/Pettine/Schwartz totaling 20 total sacks his first 2 years here after we traded for him in 2013-2014. But from rest of his time here (7 seasons 2015 - 2021) he had only 32 total sacks and why it was long overdue to move on from him despite the misleading 'pressure rate' stats that have been thrown out there in his defense. I sort of agree in that I do think we held on to Jerry a year or two too long. But he was not a two year wonder even if those were the years his sack numbers pop. The pressure stat is not misleading. There were times when Jerry was the only guy getting any rush for us. He had a down year in 2015 but then 2016-2018 he played really well for us. The last two years, fair enough I think we held on too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 hours ago, CookieG said: Miller was indeed a stud in college. When teams in the then Big 8 actually played defense, he had good games vs Nebraska, Oklahoma and Missouri. When his career ended, he had the 4th most rushing yards in NCAA history. It was the end of the OJ era and he was traded to the 49ers that year. I wanted the BiIls to draft Miller as the heir apparent to OJ, (OJ lite). And they did. And...he failed. I can still remember an older cousin coming to visit after being away at college and asking, "How's the new guy Miller doing?" My dad and I both said, "He's not exactly setting the world on fire." Yeah, he had 1000 yards his rookie year, but fully 1/3 of those yards came in 2 late season games against 2 of the worst run D teams that year. There was a reason they drafted Cribbs in the 2nd round in 1980 and a reason Cribbs took over from the get go. History would be repeated a few years later when TT was drafted in the second...and took over the running duties from former 1st round pick Ronnie Harmon. Miller was more of a No Year Wonder than a One Year Wonder. I think he was more worried about his banking career than his football career. Thanks for the info. I read a toe injury set him back his second year, but sounds like even year 1 was not that good. I loved Cribbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Cookie Gilchrest. Only averaged over 5 yards/attempt once. Christ, Singletary does that every year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Trent was a terrible QB that was played by a terrible HC. And the argument that he worse after his concussion just means he was weak mentally. Dude never had it and was talked up by a desperate fan base for showing some poise in his first drive against the hated patriots* Yeah, Trent was more of a one-drive wonder. At best, a one-game wonder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Thad Lewis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: One I'd add to the list is D'Norris Searcy. Draftee in the 4th round, he played a limited role in his first three years in Buffalo before replacing Jairus Byrd in the lineup as a starter in 2014, had a good year with 3 picks and parlayed that into a nice free agent contract $6m AAV back in 2015 (in terms of cash commitment that year at the safety position the deal out him 4th in the NFL) with Tennessee after the season. He struggled as a starter his first two years there, then had a year as a backup and two games in Carolina and then was done in the league. A one year "wonder" may stretch the point but he was a very good starter for 1 year of his career basically and that was 2014. He was a below average starter or a backup for the remainder. Very interesting choice. Searcy actually won us a couple of games that season, and this is saying something. Very few players actually stepped up and made game winning plays for us back then. He seemed to be a very smart and clutch player. I really expected him to be a coach down the road, whereas he always seemed tro be in the right spot to make plays. Of course, it was pointed out to me by a poster on this board that he was in a good spot to make plays because our system called for this and sadly, he was right. He also said that most of Byrd's interceptions were due to lucky bounces, and he was right about that as well. Again, those were tough times for Bills fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 John DiGiorgio and Angelo Crowell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, jletha said: Thad Lewis. A one game wonder. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: A one game wonder. I still wax poetically about that ball he threw when he stepped out and got SMOKED vs the Dolphins. One of the best throws a Bills QB made until Josh put on a uni. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Karlos Williams for sure. Couldn’t walk away from the ganga or the all you can eat buffet. Terrible decisions on his part. He could’ve really made an impact if he had commitment. Instead his lazy ass is probably parking cars now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Matt Barkley was a one game wonder. Got him a few more jobs and back here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section27 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 hesportsdaily.com/news/roger-kochman-the-buffalo-bills-worst-injury-most-forgotten-player-and-ground-zero-hero/ This guy had a great start. Looked like a star in the making. Football career cut way to short with a terrible knee injury. But he became a star in his second career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Brandon Spoon #58 - MLB - from North Carolina Started 14 games at MLB in 2001 (3-13) with 65 tackles, 7 TFL, 2 ints, both returned for TDs. Played in the the Julius Peppers bowl and intercepted Chris Weinke in the 3rd QTR for a TD. The Panthers went into the draft and selected Julius Peppers, we drated a RT at #4 https://theathletic.com/1720848/2020/04/07/brandon-spoon-the-rookie-spectacle-and-the-bills-career-that-could-have-been/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 It’s karlos Williams for me , I really thought he was going to be good next year. Then you get cut by Rex for being out of shape. 🫢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Darick Holmes could never reproduce the success he had as a rookie, I still remember him scorching the Colts and thought we had a successor to Thurman but nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Karlos is the easiest answer but I'll go with a different RB. CJ Spiller. Had a big year his 3rd season and then nothing after that and out of the league shortly after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/8/2022 at 12:15 PM, GunnerBill said: I sort of agree in that I do think we held on to Jerry a year or two too long. But he was not a two year wonder even if those were the years his sack numbers pop. The pressure stat is not misleading. There were times when Jerry was the only guy getting any rush for us. He had a down year in 2015 but then 2016-2018 he played really well for us. The last two years, fair enough I think we held on too long. Not saying he was terrible after those first two years, but it's no coincidence his most productive years here were playing opposite Mario Williams and in an attacking style scheme under Pettine/Schartz. At the end of the day he's always really been a very good #2 DE/borderline #1DE but never a true game changer and why we certainly should have pulled the trigger on releasing him sooner. There's rumblings out of houston that he may not even make their final roster which says a lot but is not necessarily surprising since he's at the end of the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcdermott Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 On 8/8/2022 at 11:15 AM, CookieG said: Miller was indeed a stud in college. When teams in the then Big 8 actually played defense, he had good games vs Nebraska, Oklahoma and Missouri. When his career ended, he had the 4th most rushing yards in NCAA history. It was the end of the OJ era and he was traded to the 49ers that year. I wanted the BiIls to draft Miller as the heir apparent to OJ, (OJ lite). And they did. And...he failed. I can still remember an older cousin coming to visit after being away at college and asking, "How's the new guy Miller doing?" My dad and I both said, "He's not exactly setting the world on fire." Yeah, he had 1000 yards his rookie year, but fully 1/3 of those yards came in 2 late season games against 2 of the worst run D teams that year. There was a reason they drafted Cribbs in the 2nd round in 1980 and a reason Cribbs took over from the get go. History would be repeated a few years later when TT was drafted in the second...and took over the running duties from former 1st round pick Ronnie Harmon. Miller was more of a No Year Wonder than a One Year Wonder. I think he was more worried about his banking career than his football career. Agree with most of it but I believe you are referencing Greg Bell with the quip about the banking career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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